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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Another ancient result from nowadays Kazakhstan(3700-300 years ago). I would say obviously no Turkic/preTurkic but too weird for early IE? Maybe some kind of steppe, or?

    Gedrosian: 20.02 Pct
    Siberian: 29.44 Pct

    Northwest_African: -
    Southeast_Asian: -
    Atlantic_Med: -

    North_European: 47.01 Pct
    South_Asian: 3.17 Pct

    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian: -
    East_Asian: -
    Caucasian: -

    SSA: 0.37 Pct
    Looks like a low coverage sample, tbh. Not even a Scythian would have scored zero Caucasus and zero Med.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Looks like a low coverage sample, tbh. Not even a Scythian would have scored zero Caucasus and zero Med.
    The sample is from Botai-culture. It is suspected that this culture either was IE, Proto Turkic or Proto Ugric.

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    I know not from Asia(Ukraine), but the ancestor of many there: Scythian result Y-DNA J2a. Still very Asian influenced but comparing with the Botai result more „accurate“ to classify and definitely an early IE.

    Gedrosian: 19.16 Pct
    Siberian: 10.25 Pct

    Northwest_African: -
    Southeast_Asian: 0.86 Pct
    Atlantic_Med: 12.56 Pct
    North_European: 37.75 Pct
    South_Asian: 3,41 Pct

    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian: -

    East_Asian: 3.88 Pct
    Caucasian: 10.63 Pct
    Sub-Saharan: 1.49 Pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Matches between Balkan Turks and Eastern Anatolians are usually connected with Celali Rebellion in my experience.

    Turkmens from the region were expelled, the ones who had stayed ended up with being Zaza or Kurdish.
    I agree with you. I also think more Iranic influence on some Balkan Turks is related with this for no doubt. Yet, he is usually modeled 1/8 Bulgarian or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    The interesting point was that 13000 years ago someone in Georgia had North European, not the SSA. Normally this region shouldn’t show North European but this person were probably influenced by northern neighbors.
    Vica Versa I would say it is Satsurbila genes in modern North Europeans.

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    Jatt
    He is more European than most Central Asians

    Gedrosia 35.43 Pct
    Siberian 1.64 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 5.85 Pct
    North_European 20.97 Pct

    South_Asian 26.19 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 0.61 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 9.31 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    (the oracle is crap because of inadequate references)

    Target: Jt
    Distance: 1.4720% / 1.47202439 | ADC: 0.25x
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    Talysh from Lankaran:

    Gedrosian: 26.11 Pct
    Siberian: 0.23 Pct
    Northwest_African: 0.48 Pct
    Southeast_Asian: 0.27 Pct
    Atlantic_Med: 6.94 Pct
    North_European: 7.11 Pct
    South_Asian: 2.74 Pct

    East_African: -
    Southwest_Asian: 11.00 Pct
    East_Asian: 2.39 Pct
    Caucasian: 42.74 Pct

    SSA: -

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    This Göktürk sample was probably posted here, but imo there are some remarkable things. Comparing to the Botai sample it has East Asian, AtlMed and less Northeuro and less Siberia, but no South Asia and again no Caucasus.

    Gedrosia: 23.62 Pct
    Siberian: 18.90 Pct
    Northwest_African: -
    Southeast_Asian: 1.12 Pct
    Atlantic_Med: 11.24 Pct
    North_European: 26.86 Pct

    South_Asian: -
    East_African: -
    Southwest_Asian: -

    East_Asian: 18.09 Pct
    Caucasus: -
    Sub_Saharan: -

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    Does anyone have any Yaghnobi gedmatch results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatCat View Post
    Does anyone have any Yaghnobi gedmatch results?
    They are in the Vahaduo spreadsheet. Other than those few samples I doubt you'll ever find any as it's a tiny and mostly assimilated community. Even regular Tajiks are scarce on Gedmatch (I've seen like 5 or so only).

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