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    Thanks to vbnetkhio I managed to find the results of a person with quite an interesting background.

    The woman in question is the daughter of none other than Slobodan Penezić Krcun! Her mother, Krcun's wife, although born in Sarajevo, is by descent a Croat from the islands of Dalmatia:

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    Do you guys need this Croatian kit? Partially from Zadar county

    Kit Number: WQ6386976

    North_Atlantic 29.89 Pct
    Baltic 31.61 Pct
    West_Med 18.81 Pct
    West_Asian 8.21 Pct
    East_Med 9.33 Pct
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian 1.11 Pct
    Siberian 1.03 Pct
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Distance to: ~
    5.15828460 Hungarian_Budapest
    5.17778910 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
    5.25966729 Hungarian
    5.29328820 Hungarian_Alfold
    5.31068734 Croat_Croatia
    5.46030219 Croat
    5.59102853 Hungarian_Transylvania
    5.61103377 Hungarian_Transdanubia
    5.82182961 Slovenian
    6.14239367 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
    6.45102317 Hungarian_Csango
    6.51131323 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
    6.52962480 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
    6.53169197 Moldova_North
    6.57057836 Croat_Slavonia
    6.65836316 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
    6.67025487 Hungarian_Szekely
    6.78030235 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
    6.90566434 Croat_B&H
    6.96060342 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje

    Target: ~
    Distance: 2.7343% / 2.73431652 | ADC: 0.25x
    42.8 Moldova_North
    33.8 Slovenian
    10.2 Serb_B&H_Krajina
    8.6 French_Basque
    3.6 Ukrainian
    1.0 Sardinian

    Target: ~
    Distance: 1.3148% / 1.31484498
    27.6 South_Polish
    23.6 Ukrainian
    16.4 French_Basque
    11.6 Macedonian_Greece
    6.8 Bulgarian_Ruse
    5.2 Latvian
    4.8 Sardinian
    1.6 North_Ossetian
    1.6 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
    0.8 Abhkasian

    Oddly enough there is no Croatian in the oracle whatsoever.

    Gedrosia 3.56 Pct
    Siberian 1.20 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.95 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 28.44 Pct
    North_European 43.86 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 0.86 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 21.10 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: ~
    4.25666536 Croat
    5.13295237 Bosnian
    5.52478054 MD_North
    6.29639579 Slovenian
    6.67354479 Serb
    7.13111492 HUN_Szekely
    7.27316300 Hungarians
    7.71272974 MD_Center
    9.87020770 Montenegrin
    10.72906799 Slovak

    Target: ~
    Distance: 2.2576% / 2.25761231
    52.4 PL_Mazovia
    15.8 Sardinian
    11.4 Bulgarians
    10.4 Lithuanian
    10.0 North_Ossetians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Do you guys need this Croatian kit? Partially from Zadar county

    Kit Number: WQ6386976

    North_Atlantic 29.89 Pct
    Baltic 31.61 Pct
    West_Med 18.81 Pct
    West_Asian 8.21 Pct
    East_Med 9.33 Pct
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian 1.11 Pct
    Siberian 1.03 Pct
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Distance to: ~
    5.15828460 Hungarian_Budapest
    5.17778910 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
    5.25966729 Hungarian
    5.29328820 Hungarian_Alfold
    5.31068734 Croat_Croatia
    5.46030219 Croat
    5.59102853 Hungarian_Transylvania
    5.61103377 Hungarian_Transdanubia
    5.82182961 Slovenian
    6.14239367 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
    6.45102317 Hungarian_Csango
    6.51131323 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
    6.52962480 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
    6.53169197 Moldova_North
    6.57057836 Croat_Slavonia
    6.65836316 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
    6.67025487 Hungarian_Szekely
    6.78030235 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
    6.90566434 Croat_B&H
    6.96060342 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje

    Target: ~
    Distance: 2.7343% / 2.73431652 | ADC: 0.25x
    42.8 Moldova_North
    33.8 Slovenian
    10.2 Serb_B&H_Krajina
    8.6 French_Basque
    3.6 Ukrainian
    1.0 Sardinian

    Target: ~
    Distance: 1.3148% / 1.31484498
    27.6 South_Polish
    23.6 Ukrainian
    16.4 French_Basque
    11.6 Macedonian_Greece
    6.8 Bulgarian_Ruse
    5.2 Latvian
    4.8 Sardinian
    1.6 North_Ossetian
    1.6 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
    0.8 Abhkasian

    Oddly enough there is no Croatian in the oracle whatsoever.

