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    Distance to: Hapanuwa_scaled
    0.07023628 Italian_Campania:ITS2
    0.07573868 Italian_Campania:NaN77FAM
    0.07660658 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew6
    0.07688388 Italian_BasilicataG24
    0.07838703 Italian_BasilicataG25
    0.07872404 Italian_BasilicataG16
    0.07879654 Italian_Abruzzo:Alp162
    0.07880748 Italian_Calabria:ALP582
    0.07904501 Italian_Campania:CMP_b001_2
    0.07939204 Italian_BasilicataG18
    0.07958685 Italian_MoliseG27
    0.08032860 Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo19
    0.08060226 Italian_Apulia:GS32
    0.08071857 Italian_BasilicataG21
    0.08078326 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew1
    0.08091702 Italian_Campania:NaN58AC
    0.08091804 Italian_Campania:NaN275IS
    0.08148022 Italian_Campania:NaN289RM
    0.08150170 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew7
    0.08201697 Italian_Apuliau8
    0.08241133 Italian_Campania:CMP_b009_2
    0.08243322 Sicilian_East:EastSicilian8H
    0.08246499 Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo22
    0.08255616 Italian_Campania:NaN119AMR
    0.08305219 Italian_Campania:NaN293SF

    Target: Hapanuwa_scaled
    Distance: 6.9937% / 0.06993694
    86.6 Italian_Campania
    13.4 Italian_Jew

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    Distance to: Fran
    0.02703346 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.03214885 Italian_Veneto
    0.03284366 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.03348625 Italian_Bergamo
    0.03383709 Italian_Tuscany
    0.03433968 Italian_Piedmont
    0.03452472 Italian_Umbria
    0.03650893 Italian_Lombardy
    0.03657788 Italian_Northeast
    0.03748444 Italian_Lazio
    0.03845337 Italian_Marche
    0.04029355 Italian_Liguria
    0.04076019 Italian_Abruzzo
    0.04144370 Italian_Molise
    0.04295044 Italian_Campania
    0.04319672 Italian_Basilicata
    0.04405442 Italian_Apulia
    0.04499189 Italian_Calabria
    0.04767948 Italian_Jew
    0.16928908 Sicilian_West
    0.17499305 Sicilian_East
    0.21873630 Sardinian

    Target: Fran
    Distance: 0.0266% / 0.02663607
    98.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    2.0 Sardinian

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    Distanceto:scaled
    0.03417935 Italian_UmbriaG04
    0.03518491Italian_Piedmontiedmont154
    0.03643540Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo19
    0.03776449 Italian_Marche:MarADC050D
    0.03783281Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo15
    0.03812308Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo16
    0.03862718 Italian_Marche:MarACV100D
    0.03877259 Italian_BasilicataG21
    0.03920543 Italian_Marche:MarACW080D
    0.03943877 Sicilian_West:WestSicilian10H
    0.03952803Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo20
    0.03966863 Italian_Tuscany:NA20508
    0.04028028 Italian_Marche:MarACO100D
    0.04039279Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont145
    0.04041538 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany54
    0.04053628 Italian_Tuscany:Tuscany74
    0.04069737 Italian_MoliseG27
    0.04112241 Italian_Abruzzo:Alp162
    0.04141059 Italian_Lazio:NOR28
    0.04142550 Italian_Marche:MarABU050D
    0.04155777 Italian_Marche:MarACY030D
    0.04167683 Italian_UmbriaG03
    0.04170574 Italian_UmbriaG08
    0.04232229 Italian_Piedmontiedmont61
    0.04237639Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP200

    Target: scaled
    Distance: 2.0620% / 0.02062025
    43.4 Italian_Northeast
    27.6 Italian_Basilicata
    21.6 Italian_Jew
    7.4 Italian_Campania

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    0.02840369 Italian_Northeast:KF2700960
    0.03416885 Italian_Northeast:ALP435
    0.03467542 Italian_Northeast:ALP093
    0.03540932 Italian_Northeast:ALP233
    0.03596005 Italian_Northeast:ALP346
    0.03806017 Italian_Northeast:KF1803129
    0.03823873 Italian_Northeast:KF1800761
    0.03973111 Italian_Veneto:ALP249
    0.04034960 Italian_Veneto:ALP273
    0.04118773 Italian_Veneto:ALP322
    0.04244986Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP420
    0.04268482 Italian_Northeast:ALP506
    0.04312149 Italian_Northeast:KF2700922
    0.04328611 Italian_Veneto:ALP022
    0.04345202Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont127
    0.04397522 Italian_Veneto:ALP250
    0.04427632Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP070
    0.04485927 Italian_Northeast:ALP280
    0.04556054Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont136
    0.04559815 Italian_Liguria:ALP099
    0.04621833Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP200
    0.04667806 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta18
    0.04688028 Italian_Piedmontiedmont61
    0.04689342 Italian_Veneto:ALP378
    0.04702309 Italian_Lombardy:ALP288

