Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2

Bender1999 · 09-08-2020, 08:53 PM

Yes it seems the person is not typical. Not even for Crimmean Tatars.

**Dr_Maul** · 09-08-2020, 08:54 PM

Armenian with likely recent Assyrian or other Levantine ancestry

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 49.56
2 Gedrosia 16.66
3 Southwest_Asian 15.68
4 Atlantic_Med 12.96
5 North_European 3.49
6 Northwest_African 0.77
7 Southeast_Asian 0.68
8 East_African 0.15
9 East_Asian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 5.7
2 Assyrian (Dodecad) 5.79
3 Armenian (Dodecad) 6.4
4 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 6.41
5 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 7.13
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.65
7 Turks (Behar) 9.38
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 9.48
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 9.81
10 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 10.04
11 Druze (HGDP) 10.57
12 Armenians (Behar) 11.11
13 Cypriots (Behar) 12.45
14 Lebanese (Behar) 12.6
15 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.3
16 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.55
17 Syrians (Behar) 16.41
18 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.44
19 Jordanians (Behar) 18.51
20 Iranians (Behar) 19.07

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 15.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.17
2 86.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 13.8% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.21
3 86.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 13.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.25
4 86% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 14% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.39
5 88.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.3% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.4
6 88.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.43
7 83% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 17% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.52
8 81.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 18.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.54
9 81.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 18.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.56
10 90.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.5% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 1.75
11 91.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.8% Spaniards (Behar) @ 1.88
12 91.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.4% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 1.89
13 90.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.2% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 1.91
14 91.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.5% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 1.91
15 91.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.9% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 1.92
16 85.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 14.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.92
17 80.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 19.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.93
18 91.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.6% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 1.93
19 86.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 13.6% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.95
20 86.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 13.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.96

**Kyp** · 09-08-2020, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Armenian with likely recent Assyrian or other Levantine ancestry

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 49.56
2 Gedrosia 16.66
3 Southwest_Asian 15.68
4 Atlantic_Med 12.96
5 North_European 3.49
6 Northwest_African 0.77
7 Southeast_Asian 0.68
8 East_African 0.15
9 East_Asian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 5.7
2 Assyrian (Dodecad) 5.79
3 Armenian (Dodecad) 6.4
4 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 6.41
5 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 7.13
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.65
7 Turks (Behar) 9.38
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 9.48
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 9.81
10 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 10.04
11 Druze (HGDP) 10.57
12 Armenians (Behar) 11.11
13 Cypriots (Behar) 12.45
14 Lebanese (Behar) 12.6
15 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.3
16 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.55
17 Syrians (Behar) 16.41
18 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.44
19 Jordanians (Behar) 18.51
20 Iranians (Behar) 19.07

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 15.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.17
2 86.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 13.8% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.21
3 86.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 13.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.25
4 86% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 14% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.39
5 88.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.3% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.4
6 88.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.43
7 83% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 17% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.52
8 81.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 18.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.54
9 81.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 18.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.56
10 90.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.5% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 1.75
11 91.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.8% Spaniards (Behar) @ 1.88
12 91.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.4% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 1.89
13 90.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.2% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 1.91
14 91.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.5% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 1.91
15 91.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.9% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 1.92
16 85.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 14.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.92
17 80.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 19.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.93
18 91.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.6% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 1.93
19 86.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 13.6% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.95
20 86.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 13.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.96

What's the indication for Assyrian or Levantine? It looks like regular West Armenian result.

**Leto** · 09-08-2020, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

I believe there are two Nogai subgroups - the Kara Nogais and the Kuban Nogais. The former are more mongoloid, almost like Karakalpaks or Kazakhs whereas the latter are more Caucasian-admixed. That's because in the 17th century Nogais were pushed westwards by the incoming Kalmyks (the time when the Kalmyks came to what is now Kalmykia in Russia).

From the Balanovsky et al study. Pay attention to the two Nogai references (53.7% vs 25.8% "Ulchi")

Spoiler!

**Kyp** · 09-08-2020, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Well, so far they have been barely 10% Mongoloid. I don't think there is much mystery about them. I do believe the average sits approximately at the same level as the data so far has shown. At least for the Republic of Azerbaijan which is the default Azerbaijan for me.

Tebriz is Azerbaijani cultural and symbolic capital

**Dr_Maul** · 09-08-2020, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Kyp

What's the indication for Assyrian or Levantine? It looks like regular West Armenian result.