    Gedrosia 3.56 Pct
    Siberian 1.20 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.95 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 28.44 Pct
    North_European 43.86 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 0.86 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 21.10 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: ~
    4.25666536 Croat
    5.13295237 Bosnian
    5.52478054 MD_North
    6.29639579 Slovenian
    6.67354479 Serb
    7.13111492 HUN_Szekely
    7.27316300 Hungarians
    7.71272974 MD_Center
    9.87020770 Montenegrin
    10.72906799 Slovak

    Target: ~
    Distance: 2.2576% / 2.25761231
    52.4 PL_Mazovia
    15.8 Sardinian
    11.4 Bulgarians
    10.4 Lithuanian
    10.0 North_Ossetians
    yes, it's a relative of the woman CommonSense just posted above.

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    A full Bulgarian Gypsy living in Hessen, Germany
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    North_Atlantic 9.01 Pct
    Baltic 7.40 Pct
    West_Med 13.32 Pct
    West_Asian 19.56 Pct
    East_Med 19.88 Pct
    Red_Sea 2.05 Pct
    South_Asian 26.72 Pct
    East_Asian 1.22 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.79 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Distance to: Luba
    4.12629374 Balkan_Gypsy
    8.64325170 Romani
    20.22516255 Parsi_India
    25.96100537 Turkmen
    26.10462986 Turk_Edirne
    26.19953244 Afghan_Tadjik
    26.65282912 Iran_Bandari
    26.71138896 Iran_Centraleast
    26.72837444 Turk_South
    26.98356537 Turk_Anatolia

    Target: Luba
    Distance: 2.4578% / 2.45776099 | ADC: 0.25x
    83.6 Balkan_Gypsy
    14.0 Parsi_India
    2.2 Sardinian
    0.2 Velamas

    Gedrosia 16.63 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.90 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 14.56 Pct
    North_European 11.12 Pct
    South_Asian 21.20 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 9.50 Pct
    East_Asian 0.15 Pct
    Caucasus 25.93 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Luba
    4.70275451 Balkan_Gypsy
    19.05327793 Parsi_India
    20.89649253 Tajik_Herat
    20.93037745 Iran_Khorasan
    22.45055679 Turkmen_Iran
    23.19823485 Tajik_Kabul
    23.53392233 Iranian_Fars
    23.58517543 Turk_Northwest
    23.64452368 Turk_Southwest
    23.75812072 Bnei_Menashe_Jews

    Target: Luba
    Distance: 2.3029% / 2.30288800 | ADC: 0.25x
    81.6 Balkan_Gypsy
    6.8 Syrians
    5.8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
    5.8 Parsi_India

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    Just came across this individual (female). All I know is both her grandfathers were born in Croatia. If you need the #, I'll send you in a rep comment.

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 38.45
    2 North_Atlantic 26.07
    3 West_Med 15.55
    4 East_Med 8.34
    5 West_Asian 6.29
    6 Siberian 1.69
    7 Amerindian 1.34
    8 Red_Sea 0.99
    9 Northeast_African 0.55
    10 East_Asian 0.31
    11 Oceanian 0.27
    12 Sub-Saharan 0.13

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Croatian 3.52
    2 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.56
    3 Moldavian 6
    4 Ukrainian 6.37
    5 South_Polish 7.04
    6 Hungarian 8.79
    7 Polish 9.69
    8 Southwest_Russian 10.43
    9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.08
    10 East_German 11.64
    11 Russian_Smolensk 11.79
    12 Estonian_Polish 12.08
    13 Serbian 12.22
    14 Austrian 12.57
    15 Belorussian 13.02
    16 Kargopol_Russian 14.05
    17 Romanian 15.72
    18 Southwest_Finnish 16.06
    19 Erzya 16.14
    20 Estonian 16.56

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.4% Southwest_Russian + 17.6% Sardinian @ 1.73
    2 81.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 18.5% Sardinian @ 2.04
    3 90.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 9.6% Sardinian @ 2.28
    4 89% Ukrainian + 11% Sardinian @ 2.28
    5 85.2% Ukrainian + 14.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.47
    6 83.6% Ukrainian + 16.4% Tuscan @ 2.51
    7 81.7% Ukrainian + 18.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.54
    8 86.6% Ukrainian + 13.4% South_Italian @ 2.6
    9 85.6% Ukrainian + 14.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.64
    10 88% Ukrainian + 12% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.65
    11 85.6% Croatian + 14.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.65
    12 71.7% Croatian + 28.3% Ukrainian @ 2.68
    13 85.2% Ukrainian + 14.8% Central_Greek @ 2.69
    14 75.1% Ukrainian + 24.9% Bulgarian @ 2.7
    15 87.6% Croatian + 12.4% Erzya @ 2.7
    16 72.9% Ukrainian + 27.1% Romanian @ 2.74
    17 51.8% Moldavian + 48.2% Ukrainian @ 2.76
    18 82.7% Ukrainian + 17.3% North_Italian @ 2.78
    19 88.2% Ukrainian + 11.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.82
    20 85.1% Ukrainian + 14.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.83


    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 26.19
    2 Baltic 23.3
    3 Eastern_Euro 16.89
    4 West_Med 12.17
    5 Atlantic 8.53
    6 East_Med 5.39
    7 West_Asian 4.56
    8 Siberian 0.96
    9 Amerindian 0.92
    10 Red_Sea 0.73
    11 Northeast_African 0.17
    12 Southeast_Asian 0.13
    13 Oceanian 0.07

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.28
    2 Ukrainian 8.4
    3 Moldavian 9.19
    4 Hungarian 9.49
    5 South_Polish 10.46
    6 Croatian 10.7
    7 Polish 12.71
    8 East_German 12.93
    9 Finnish 13.99
    10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.12
    11 Southwest_Russian 14.16
    12 Serbian 14.4
    13 Estonian 14.58
    14 Russian_Smolensk 14.78
    15 Austrian 14.95
    16 East_Finnish 15.12
    17 Southwest_Finnish 15.31
    18 Belorussian 15.61
    19 Estonian_Polish 15.7
    20 Kargopol_Russian 15.72

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 83.6% Ukrainian + 16.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 7.03
    2 90.4% Ukrainian + 9.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 7.16
    3 88.1% Ukrainian + 11.9% Ashkenazi @ 7.37
    4 57.7% Ukrainian + 42.3% Moldavian @ 7.38
    5 90.4% Ukrainian + 9.6% Italian_Jewish @ 7.39
    6 81.5% Ukrainian + 18.5% West_German @ 7.4
    7 88.6% Ukrainian + 11.4% Central_Greek @ 7.41
    8 88.9% Ukrainian + 11.1% East_Sicilian @ 7.42
    9 92.1% Ukrainian + 7.9% Sardinian @ 7.44
    10 86.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 7.45
    11 90% Ukrainian + 10% South_Italian @ 7.47
    12 60.4% Ukrainian + 39.6% Hungarian @ 7.47
    13 92.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.2% Sardinian @ 7.49
    14 83.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 16.8% West_German @ 7.5
    15 88% Ukrainian + 12% Tuscan @ 7.51
    16 91.2% Ukrainian + 8.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 7.51
    17 92.9% Ukrainian + 7.1% Samaritan @ 7.51
    18 91.8% Ukrainian + 8.2% Algerian @ 7.53
    19 92.2% Ukrainian + 7.8% Cyprian @ 7.53
    20 93.1% Ukrainian + 6.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 7.53


    Population
    Gedrosia 1.99 Pct
    Siberian 1.95 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 24.81 Pct
    North_European 50.03 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African 0.53 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 3.51 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 17.19 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Just came across this individual (female). All I know is both her grandfathers were born in Croatia. If you need the #, I'll send you in a rep comment.

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 38.45
    2 North_Atlantic 26.07
    3 West_Med 15.55
    4 East_Med 8.34
    5 West_Asian 6.29
    6 Siberian 1.69
    7 Amerindian 1.34
    8 Red_Sea 0.99
    9 Northeast_African 0.55
    10 East_Asian 0.31
    11 Oceanian 0.27
    12 Sub-Saharan 0.13

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Croatian 3.52
    2 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.56
    3 Moldavian 6
    4 Ukrainian 6.37
    5 South_Polish 7.04
    6 Hungarian 8.79
    7 Polish 9.69
    8 Southwest_Russian 10.43
    9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.08
    10 East_German 11.64
    11 Russian_Smolensk 11.79
    12 Estonian_Polish 12.08
    13 Serbian 12.22
    14 Austrian 12.57
    15 Belorussian 13.02
    16 Kargopol_Russian 14.05
    17 Romanian 15.72
    18 Southwest_Finnish 16.06
    19 Erzya 16.14
    20 Estonian 16.56

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.4% Southwest_Russian + 17.6% Sardinian @ 1.73
    2 81.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 18.5% Sardinian @ 2.04
    3 90.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 9.6% Sardinian @ 2.28
    4 89% Ukrainian + 11% Sardinian @ 2.28
    5 85.2% Ukrainian + 14.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.47
    6 83.6% Ukrainian + 16.4% Tuscan @ 2.51
    7 81.7% Ukrainian + 18.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.54
    8 86.6% Ukrainian + 13.4% South_Italian @ 2.6
    9 85.6% Ukrainian + 14.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.64
    10 88% Ukrainian + 12% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.65
    11 85.6% Croatian + 14.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.65
    12 71.7% Croatian + 28.3% Ukrainian @ 2.68
    13 85.2% Ukrainian + 14.8% Central_Greek @ 2.69
    14 75.1% Ukrainian + 24.9% Bulgarian @ 2.7
    15 87.6% Croatian + 12.4% Erzya @ 2.7
    16 72.9% Ukrainian + 27.1% Romanian @ 2.74
    17 51.8% Moldavian + 48.2% Ukrainian @ 2.76
    18 82.7% Ukrainian + 17.3% North_Italian @ 2.78
    19 88.2% Ukrainian + 11.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.82
    20 85.1% Ukrainian + 14.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.83


    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 26.19
    2 Baltic 23.3
    3 Eastern_Euro 16.89
    4 West_Med 12.17
    5 Atlantic 8.53
    6 East_Med 5.39
    7 West_Asian 4.56
    8 Siberian 0.96
    9 Amerindian 0.92
    10 Red_Sea 0.73
    11 Northeast_African 0.17
    12 Southeast_Asian 0.13
    13 Oceanian 0.07

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.28
    2 Ukrainian 8.4
    3 Moldavian 9.19
    4 Hungarian 9.49
    5 South_Polish 10.46
    6 Croatian 10.7
    7 Polish 12.71
    8 East_German 12.93
    9 Finnish 13.99
    10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.12
    11 Southwest_Russian 14.16
    12 Serbian 14.4
    13 Estonian 14.58
    14 Russian_Smolensk 14.78
    15 Austrian 14.95
    16 East_Finnish 15.12
    17 Southwest_Finnish 15.31
    18 Belorussian 15.61
    19 Estonian_Polish 15.7
    20 Kargopol_Russian 15.72

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 83.6% Ukrainian + 16.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 7.03
    2 90.4% Ukrainian + 9.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 7.16
    3 88.1% Ukrainian + 11.9% Ashkenazi @ 7.37
    4 57.7% Ukrainian + 42.3% Moldavian @ 7.38
    5 90.4% Ukrainian + 9.6% Italian_Jewish @ 7.39
    6 81.5% Ukrainian + 18.5% West_German @ 7.4
    7 88.6% Ukrainian + 11.4% Central_Greek @ 7.41
    8 88.9% Ukrainian + 11.1% East_Sicilian @ 7.42
    9 92.1% Ukrainian + 7.9% Sardinian @ 7.44
    10 86.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 7.45
    11 90% Ukrainian + 10% South_Italian @ 7.47
    12 60.4% Ukrainian + 39.6% Hungarian @ 7.47
    13 92.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.2% Sardinian @ 7.49
    14 83.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 16.8% West_German @ 7.5
    15 88% Ukrainian + 12% Tuscan @ 7.51
    16 91.2% Ukrainian + 8.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 7.51
    17 92.9% Ukrainian + 7.1% Samaritan @ 7.51
    18 91.8% Ukrainian + 8.2% Algerian @ 7.53
    19 92.2% Ukrainian + 7.8% Cyprian @ 7.53
    20 93.1% Ukrainian + 6.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 7.53


    Population
    Gedrosia 1.99 Pct
    Siberian 1.95 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 24.81 Pct
    North_European 50.03 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African 0.53 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 3.51 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 17.19 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -
    but you don't know her full ancestry?

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    I think in Dalmatian islands North Atlantic scores can be high (and relatively low Baltic) and not related with anything Germanic or Venetian but with remnents of Illyrian ancestry.
    However it's still too little samples from there to paint some kind of picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    but you don't know her full ancestry?
    I don't. Do you need her number or email? I can provide you with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I don't. Do you need her number or email? I can provide you with them.
    Thanks for info. No need, I kind of gave up from sample collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Thanks for info. No need, I kind of gave up from sample collection.
    Maybe you need a break from TA in general 'cause previously you were more enthusiastic about Croatian results.

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