South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results - vol.2

[Jana]

Czech match of Slavonian Šokac I tested....actually quite less Slavic than her (and obv more western Euro/German)

Cousin_CZ,33.58,32.99,15.14,5.94,9.53,0,1.61,0.25,0.58,0,0.05,0,0.32

Distance to: Cousin_CZ

3.10808942 Hungarian_Transdanubia
3.27418692 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
3.33135919 Hungarian_Budapest
3.97729861 Hungarian
4.08344218 Croat_Croatia_Central
4.22063976 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
4.33970856 Slovenian
4.37171180 Hungarian_Northern
5.04537154 Hungarian_Alfold
5.11483138 East_German
5.48047443 Austrian
5.69629704 Czech
5.83827029 Croat_Croatia
5.87742653 Slovak
6.24024839 Croat
7.27712168 Croat_Slavonia
7.78182498 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
7.90090649 Hungarian_Transylvania
8.05702178 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
8.51063926 Hungarian_Szekely
8.64363928 Croat_B&H
8.72246525 Moldova_North
8.76015411 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
8.83880648 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
9.14949179 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia

Target: Cousin_CZ
Distance: 1.5572% / 1.55722014 | ADC: 0.25x

38.2 Hungarian_Northern
32.6 East_German
27.0 Hungarian_Transdanubia
2.2 Sardinian

Target: Cousin_CZ
Distance: 2.6940% / 2.69398396

50.2 Early_Slavic
24.6 Early_Germanic
22.8 Paleo-Balkan
2.2 Romanized_Balkan
0.2 Greco-Roman

Original gedmatch run:

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

1 North_Atlantic 33.58
2 Baltic 32.99
3 West_Med 15.14
4 East_Med 9.53
5 West_Asian 5.94
6 South_Asian 1.61
7 Siberian 0.58
8 Sub-Saharan 0.32
9 East_Asian 0.25
10 Oceanian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

1 Hungarian 3.48
2 East_German 4.45
3 Austrian 4.83
4 Croatian 6.69
5 Moldavian 8.89
6 South_Polish 9.63
7 Serbian 10.01
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.88
9 Ukrainian 11.58
10 West_German 12.64
11 Polish 13.26
12 South_Dutch 13.72
13 Romanian 14.25
14 North_German 14.34
15 North_Swedish 14.61
16 Southwest_Finnish 15.57
17 Swedish 15.83
18 Southwest_Russian 15.94
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.38
20 Russian_Smolensk 16.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 71.9% South_Polish + 28.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.47
2 70.1% South_Polish + 29.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.58
3 72.3% South_Polish + 27.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.78
4 73.4% South_Polish + 26.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.79
5 57.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 42.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.96
6 70.4% South_Polish + 29.6% Portuguese @ 2.01
7 73% South_Polish + 27% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.06
8 58.5% Southwest_Russian + 41.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.08
9 72.1% South_Polish + 27.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.08
10 71.3% South_Polish + 28.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.13
11 59.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.2
12 74.6% South_Polish + 25.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.22
13 73.5% Croatian + 26.5% Southeast_English @ 2.26
14 59.1% Ukrainian + 40.9% French @ 2.33
15 70.3% South_Polish + 29.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.35
16 69.6% East_German + 30.4% Moldavian @ 2.4
17 62.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 37.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.42
18 62.6% East_German + 37.4% Croatian @ 2.43
19 59.9% Austrian + 40.1% Croatian @ 2.45
20 72.3% South_Polish + 27.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.54

[Mingle]

CommonSense posted the results of some Bosniak samples before:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6627793

I finally found out which regions they have ancestry from:

Nurovic - Novi Pazar
Becirovic - Tutin
Tutic - Tutin
Elfic - Novi Pazar
Marovac - Novi Pazar
Balkan - Rožaje
Fetic - Bijelo Polje
Memic - Novi Pazar
Mujagic - Sjenica

Kurbegovic - Gornji Vakuf
Softic - Podrinje (B&H)

They said the information could be found here and this is where I got their locations from: https://bosnjackidnk.com/baza-bez-markera/

New K13 average (n=16):

Bosniak_Sandzak,23.93,24.79,19.06,10.47,18.07,1.75,0.20,0.40,0.46,0.55,0.23,0.02,0.06

[Ion Basescul]

Kosovar



# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.97
2 Baltic 19.74
3 West_Med 19.45
4 North_Atlantic 18.56
5 West_Asian 14.76
6 Red_Sea 1.96
7 Amerindian 0.84
8 East_Asian 0.58
9 South_Asian 0.07
10 Siberian 0.07


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.81
2 Bulgarian 6.45
3 Romanian 9.12
4 Central_Greek 10.23
5 Italian_Abruzzo 11.17
6 East_Sicilian 11.95
7 West_Sicilian 13.01
8 Tuscan 13.36
9 Serbian 13.59
10 Ashkenazi 14.01
11 South_Italian 14.72
12 North_Italian 16.47
13 Moldavian 18.65
14 Algerian_Jewish 20.57
15 Italian_Jewish 20.65
16 Sephardic_Jewish 20.72
17 Hungarian 21.73
18 Croatian 21.8
19 Portuguese 24
20 Turkish 24.1


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.3% Bulgarian + 19.7% Cyprian @ 2.06
2 62.4% Bulgarian + 37.6% Central_Greek @ 2.38
3 76.3% Central_Greek + 23.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.62
4 71.2% Bulgarian + 28.8% South_Italian @ 2.7
5 76.3% Central_Greek + 23.7% Southwest_Russian @ 2.78
6 84.3% Bulgarian + 15.7% Assyrian @ 2.82
7 84.8% Bulgarian + 15.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.82
8 74.8% Central_Greek + 25.2% Ukrainian @ 2.84
9 82.5% Bulgarian + 17.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.86
10 74.1% Romanian + 25.9% Cyprian @ 2.86
11 80.2% Central_Greek + 19.8% Lithuanian @ 2.95
12 85.2% Bulgarian + 14.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.97
13 66.9% Bulgarian + 33.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.97
14 65.3% Central_Greek + 34.7% Moldavian @ 2.98
15 84.9% Bulgarian + 15.1% Armenian @ 2.98
16 68.8% South_Italian + 31.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.01
17 84.7% Bulgarian + 15.3% Samaritan @ 3.03
18 77.7% Central_Greek + 22.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.05
19 78% Central_Greek + 22% Estonian_Polish @ 3.11
20 84.9% Bulgarian + 15.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.15

[Jana]

Croat fully from Lika, from place Podlapača on legendary Krbava field (where Croatian Kingdom was defeated by Ottoman Empire) near Udbina.
What is interesting is that this place is Croatian Čakavian enclave (dialect spoken before the Ottomans), which could explain this lady's highly Slavic results.

Podlapača ima za stanovnike starosjedilačke Hrvate čakavske loze

https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podlapa%C4%8Da

Distance to: Croat_Lika_Podlapača

3.80009210 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
4.22996454 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
5.14803846 Moldova_North
5.40021296 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
5.41104426 Croat_Slavonia
5.48501595 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
5.63620440 Croat
5.78443601 Croat_Croatia
5.81612414 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
5.94818460 Croat_B&H
6.23563950 Hungarian_Alfold
6.23723496 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
6.45279009 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
6.56486862 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.75002222 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
6.97159064 Bosniak_Sarajevo
7.34250638 Bosniak
7.42961641 Slovenian
7.60777234 Hungarian
7.65873535 Slovak
7.76459271 Hungarian_Northern
7.78428545 Serb_B&H
8.29729474 Romania_Maramures
8.31400024 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
8.33926256 Serb_B&H_Krajina

Target: Croat_Lika_Podlapača
Distance: 1.9530% / 1.95303884 | ADC: 0.25x

82.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
6.8 Bulgarian_Northwest
6.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
4.2 Sardinian

Original K13 results

Spoiler!

1 Baltic 37.09
2 North_Atlantic 25.35
3 West_Med 16.92
4 East_Med 11.28
5 West_Asian 6.31
6 Red_Sea 1.57
7 Siberian 0.92
8 Sub-Saharan 0.3
9 East_Asian 0.16
10 Northeast_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

1 Croatian 3.84
2 Moldavian 5.11
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.41
4 Hungarian 8.83
5 Ukrainian 9.17
6 South_Polish 9.45
7 Serbian 10.01
8 East_German 12.31
9 Polish 12.4
10 Austrian 12.64
11 Southwest_Russian 12.84
12 Romanian 13.34
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.42
14 Russian_Smolensk 14.31
15 Estonian_Polish 14.57
16 Bulgarian 15.01
17 Belorussian 15.38
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.97
19 Erzya 18.67
20 Southwest_Finnish 18.69

Her results are similar to Croat from Brinje (also in Lika) Commonsense found, but that one was part Slavonian while this one is fully from Lika. Interestingly colonised to Slavonia in 1930s.

[Jana]

Her son, half autochtonous Slavonian Croat (so my guess is his father is Šokac). I2 haplogroup.

Spoiler!

1 Baltic 34.04
2 North_Atlantic 30.12
3 West_Med 14.67
4 East_Med 12.49
5 West_Asian 4.89
6 Siberian 1.69
7 South_Asian 1.16
8 Red_Sea 0.9
9 Oceanian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.61
2 Croatian 5.19
3 Moldavian 6.92
4 Serbian 8.34
5 Austrian 8.47
6 East_German 8.52
7 South_Polish 9.63
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.19
9 Ukrainian 10.88
10 Romanian 12.52
11 Polish 13.32
12 Southwest_Russian 14.69
13 Bulgarian 14.92
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.43
15 West_German 15.82
16 Russian_Smolensk 15.88
17 Estonian_Polish 16.08
18 Belorussian 16.41
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.78
20 South_Dutch 17

Distance to: Croat_Slavonia+Lika

3.19020376 Hungarian_Alfold
3.50907395 Hungarian
3.85952070 Croat_Croatia
3.92988549 Slovenian
3.93118303 Croat
4.26973067 Hungarian_Budapest
4.29920923 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
4.40791334 Hungarian_Northern
4.42997743 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
4.46815398 Hungarian_Transdanubia
4.59795607 Croat_Slavonia
4.92902627 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
5.05794425 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
5.56115995 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
5.79466996 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
5.94897470 Croat_B&H
6.09366064 Moldova_North
6.14035675 Slovak
6.16541158 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
6.23636914 Hungarian_Transylvania
6.33705768 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.48023148 Hungarian_Csango
6.59313279 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
6.62218242 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
6.92408839 Hungarian_Szekely

Target: Croat_Slavonia+Lika
Distance: 1.6506% / 1.65060336 | ADC: 0.25x

42.8 Hungarian_Northern
30.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.8 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
10.6 Swiss_Italian

[Chris596]

Kosovar

His/Her East-Med is quite high, no? Albanian? My East Med admix is 18.48 Pct using my original Myheritage data.

[Ion Basescul]

His/Her East-Med is quite high, no? Albanian? My East Med admix is 18.48 Pct using my original Myheritage data.

People from Kosovo speak Albanian mostly.

[Jana]

His/Her East-Med is quite high, no? Albanian? My East Med admix is 18.48 Pct using my original Myheritage data.

Yes, it is surely ethnic Albanian result.

[Jana]

75% Croat 25% Magyar. One parent of this person is Herzegovina Croat, while other is half Hungarian and other half is from somewhere in Panonnian Croatia I presume.

Spoiler!

1 Baltic 35.07
2 North_Atlantic 31.70
3 West_Med 12.07
4 West_Asian 8.42
5 East_Med 8.32
6 South_Asian 1.27
7 Siberian 1.20
8 East_Asian 1.07


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 4.483219
2 Croatian @ 5.731112
3 East_German @ 7.650768
4 South_Polish @ 7.685582
5 Austrian @ 8.372961
6 Moldavian @ 8.547395
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 8.936377
8 Ukrainian @ 10.021129
9 Polish @ 12.126603
10 Serbian @ 12.539852
11 Southwest_Russian @ 14.309325
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 14.524445
13 Russian_Smolensk @ 15.301427
14 Southwest_Finnish @ 15.815742
15 Estonian_Polish @ 16.124928
16 Belorussian @ 16.305986
17 North_Swedish @ 16.429333
18 Romanian @ 17.311863
19 West_German @ 17.406702
20 North_German @ 17.978176

Distance to: Croat_1/4_Hungarian

2.58253751 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
3.05347343 Hungarian_Northern
3.69262002 Slovak
3.93634348 Slovenian
4.25435071 Czech
4.41825758 Hungarian_Budapest
4.50950108 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
4.77288173 Hungarian
4.89948977 Hungarian_Transdanubia
5.13232891 Hungarian_Alfold
5.76247343 Croat_Croatia
6.19044425 Croat
6.22759986 Croat_Slavonia
7.26461286 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
7.34439923 German_east
7.63531925 Moldova_North
7.64071986 East_German
7.68930426 South_Polish
7.78131094 Sorb_Lusatia
8.04905585 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
8.36128579 Austrian
8.37709377 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
8.52369052 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
8.61600255 Hungarian_Transylvania
8.97649709 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia

Target: Croat_1/4_Hungarian
Distance: 1.5235% / 1.52345134 | ADC: 0.25x

33.6 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
33.4 Hungarian_Northern
22.8 Czech
4.4 South_Polish
3.0 Tabassaran
2.0 North-Swedish
0.8 Uygur

[Jana]

Croat from Bosnian Posavina. E-V13 (E-BY15410) haplogroup.

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

1 Baltic 35.67
2 North_Atlantic 25.89
3 West_Med 14.55
4 East_Med 13.31
5 West_Asian 8.83
6 Red_Sea 0.8
7 East_Asian 0.66
8 Oceanian 0.16
9 Amerindian 0.09
10 Siberian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

1 Croatian 3.9
2 Moldavian 4.08
3 Hungarian 7.59
4 Serbian 8.03
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.56
6 South_Polish 10.06
7 Ukrainian 10.42
8 Romanian 11.34
9 Austrian 12.03
10 East_German 12.26
11 Bulgarian 13.05
12 Southwest_Russian 13.52
13 Polish 13.52
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.75
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.35
16 Estonian_Polish 15.86
17 Belorussian 16.39
18 Kargopol_Russian 18.25
19 Southwest_Finnish 19.53
20 West_German 19.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 61.7% Bulgarian + 38.3% Lithuanian @ 1.94
2 50.9% Bulgarian + 49.1% Polish @ 1.96
3 55.8% Ukrainian + 44.2% Bulgarian @ 1.97
4 55.8% Bulgarian + 44.2% Belorussian @ 1.97
5 54.1% Bulgarian + 45.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.07
6 56.7% South_Polish + 43.3% Bulgarian @ 2.08
7 55% Bulgarian + 45% Estonian_Polish @ 2.14
8 65.1% Romanian + 34.9% Lithuanian @ 2.17
9 73.9% Ukrainian + 26.1% Central_Greek @ 2.33
10 58.6% Romanian + 41.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.37
11 59.4% Romanian + 40.6% Belorussian @ 2.4
12 57.8% Romanian + 42.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.41
13 52.2% Ukrainian + 47.8% Romanian @ 2.41
14 76.6% Ukrainian + 23.4% South_Italian @ 2.42
15 65.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 34.1% Tuscan @ 2.42
16 68.3% Ukrainian + 31.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.45
17 81.6% South_Polish + 18.4% Cyprian @ 2.49
18 74.8% Ukrainian + 25.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.57
19 69.1% South_Polish + 30.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.57
20 73.6% Ukrainian + 26.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.6

Distance to: Croat_Bosnian_Posavina

2.61380948 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
3.44377700 Croat_Slavonia
3.52759125 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
3.54582854 Moldova_North
3.59357760 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
3.72857882 Croat_B&H
3.78553827 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
4.12983050 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
4.18157865 Croat
4.48656884 Croat_Croatia
4.50724972 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
4.52539751 Bosniak_Sarajevo
4.60359642 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.00319898 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
5.17219489 Bosniak
5.27802046 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
5.43996324 Hungarian_Alfold
5.90942468 Serb_B&H
6.54485294 Serb_B&H_Krajina
6.61500567 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.69325780 Romania_Maramures
6.70162667 Hungarian
6.99271764 Moldova_average
7.02506228 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
7.15188087 Serb_Serbia_West&Central

Target: Croat_Bosnian_Posavina
Distance: 1.5213% / 1.52129654 | ADC: 0.25x

47.6 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
29.0 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
14.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
6.6 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
2.8 Bulgarian_Ruse