I thought maybe because of the oracle (also their distance is closer to Assyrian than Armenian) but your probably right

Bender1999 · 09-08-2020, 09:03 PM

Armenian from Yozgat, Muş, Erzurum, Bingöl

Gedrosian: 20.02 Pct
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 11.26 Pct
North_European: 2.60 Pct
South_Asian 0.48 Pct
East_African 0.56 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 16.60 Pct
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 48.43 Pct
Sub-Saharan: 0.06 Pct

**Kyp** · 09-08-2020, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

I thought maybe because of the oracle (also their distance is closer to Assyrian than Armenian) but your probably right

Always check Vahaduo for more clear results:
Here are his distances:

Distance to: Armenian
1.20855285 Armenian_West
4.18772014 Armenian_East
6.17144229 Azerbaijan_Jews
6.45934981 Greek_Pontus
6.60454389 Assyrian
6.89632511 Georgia_Jews
7.40563974 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.53068390 Turk_East
8.31280338 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.57745300 Greek_Cappadocia
9.28906346 Hemshin
9.30458489 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.67217659 Nusayri_Turkey
10.12969397 Iranian_Jews
10.39909131 Turk_Ahiska
10.43228642 Laz
10.68656633 Iraq_Jews
11.34778392 Druze
12.32690553 Zaza
13.08229720 Turk_Central_East
13.08707760 Georgian_Adjara
13.50404754 Cypriots
13.59152677 Turkmen_Iraq
13.62439356 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.66260224 Lebanese

**Dr_Maul** · 09-08-2020, 09:07 PM

Turk from Sivas province

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 40.01
2 Gedrosia 16.38
3 Atlantic_Med 12.59
4 Southwest_Asian 11.69
5 North_European 7.99
6 East_Asian 3.82
7 Siberian 3.21
8 South_Asian 2.76
9 Northwest_African 1.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks (Behar) 6.46
2 Turkish (Dodecad) 7.02
3 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 11.62
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 13.8
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 13.8
6 Iranian (Dodecad) 13.85
7 Lebanese (Behar) 14.77
8 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.37
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.41
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 15.88
11 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 16.24
12 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.24
13 Iranians (Behar) 16.26
14 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 17.02
15 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.08
16 Cypriots (Behar) 17.15
17 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 17.28
18 Druze (HGDP) 17.63
19 Syrians (Behar) 18.03
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 48.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 1.51
2 64% Cypriots (Behar) + 36% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.43
3 89.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 10.2% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.7
4 91.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 8.9% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.7
5 90.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 9.7% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.77
6 90.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 9.9% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3.83
7 88.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 11.2% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.01
8 75.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 24.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.02
9 90% Turkish (Dodecad) + 10% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 4.18
10 88.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 11.5% Pathan (HGDP) @ 4.22
11 90.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 9.3% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 4.37
12 91.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 8.1% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 4.4
13 84.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 15.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.44
14 91.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 8.3% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 4.48
15 91.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 8.1% Indian (Dodecad) @ 4.48
16 57.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 42.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 4.51
17 92.1% Turks (Behar) + 7.9% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 4.51
18 92.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 7.7% Iyengar (Dodecad) @ 4.54
19 74.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 25.5% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.56
20 93.2% Turks (Behar) + 6.8% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 4.56

**Dr_Maul** · 09-08-2020, 09:11 PM

What I now know is a West Armenian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 45.95
2 Gedrosia 19.43
3 Southwest_Asian 15.24
4 Atlantic_Med 12.31
5 North_European 6.02
6 East_Asian 0.9
7 Northwest_African 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 5.91
2 Turks (Behar) 7.87
3 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 8.33
4 Assyrian (Dodecad) 8.55
5 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 8.61
6 Turkish (Dodecad) 8.98
7 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 9.8
8 Armenian (Dodecad) 9.81
9 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 10.48
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 10.8
11 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 11.48
12 Kurd (Dodecad) 11.74
13 Iranian (Dodecad) 12.74
14 Lebanese (Behar) 13.12
15 Druze (HGDP) 13.77
16 Armenians (Behar) 13.98
17 Cypriots (Behar) 15.32
18 Iranians (Behar) 15.37
19 Syrians (Behar) 16.37
20 Jordanians (Behar) 18.91

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 40.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.57
2 88.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.5% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.82
3 88.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.3% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.93
4 88.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.93
5 88.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.4% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.95
6 87.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 12.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.06
7 88.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.5% British (Dodecad) @ 2.06
8 88.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.06
9 88.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.7% English (Dodecad) @ 2.07
10 88.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.08
11 88.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.8% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.1
12 88.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.12
13 88.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.16
14 89.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 10.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.29
15 56.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 43.2% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.46
16 89.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 10.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.48
17 88.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.48
18 87.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 12.3% German (Dodecad) @ 2.54
19 88.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 11.4% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.59
20 88.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 11.4% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.6