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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    Target: Adam_Scaled
    Distance: 4.1380% / 0.04138046
    82.4 NorthAfrica
    17.6 SouthWest_Europe


    For me mozabites are not a good reference, Moroccan_North is I think the best reference for me.
    Algerian average use to be quite strange also(at least Algerian Berber in datasheet is), maybe Moroccan+Tunisian would have been enough for you or the Berber average I made times ago:

    Berber=MAR_ERR,+MAR_TIZ,+Tunisia_Chen,+Tunisia_Sen

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    Berber,-0.06548320,0.13410613,-0.00816420,-0.07538218,0.02581348,-0.03472953,-0.02944445,0.00831648,0.06752790,0.02796198,0.00707855,-0.00796418,0.02308645,-0.01552258,0.01677808,-0.01294335,-0.00285148,-0.02166338,-0.04415378,0.01019313,-0.01565483,-0.03933808,0.02467100,-0.00293920,0.00493865


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    Target:
    Distance: 1.5600% / 0.01559951
    39.0 NorthWest_Europe
    33.4 SouthEast_Europe
    27.6 NorthEast_Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Algerian average use to be quite strange also(at least Algerian Berber in datasheet is), maybe Moroccan+Tunisian would have been enough for you or the Berber average I made times ago:

    Berber=MAR_ERR,+MAR_TIZ,+Tunisia_Chen,+Tunisia_Sen

    Code:
    Berber,-0.06548320,0.13410613,-0.00816420,-0.07538218,0.02581348,-0.03472953,-0.02944445,0.00831648,0.06752790,0.02796198,0.00707855,-0.00796418,0.02308645,-0.01552258,0.01677808,-0.01294335,-0.00285148,-0.02166338,-0.04415378,0.01019313,-0.01565483,-0.03933808,0.02467100,-0.00293920,0.00493865
    This one is better:

    Target: Adam_Scaled
    Distance: 2.6646% / 0.02664557
    80.6 NorthAfrica
    10.2 SouthEast_Europe
    9.2 SouthWest_Europe

    But MAR_ERR and TIZ are southern Moroccan samples, some of them are heavily SSA.

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    Target: cpalscaled
    Distance: 2.9939% / 0.02993914
    55.4 NorthWest_Europe
    22.4 SouthEast_Europe
    19.6 NorthEast_Europe
    2.6 SouthWest_Europe

    Distance to: cpalscaled
    0.04382651 NorthWest_Europe
    0.06624281 NorthEast_Europe
    0.07289130 SouthWest_Europe
    0.09034920 SouthEast_Europe

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    Adding a Northern African reference:

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 2.2253% / 0.02225309
    65.4 SouthWest_Europe
    15.2 SouthEast_Europe
    8.6 NorthAfrica
    7.6 Amerindian
    3.0 SSA
    0.2 NorthWest_Europe

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 2.4083% / 0.02408311 | ADC: 0.25x
    68.6 SouthWest_Europe
    12.4 SouthEast_Europe
    10.4 NorthAfrica
    6.8 Amerindian
    1.8 SSA

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 3.5943% / 0.03594322 | ADC: 0.5x
    76.0 SouthWest_Europe
    12.2 NorthAfrica
    7.2 SouthEast_Europe
    4.6 Amerindian

    Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    0.07180823 SouthWest_Europe
    0.08671800 SouthEast_Europe
    0.11169428 NorthWest_Europe
    0.13240506 NorthEast_Europe
    0.18250690 NorthAfrica
    0.57103004 Amerindian
    0.70151842 SSA:B

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    This one is better:

    Target: Adam_Scaled
    Distance: 2.6646% / 0.02664557
    80.6 NorthAfrica
    10.2 SouthEast_Europe
    9.2 SouthWest_Europe

    But MAR_ERR and TIZ are southern Moroccan samples, some of them are heavily SSA.
    And Tunisia samples have usually many European input (same than moroccan North), so they compensate between them.

    You can always suggest me a new average when you want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    And adding those 2?

    Arabian,=Saudi,+(Yemenite_Al_Jawf,+Yemenite_Mahra, )
    Levantine=(Levant_Yehud_IBA,+Levant_Ashkelon_IA1,) +Palestinian_Beit_Sahour

    Code:
    NorthAfrica,-0.0673137,0.1314590,-0.0116907,-0.0712517,0.0206577,-0.0312307,-0.0239980,0.0074100,0.0542707,0.0230963,0.0068190,-0.0077440,0.0248620,-0.0128367,0.0141237,-0.0078340,-0.0032800,-0.0154520,-0.0330237,0.0072563,-0.0099777,-0.0268773,0.0190723,-0.0015783,0.0024743
    NorthWest_Europe,0.1325593,0.1337507,0.0638800,0.0508907,0.0394997,0.0199777,0.0031217,0.0057113,0.0037393,-0.0007613,-0.0054230,0.0055750,-0.0099407,-0.0108430,0.0222443,0.0036457,-0.0109377,0.0022727,0.0024637,0.0005757,0.0058040,0.0025773,0.0010957,0.0142847,0.0009677
    NorthEast_Europe,0.1310153,0.1214563,0.0711987,0.0603063,0.0356400,0.0220150,0.0089957,0.0116723,-0.0034180,-0.0234717,-0.0007067,-0.0075860,0.0157850,0.0231097,-0.0123050,-0.0018747,0.0027710,-0.0005210,0.0028207,0.0022073,-0.0037993,-0.0040860,0.0049800,-0.0048143,-0.0007887
    SouthWest_Europe,0.1127253,0.1464038,0.0406260,-0.0010165,0.0449500,-0.0025714,-0.0027779,0.0015101,0.0246433,0.0325341,-0.0026677,0.0075804,-0.0142454,-0.0123391,0.0108006,-0.0001258,-0.0041015,-0.0006735,-0.0030864,-0.0014932,0.0036968,-0.0019572,-0.0022307,-0.0031847,0.0014280
    SouthEast_Europe,0.1168672,0.1439147,0.0075187,-0.0235787,0.0165243,-0.0061066,0.0025563,0.0000703,-0.0000882,0.0123834,0.0017905,0.0018742,-0.0016914,0.0064181,-0.0128488,-0.0009988,0.0065265,0.0002924,0.0041233,-0.0039529,-0.0074012,0.0008815,0.0023408,0.0002892,-0.0016262
    
    
    Arabian,0.05059585,0.13995270,-0.06513990,-0.11723870,-0.00940130,-0.04997380,-0.01229238,-0.00808298,0.05608075,-0.00410653,0.01556333,-0.03192903,0.06243548,0.00350273,0.00455410,0.02525745,-0.02140830,0.00386218,0.00015448,0.02687405,0.01263658,0.01614353,-0.00905183,0.00697205,-0.00832413
    Levantine,0.08970675,0.15220263,-0.04970895,-0.08630155,-0.00821318,-0.02909195,-0.00308430,-0.00400938,0.01374138,0.01814400,0.00735825,-0.00407470,0.00702445,0.00651988,-0.00855050,0.00501358,-0.00108388,0.00259705,0.00276545,0.00053945,-0.00321313,0.00803751,0.00093205,0.00186763,0.00126450
    Target: Xabier_scaled
    Distance: 2.5481% / 0.02548054

    70.6 SouthWest_Europe
    18.4 NorthWest_Europe
    9.6 SouthEast_Europe
    1.4 NorthAfrica

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    And Tunisia samples have usually many European input (same than moroccan North), so they compensate between them.

    You can always suggest me a new average when you want.
    Could you make an average with these samples:

    Berber_Zenatan,-0.01935,0.138112,-0.001131,-0.069445,0.026159,-0.04016,-0.027026,0.003692,0.065243,0.021504,0.001949,-0.010641,0.021556,-0.014038,0.016829,-0.011668,0.004694,-0.02027,-0.04148,0.007879,-0.010731,-0.037838,0.021322,-0.011809,0.005029
    Moroccan_North:MNA1,-0.020488,0.131003,0.002263,-0.070737,0.02462,-0.034582,-0.025851,-0.003923,0.06238,0.027518,0.003085,-0.008992,0.023191,-0.007707,0.009093,-0.016176,0.00339,-0.019763,-0.04412,0.007879,-0.009358,-0.032397,0.017871,-0.001325,-0.000479
    Mozabite:HGDP01263,-0.027318,0.137096,-0.004525,-0.071706,0.029236,-0.033188,-0.024441,0.011076,0.062789,0.032802,0.004547,-0.006444,0.015461,-0.01734,0.012893,-0.012596,0.004042,-0.01837,-0.043492,0.011631,-0.015098,-0.035859,0.021322,-0.001807,0.006107
    Berber_ALG_Chaoui,-0.025041,0.145221,-0.011314,-0.072675,0.033852,-0.032351,-0.028436,0.002308,0.06422,0.0277,0.004222,-0.003447,0.014866,-0.016928,0.014251,-0.010209,0.004042,-0.01989,-0.041857,0.004877,-0.009608,-0.0413,0.025266,0.003253,0.006945

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    Could you make an average with these samples:
    Ok, but take into account that we must make valid references for all Moroccans, not only references that fit you well, because maybe tomorrow will come new Moroccan members and this reference is not valid for them.

    Anyway in future models with many references, I can add also this reference and others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Ok, but take into account that we must make valid references for all Moroccans, not only references that fit you well, because maybe tomorrow will come new Moroccan members and this reference is not valid for them.

    Anyway in future models with many references, I can add also this reference and others.
    Haha I understand, these references are probably a bit biased. How do you make average samples btw?

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