Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2

**Kyp** · 10-05-2020, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Leto

They look very similar to the Tat I've seen. Maybe it's the same person?

Could be but it was a new kit with personal name e-mail etc.

**Leto** · 10-05-2020, 11:26 AM

An Armenian with less than 1 percent North European

Kit Number: MZ5928425

Population
Gedrosia 17.19 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 2.23 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.15 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.10 Pct
North_European 0.67 Pct
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 15.83 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 50.66 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.25 Pct

More South Asian than North European

**Leto** · 10-05-2020, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Kyp

Could be but it was a new kit with personal name e-mail etc.

Here is the Tat

Gedrosia 22.10 Pct
Siberian 2.73 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.70 Pct
North_European 12.86 Pct
South_Asian 2.20 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.63 Pct
East_Asian 0.63 Pct
Caucasus 43.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.12 Pct

It would be a good idea to email that person. If he's another Tat, we'll have a second sample. Tats are pretty rare and basically disappearing in the Republic and elsewhere.

Bender1999 · 10-05-2020, 11:44 AM

Saka, who lived 2577 years ago in Kazakhstan:

Gedrosian: 15.51 Pct
Siberian: 23.34 Pct
Northwest_African: 0.13 Pct
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 4.89 Pct
North_European: 38.50 Pct
South_Asian: -
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: -
East_Asian: 17.25 Pct
Caucasian: -
SSA: 0.35 Pct

**Kyp** · 10-05-2020, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Leto

Here is the Tat

Gedrosia 22.10 Pct
Siberian 2.73 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.70 Pct
North_European 12.86 Pct
South_Asian 2.20 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.63 Pct
East_Asian 0.63 Pct
Caucasus 43.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.12 Pct

It would be a good idea to email that person. If he's another Tat, we'll have a second sample. Tats are pretty rare and basically disappearing in the Republic and elsewhere.

Urmia + Tat from Takestan:

Gedrosian: 21.14
Siberian: 3.48
Northwest_African: 1.38
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 10.03
North_European: 8.89
South_Asian 4.97
East_African 1.61
Southwest_Asian: 12.47
East_Asian: 0.45
Caucasian: 35.49
South_African: 0.00

Distance to: Urmia+Tat
5.37096826 Azerbaijani
5.63125208 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.06687729 Turk_Southeast
6.67675820 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.88231066 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.61286411 Kurd_Sorani
7.79992308 Turkmen_Iraq
8.58347249 Zaza
8.88968503 Iranian_Fars
8.94588173 Turk_South
9.19854880 Turk_Central_East
9.44290739 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.89579204 Iran_Khorasan
9.92816196 Turk_Central_West
9.93314150 Turk_Anatolia
10.37028447 Lur_Iran
10.60014151 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.79760159 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.86838995 Iranian
11.60756219 Turk_Southwest
11.75909010 Turk_East
11.80886531 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.85818283 Kurd_KAZ
11.96086535 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.53972488 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Target: Urmia+Tat
Distance: 1.7963% / 1.79628430 | ADC: 0.25x
38.6 Turk_Southeast
34.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
16.4 Parsi_India
4.0 Turk_Macedonia
2.8 Italy_Sicily
1.6 Selkup
1.4 Yagnobi

I can look in his match list if I'll find something

**Kyp** · 10-05-2020, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Here is the Tat

Gedrosia 22.10 Pct
Siberian 2.73 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.70 Pct
North_European 12.86 Pct
South_Asian 2.20 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.63 Pct
East_Asian 0.63 Pct
Caucasus 43.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.12 Pct

It would be a good idea to email that person. If he's another Tat, we'll have a second sample. Tats are pretty rare and basically disappearing in the Republic and elsewhere.

The iranian Tat matches this guy from the Republic:

Gedrosian: 21.29
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.83
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 9.98
North_European: 9.52
South_Asian: 1.79
East_African: 0.16
Southwest_Asian: 10.74
East_Asian: 2.87
Caucasian: 42.81
South_African: 0.00

Distance to: Match.Tat
4.43306891 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.57028446 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.44117634 Zaza
5.54623296 Azerbaijani
5.56663273 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.60183898 Turk_East
6.58276538 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.76803517 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.29861631 Turk_Southeast
7.76425785 Turk_Central_East
8.64869932 Turkmen_Iraq
9.08865777 Kurd_Sorani
9.16390201 Kurd_KAZ
9.84658316 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.85660185 Armenian_East
9.99379808 Turk_South
10.18058446 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.48136919 Turk_Anatolia
10.49396017 Turk_Central_West
10.55396134 Iranian
11.15221951 Lur_Iran
11.26912153 Turk_Ahiska
11.88718217 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
11.96875098 Armenian_West
12.19521218 Azeri_Jew

Target: Match.Tat
Distance: 1.5332% / 1.53321840 | ADC: 0.25x
65.6 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.2 Azerbaijani
9.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.4 Spanish_Basque
1.2 Korean

**Leto** · 10-05-2020, 12:06 PM

Some interesting results, presumably an Arab. Low Gedrosia, relatively high SW Asian, high Atlantic Med, no SSA and low East African.

Gedrosia 4.87 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 6.48 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 16.03 Pct
North_European 5.17 Pct
South_Asian 1.04 Pct
East_African 3.77 Pct
Southwest_Asian 29.04 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 33.61 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Target: N.M.
Distance: 2.2127% / 2.21272989 | ADC: 0.25x
33.0 Bedouin
25.6 MD_Jewish
24.2 Palestinian
14.0 Morocco_Jews
3.2 Egyptans

These Arab references may be incorrect, no one has updated them. But 40% Jewish is still remarkable.

EDIT: she appears to be Israeli, maybe a Yemenite/Ashkenazi mix or something like that.

**Fedora** · 10-05-2020, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Here is the Tat

Gedrosia 22.10 Pct
Siberian 2.73 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.70 Pct
North_European 12.86 Pct
South_Asian 2.20 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.63 Pct
East_Asian 0.63 Pct
Caucasus 43.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.12 Pct

It would be a good idea to email that person. If he's another Tat, we'll have a second sample. Tats are pretty rare and basically disappearing in the Republic and elsewhere.

They call themself Dagli(Mountaineer) in Azerbaijan as far as I know, there are also Tat villages around Baku, infact before oil production it was like a province of 14k people with almost only Tats. People from eastern Azerbaijan on the Caspian Sea areas are either more iranic or caucasian(the more north you go) influenced. For example North eastern Azerbaijanis score like 19% NE.

**Fedora** · 10-05-2020, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

An Armenian with less than 1 percent North European

Kit Number: MZ5928425

Population
Gedrosia 17.19 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 2.23 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.15 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.10 Pct
North_European 0.67 Pct
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 15.83 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 50.66 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.25 Pct

More South Asian than North European

This guys ancestors are from Urfa-Siverek.

Bender1999 · 10-05-2020, 12:33 PM

First Azerbaijani, the second one Georgian. Both from Gədəbəy.

Gedrosia: 24.04 Pct.
Siberian 2.62 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 0.43 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 8.51 Pct
North_European: 5.52 Pct
South_Asian: -
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 10.43 Pct
East_Asian: 8.30 Pct
Caucasus: 39.53 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.60 Pct

Gedrosia: 18.93 Pct
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian : -
Atlantic_Med: 5.04 Pct
North_European: 8.21 Pct
South_Asian: 0.14 Pct
East_African: 0.10 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 8.06 Oct
East_Asian: -
Caucasus: 59.52 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -