Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

**Lucas** · 09-18-2020, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Creoda

Updated + new averages for K13 and K15 based on:

English_North: 66 kits
English_Midlands: 39 kits
English_Southeast: 25/26 kits
Irish_Munster: 28 kits

K13

Code:

English_North,50.42,23.90,13.05,5.85,3.14,0.72,1.04,0.11,0.25,0.62,0.43,0.21,0.21
English_Midlands,50.28,23.20,13.60,5.57,3.68,0.80,1.11,0.20,0.25,0.41,0.37,0.25,0.21
English_Southeast,48.88,22.88,14.42,6.25,3.93,0.63,0.99,0.24,0.24,0.48,0.51,0.29,0.18
Irish_Munster,52.98,23.00,12.26,6.67,1.62,0.22,1.36,0.19,0.27,0.79,0.23,0.17,0.18

How they plot:

K15

Code:

English_North,36.94,27.98,10.26,8.92,8.95,3.74,0.95,0.43,0.69,0.04,0.08,0.35,0.26,0.18,0.15
English_Midlands,36.76,28.18,9.80,8.56,9.42,3.72,1.21,0.59,0.80,0.08,0.06,0.18,0.21,0.18,0.16
English_Southeast,35.89,27.20,9.41,8.94,10.32,4.35,1.64,0.38,0.66,0.11,0.09,0.26,0.33,0.20,0.13
Irish_Munster,37.47,30.26,9.72,8.59,7.39,4.38,0.13,0.10,0.87,0.08,0.08,0.50,0.13,0.10,0.14

Included English_Southeast because it plots differently to the Eurogenes average (Southeast_English), but you don't have to add it.

Will be updated.

I will add Scottish regions later too. At least Highlands and Uplands.

**J. Ketch** · 09-18-2020, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Lucas

Will be updated.

I will add Scottish regions later too. At least Highlands and Uplands.

Cool, I can probably make an average for Ulster Scots soon too.

**~~JamesBond007~~** · 09-18-2020, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Creoda

Updated + new averages for K13 and K15 based on:

English_North: 66 kits
English_Midlands: 39 kits
English_Southeast: 25/26 kits
Irish_Munster: 28 kits

K13

Code:

English_North,50.42,23.90,13.05,5.85,3.14,0.72,1.04,0.11,0.25,0.62,0.43,0.21,0.21
English_Midlands,50.28,23.20,13.60,5.57,3.68,0.80,1.11,0.20,0.25,0.41,0.37,0.25,0.21
English_Southeast,48.88,22.88,14.42,6.25,3.93,0.63,0.99,0.24,0.24,0.48,0.51,0.29,0.18
Irish_Munster,52.98,23.00,12.26,6.67,1.62,0.22,1.36,0.19,0.27,0.79,0.23,0.17,0.18

How they plot:

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/VN8V0JHg/k13newcomparison.png[/IMG[

K15

Code:

English_North,36.94,27.98,10.26,8.92,8.95,3.74,0.95,0.43,0.69,0.04,0.08,0.35,0.26,0.18,0.15
English_Midlands,36.76,28.18,9.80,8.56,9.42,3.72,1.21,0.59,0.80,0.08,0.06,0.18,0.21,0.18,0.16
English_Southeast,35.89,27.20,9.41,8.94,10.32,4.35,1.64,0.38,0.66,0.11,0.09,0.26,0.33,0.20,0.13
Irish_Munster,37.47,30.26,9.72,8.59,7.39,4.38,0.13,0.10,0.87,0.08,0.08,0.50,0.13,0.10,0.14

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/m21XdYvV/k15newcomp.png[/IMG[

Included English_Southeast because it plots differently to the Eurogenes average (Southeast_English), but you don't have to add it.

IMHO, Eurogenes K15 is the better calculator for this because it splits NorthSea (Germanic) from insular Celtic (Atlantic) and because the English are more Eastern shifted than the Irish hence breaking down Batlic might help here too :

Eurogenes K15 Vahaduo :

Distanceto: Kevin
2.47523736 English_North
2.65992481 Welsh
2.72343533 English_Southeast
2.81405402 English_Midlands
2.81662919 England
2.88652040 Dutch
3.75050663 Scotland
4.18812607 Irish_Munster
4.22808467 Southwest_English
4.41881206 North_Dutch
4.61092182 FRA_Armorica
4.97456531 West_Scottish

Eurogenes K13 vahaduo:

Distance to: Kevin
3.88243480 Irish
4.00098738 Welsh
4.02877152 English_North
4.15497292 English
4.17688879 Scottish
4.24491460 Irish_Munster
4.42910826 Orcadian
4.58037116 English_Midlands
4.62673751 English_Southeast
4.84246838 West_Scottish
5.40641286 Southwest_English

**~~JamesBond007~~** · 09-18-2020, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Creoda

Cool, I can probably make an average for Ulster Scots soon too.

That would be great. Thanks, for the all the work here adding the samples !

**Leto** · 09-18-2020, 12:30 PM

Lukasz, did you update the rest?

**Grace O'Malley** · 09-18-2020, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Creoda

Updated + new averages for K13 and K15 based on:

English_North: 66 kits
English_Midlands: 39 kits
English_Southeast: 25/26 kits
Irish_Munster: 28 kits

K13

Code:

English_North,50.42,23.90,13.05,5.85,3.14,0.72,1.04,0.11,0.25,0.62,0.43,0.21,0.21
English_Midlands,50.28,23.20,13.60,5.57,3.68,0.80,1.11,0.20,0.25,0.41,0.37,0.25,0.21
English_Southeast,48.88,22.88,14.42,6.25,3.93,0.63,0.99,0.24,0.24,0.48,0.51,0.29,0.18
Irish_Munster,52.98,23.00,12.26,6.67,1.62,0.22,1.36,0.19,0.27,0.79,0.23,0.17,0.18

How they plot:

K15

Code:

English_North,36.94,27.98,10.26,8.92,8.95,3.74,0.95,0.43,0.69,0.04,0.08,0.35,0.26,0.18,0.15
English_Midlands,36.76,28.18,9.80,8.56,9.42,3.72,1.21,0.59,0.80,0.08,0.06,0.18,0.21,0.18,0.16
English_Southeast,35.89,27.20,9.41,8.94,10.32,4.35,1.64,0.38,0.66,0.11,0.09,0.26,0.33,0.20,0.13
Irish_Munster,37.47,30.26,9.72,8.59,7.39,4.38,0.13,0.10,0.87,0.08,0.08,0.50,0.13,0.10,0.14

Included English_Southeast because it plots differently to the Eurogenes average (Southeast_English), but you don't have to add it.

Just tried this being half Munster.

Distance to: Grace
3.13561796 North-Dutch
3.36795190 Irish
3.82745346 Norwegian
3.93558128 Scottish
4.08412781 English_North
4.09937800 Irish_Munster
4.10454626 West_Scottish
4.15441933 Orcadian
4.45470538 Denmark
4.51603809 English_North
4.68362039 Norway_South_Central
5.03711227 Sweden_Götaland
5.07089736 English
5.40668105 English_Midlands
5.50576062 English_Midlands
5.93609299 North_German
5.96929644 Danish
6.60856263 English_Southeast
6.61623004 Sweden_Svealand_West
6.82215508 Southeast_English
6.87663435 Southwest_English
6.94936688 Welsh
7.66868959 Swedish
8.03895516 FRA_Armorica
8.38923715 German_West

Target: Grace
Distance: 1.7339% / 1.73387774
50.8 Norwegian
47.2 Scottish
2.0 Tabassaran

K15 is much better.

Distance to: Grace
3.43841533 Irish
3.56359369 West_Scottish
3.71196713 Irish_Munster
4.18270248 North_Dutch
4.85860062 Scotland
4.89050100 English_North
4.98057226 Dutch
5.13658447 England
5.17952701 English_North
5.38257373 Welsh
5.48472424 EEnglish_Midlands
5.48894343 Orcadian
5.68003521 Southeast_English
5.72346049 English_Midlands
5.89959321 North_German
5.98392012 Danish
6.97787933 English_Southeast
7.47078309 Southwest_English
7.89285753 Swedish
7.95506757 Norway
7.98239939 FRA_Armorica
8.40683056 Norwegian
8.72043004 West_Norwegian
9.69024767 North_Swedish
9.74426498 Belgium

Target: Grace
Distance: 2.7287% / 2.72874215
45.0 Irish
27.8 Irish_Munster
14.6 Danish
8.8 West_Scottish
1.8 Chechen
1.8 Estonian
0.2 Karitiana

Brother's result

K13

Distance to: James
3.01522802 Irish
3.24752213 Irish_Munster
3.46151701 Scottish
4.18208082 West_Scottish
4.32296195 English_North
4.52370423 English_North
4.53580202 English_Midlands
4.64296242 Orcadian
4.67360674 Welsh
4.88955008 English
5.13824873 North-Dutch
5.30168841 English_Midlands
5.90113548 English_Southeast
5.92472784 Southwest_English
6.36709510 Norwegian
6.71545233 Denmark
6.94503420 Southeast_English
7.19092484 Norway_South_Central
7.22950206 FRA_Armorica
7.39820248 Sweden_Götaland
7.42495118 North_German
7.75466311 Danish
8.84359655 German_West
8.84834448 Sweden_Svealand_West
9.74591709 Swedish

Target: James
Distance: 2.0650% / 2.06501700
48.0 Irish_Munster
27.8 Welsh
21.6 Norwegian
2.6 Kalash

K15

Distance to: James
2.46870411 Scotland
2.57612112 Irish_Munster
2.57689736 Welsh
2.84849083 English_North
3.09189262 English_North
3.24625939 Orcadian
3.36902063 EEnglish_Midlands
3.45864135 Dutch
3.46612175 England
3.49729896 English_Midlands
3.82882489 West_Scottish
4.37418564 English_Southeast
4.43762324 North_Dutch
4.60527958 Irish
4.81108096 Southeast_English
5.68899815 Southwest_English
6.05658320 Danish
6.40571620 FRA_Armorica
7.28976680 North_German
7.35709182 Norway
7.71242504 Norwegian
7.78669378 West_Norwegian
8.01908349 Swedish
8.67170110 Belgium
9.52191157 North_Swedish

Target: James
Distance: 1.4086% / 1.40856522
48.4 Irish_Munster
16.0 Welsh
13.0 Orcadian
10.2 Scotland
9.6 West_Norwegian
2.4 Tabassaran
0.4 Mari

**J. Ketch** · 09-18-2020, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

Just tried this being half Munster.

Distance to: Grace
3.13561796 North-Dutch
3.36795190 Irish
3.82745346 Norwegian
3.93558128 Scottish
4.08412781 English_North
4.09937800 Irish_Munster
4.10454626 West_Scottish
4.15441933 Orcadian
4.45470538 Denmark
4.51603809 English_North
4.68362039 Norway_South_Central
5.03711227 Sweden_Götaland
5.07089736 English
5.40668105 English_Midlands
5.50576062 English_Midlands
5.93609299 North_German
5.96929644 Danish
6.60856263 English_Southeast
6.61623004 Sweden_Svealand_West
6.82215508 Southeast_English
6.87663435 Southwest_English
6.94936688 Welsh
7.66868959 Swedish
8.03895516 FRA_Armorica
8.38923715 German_West

Target: Grace
Distance: 1.7339% / 1.73387774
50.8 Norwegian
47.2 Scottish
2.0 Tabassaran

K15 is much better.

Distance to: Grace
3.43841533 Irish
3.56359369 West_Scottish
3.71196713 Irish_Munster
4.18270248 North_Dutch
4.85860062 Scotland
4.89050100 English_North
4.98057226 Dutch
5.13658447 England
5.17952701 English_North
5.38257373 Welsh
5.48472424 EEnglish_Midlands
5.48894343 Orcadian
5.68003521 Southeast_English
5.72346049 English_Midlands
5.89959321 North_German
5.98392012 Danish
6.97787933 English_Southeast
7.47078309 Southwest_English
7.89285753 Swedish
7.95506757 Norway
7.98239939 FRA_Armorica
8.40683056 Norwegian
8.72043004 West_Norwegian
9.69024767 North_Swedish
9.74426498 Belgium

Target: Grace
Distance: 2.7287% / 2.72874215
45.0 Irish
27.8 Irish_Munster
14.6 Danish
8.8 West_Scottish
1.8 Chechen
1.8 Estonian
0.2 Karitiana

The Munster kits were mostly found by Graham, mostly from Clare, some from Kerry+Cork. The Donegal kits so far (7-8) are extreme Irish, as you can see on the PCA. I'll be interested to see how Leinster compares when I get enough kits for it.

**Grace O'Malley** · 09-18-2020, 01:48 PM

My mother is wholly of North Munster descent

K13

Distance to: Bridget
3.16558052 Irish
3.52106518 Irish_Munster
3.56185345 Scottish
3.64547665 English_North
3.67194771 English_Midlands
3.83184029 English_North
4.10190200 English
4.23387529 Welsh
4.28544047 Orcadian
4.33636945 West_Scottish
4.49586477 English_Midlands
4.82193944 English_Southeast
5.13806384 North-Dutch
5.42839755 Southwest_English
6.09442368 FRA_Armorica
6.22804945 Southeast_English
6.69278716 Norwegian
6.83338862 North_German
6.83796753 Denmark
7.28066618 Danish
7.37328285 Norway_South_Central
7.53598700 Sweden_Götaland
7.82297258 German_West
8.91114471 Sweden_Svealand_West
9.60227056 Swedish

Target: Bridget
Distance: 1.1066% / 1.10658795
39.2 Irish_Munster
38.8 Welsh
17.6 Norwegian
3.6 Kalash
0.8 Estonian

K15

Distance to: Bridget
2.67411668 Irish_Munster
2.77593228 EEnglish_Midlands
2.79969641 England
2.81622087 Welsh
3.29822680 English_North
3.32270974 English_North
3.45933520 English_Midlands
3.72511745 Irish
3.82649971 Dutch
4.02479813 Southeast_English
4.07688607 West_Scottish
4.23024822 English_Southeast
4.26872346 Scotland
4.75162078 Orcadian
4.77049264 North_Dutch
4.78416137 Southwest_English
5.36185602 FRA_Armorica
5.98895650 North_German
7.15390103 Danish
7.34145081 Belgium
8.71921441 Norway
8.99645486 South_Dutch
9.03181045 Swedish
9.09906589 Norwegian
9.70568390 West_Norwegian

Target: Bridget
Distance: 0.9959% / 0.99594659
74.4 Irish_Munster
20.2 Welsh
2.4 North_Ossetian
1.2 Lithuanian
1.0 Dharkar
0.8 French_Basque

**J. Ketch** · 09-18-2020, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

My mother is wholly of North Munster descent

K13

Distance to: Bridget
3.16558052 Irish
3.52106518 Irish_Munster
3.56185345 Scottish
3.64547665 English_North
3.67194771 English_Midlands
3.83184029 English_North
4.10190200 English
4.23387529 Welsh
4.28544047 Orcadian
4.33636945 West_Scottish
4.49586477 English_Midlands
4.82193944 English_Southeast
5.13806384 North-Dutch
5.42839755 Southwest_English
6.09442368 FRA_Armorica
6.22804945 Southeast_English
6.69278716 Norwegian
6.83338862 North_German
6.83796753 Denmark
7.28066618 Danish
7.37328285 Norway_South_Central
7.53598700 Sweden_Götaland
7.82297258 German_West
8.91114471 Sweden_Svealand_West
9.60227056 Swedish

Target: Bridget
Distance: 1.1066% / 1.10658795
39.2 Irish_Munster
38.8 Welsh
17.6 Norwegian
3.6 Kalash
0.8 Estonian

K15

Distance to: Bridget
2.67411668 Irish_Munster
2.77593228 EEnglish_Midlands
2.79969641 England
2.81622087 Welsh
3.29822680 English_North
3.32270974 English_North
3.45933520 English_Midlands
3.72511745 Irish
3.82649971 Dutch
4.02479813 Southeast_English
4.07688607 West_Scottish
4.23024822 English_Southeast
4.26872346 Scotland
4.75162078 Orcadian
4.77049264 North_Dutch
4.78416137 Southwest_English
5.36185602 FRA_Armorica
5.98895650 North_German
7.15390103 Danish
7.34145081 Belgium
8.71921441 Norway
8.99645486 South_Dutch
9.03181045 Swedish
9.09906589 Norwegian
9.70568390 West_Norwegian

Target: Bridget
Distance: 0.9959% / 0.99594659
74.4 Irish_Munster
20.2 Welsh
2.4 North_Ossetian
1.2 Lithuanian
1.0 Dharkar
0.8 French_Basque

Might add her as a reference if that's OK?

**Grace O'Malley** · 09-18-2020, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Creoda

The Munster kits were mostly found by Graham, mostly from Clare, some from Kerry+Cork. The Donegal kits so far (7-8) are extreme Irish, as you can see on the PCA. I'll be interested to see how Leinster compares when I get enough kits for it.

That backs up what that Scottish study said as well that Donegal was the most isolated population in Ireland.