    Target: Father_scaled
    Distance: 2.4964% / 0.02496361
    85.0 Italian_Northeast
    10.4 Italian_Abruzzo
    4.6 Italian_Basilicata

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    Target: JerryS._scaled
    Distance: 4.0145% / 0.04014549
    72.2 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    27.8 Italian_Northeast


    Target: JerryS._scaled
    Distance: 4.2902% / 0.04290157
    86.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    14.0 Italian_Northeast


    not a good fit but fun to play with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Italians and non Italians. Just for fun. SCALED


    Bigger distances than in my other thread with unscaled coordinates. Definitively, now I see why they say that unscaled coordinates are better for modern populations than scaled coordinates.
    please explain this for me. I thought scaled Source populations HAD to be used with scaled target G25 data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    Distance to: Fran
    0.02703346 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.03214885 Italian_Veneto
    0.03284366 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.03348625 Italian_Bergamo
    0.03383709 Italian_Tuscany
    0.03433968 Italian_Piedmont
    0.03452472 Italian_Umbria
    0.03650893 Italian_Lombardy
    0.03657788 Italian_Northeast
    0.03748444 Italian_Lazio
    0.03845337 Italian_Marche
    0.04029355 Italian_Liguria
    0.04076019 Italian_Abruzzo
    0.04144370 Italian_Molise
    0.04295044 Italian_Campania
    0.04319672 Italian_Basilicata
    0.04405442 Italian_Apulia
    0.04499189 Italian_Calabria
    0.04767948 Italian_Jew
    0.16928908 Sicilian_West
    0.17499305 Sicilian_East
    0.21873630 Sardinian

    Target: Fran
    Distance: 0.0266% / 0.02663607
    98.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    2.0 Sardinian
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    please explain this for me. I thought scaled Source populations HAD to be used with scaled target G25 data.
    Of course that scaled coordinates have to be used with scaled target data.

    What I mean is that when the source population and the target G25 dated are both unscaled, you get better distances.

    This when it goes for modern populations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Of course that scaled coordinates have to be used with scaled target data.

    What I mean is that when the source population and the target G25 dated are both unscaled, you get better distances.

    This when it goes for modern populations.
    then why do so many people making DIY models use scaled source populations if unscaled will produce better results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    These are scaled

    Distance to: Fran_scaled
    0.04502521 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta3
    0.04711386 Italian_Veneto:KF1803151
    0.05027200 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta9
    0.05064658 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta11
    0.05075002 Italian_Veneto:ALP116
    0.05145523 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta14
    0.05203126 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP071
    0.05215571 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta8
    0.05228766 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta4
    0.05250655 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta19
    0.05313768 Italian_Northeast:ALP235
    0.05440827 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta15
    0.05443061 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta10
    0.05493574 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta17
    0.05502721 Italian_Northeast:ALP081
    0.05549489 Italian_Veneto:ALP378
    0.05569358 Italian_Veneto:KF1803105
    0.05592079 Italian_Lombardy:BGD28
    0.05609683 Italian_Veneto:Alp401
    0.05626860 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP114
    0.05668823 Italian_Veneto:ALP250
    0.05687932 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont127
    0.05710002 Italian_Veneto:Alp100
    0.05758573 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta20
    0.05780460 Italian_Trentino-Alto-

    Target: Fran_scaled
    Distance: 0.0393% / 0.03932661
    75.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    17.6 Sardinian
    5.8 Italian_Veneto
    1.6 Italian_Tuscany


    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    Distance to: Fran_scaled
    0.04502521 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta3
    0.04711386 Italian_Veneto:KF1803151
    0.05027200 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta9
    0.05064658 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta11
    0.05075002 Italian_Veneto:ALP116
    0.05145523 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta14
    0.05203126 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP071
    0.05215571 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta8
    0.05228766 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta4
    0.05250655 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta19
    0.05313768 Italian_Northeast:ALP235
    0.05440827 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta15
    0.05443061 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta10
    0.05493574 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta17
    0.05502721 Italian_Northeast:ALP081
    0.05549489 Italian_Veneto:ALP378
    0.05569358 Italian_Veneto:KF1803105
    0.05592079 Italian_Lombardy:BGD28
    0.05609683 Italian_Veneto:Alp401
    0.05626860 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP114
    0.05668823 Italian_Veneto:ALP250
    0.05687932 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont127
    0.05710002 Italian_Veneto:Alp100
    0.05758573 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta20
    0.05780460 Italian_Trentino-Alto-

    Target: Fran_scaled
    Distance: 0.0393% / 0.03932661
    75.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    17.6 Sardinian
    5.8 Italian_Veneto
    1.6 Italian_Tuscany


    Fixed.
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