Southern Italians have no ancient Greek ancestry

[Tarlus Magnus]

sicilians are probably the most mixed people in europe if not in the world (apart from USA) and thats not suprising at all since they're also one the most promiscuos people ever, they literally fucked the whole mediterranean sea and not only that.
They mostly have lebanese/arab and greek DNA and a bit of normand/alpinid DNA

[gixajo]

sicilians are probably the most mixed people in europe if not in the world (apart from USA) and thats not suprising at all since they're also one the most promiscuos people ever, they literally fucked the whole mediterranean sea and not only that.
They mostly have lebanese/arab and greek DNA and a bit of normand/alpinid DNA

And who says that is:

Ancestry
Croatian (50%) , French, Austrian, Italian

[Tarlus Magnus]

And who says that is:

well almost entirely eastern and central european so not really that mixed my french ancestry is quite far because my grand grandfather was french (alpes)

[grabielx]

Can you try modelling modern Sicilians & South Italians using MBA/LBA Sicilians + other populations?

[gixajo]

Could you post sources? (with coordinates), maybe someone want to try this model.

[gixajo]

Could you post sources? (with coordinates), maybe someone want to try this model.

[grabielx]

Could you post sources? (with coordinates), maybe someone want to try this model.

Greek:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2,0.118376,0.158423 ,-0.009051,-0.0670225,0.0252355,-0.027889,0.001645,-0.005077,0.0049085,0.042552,0.002842,0.01124,-0.016873,0.003578,-0.018526,-0.0157785,0.0035855,0.0003805,0.004588,-0.0126935,-0.008298,0.001546,0.001664,0.0071095,-0.008502
Greek:GRC_Mycenaean,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
Levant_Ashkelon_IA2,0.0789173,0.1411587,-0.0600877,-0.1049757,-0.0165157,-0.0365343,-0.0036033,-0.017461,0.0156117,0.011906,0.0060623,-0.007094,0.0225967,-0.003991,-0.010541,0.0114467,0.00339,-0.005574,-0.005447,0.0036683,0.0041593,0.0037097,-0.0047657,-0.007471,0.0026343
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
MAR_Taforalt,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1255849,0.089028,0.0426986,0. 1153479,-0.0287232,0.0450564,0.0036033,-0.0025642,-0.0559032,-0.0728943,0.0018222,3.32e-05,-0.0026924,-0.0233041,0.0366141,0.0157633,-0.0012316,-0.0017879,-0.0038408,0.0137704,-0.0031749,0.0007557,0.0110649,0.0186102,-0.004537
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Yoruba,-0.630062,0.062501,0.022113,0.016708,0.000503,0.012 474,-0.044417,0.047767,-0.048881,0.032769,0.004621,0.00079,0.023056,0.0009 51,0.012523,-0.009607,0.007076,0.000449,0.006022,-0.00299,0.001554,0.002316,-0.001759,-0.000471,-0.000425
ITA_Sicily_MBA,0.119514,0.166547,0.0056565,-0.0708985,0.0495475,-0.02524,0.0027025,-0.0036925,0.028838,0.0722565,0.0016235,0.0164855,-0.024752,-0.00289,-0.022801,-0.005038,0.012126,-0.00076,0.004588,-0.0097545,-0.0043675,0.000495,-0.004437,-0.0129535,0.0020955

It doesn't have European neolithic sources outside of Sicily MBA that has CHG and Levant compared to other EFF and CA Europeans. So for non southern Italians one should add:

EEF:Scotland_N,0.1269127,0.1690178,0.0542928,-0.0322677,0.0862828,-0.0224879,-0.0037679,0.0030922,0.0634297,0.0853533,-0.0002544,0.0123091,-0.0271157,-0.0115236,-0.0072611,0.0027269,0.0076274,0.0045017,0.0042653,-0.0041436,0.0120538,0.0032151,-0.0154018,-0.0339485,-0.0001358
EEF:ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N,0.1222458,0.1842168,0. 0082966,-0.0902462,0.0553334,-0.044957,-0.0058282,-0.0081228,0.0436042,0.0857604,0.0063658,0.0136678,-0.0239346,-0.0047618,-0.0360746,-0.0112964,0.0194534,0.0015456,0.0086482,-0.0130314,-0.012827,0.0041546,-0.002465,-0.0036872,-0.0021554
EEF:AUT_LBK_N,0.1220754,0.1839379,0.015792,-0.0885424,0.0642426,-0.0428098,-0.0023206,-0.0037789,0.0449952,0.0860381,0.0079368,0.0105094,-0.0204036,0.0025289,-0.0382054,-0.0129606,0.0148475,0.0011245,0.0146436,-0.0096453,-0.006738,0.0098304,-0.0058542,-0.0064919,-0.0058527
EEF:Iberia_Southeast_MLN,0.1261811,0.1677073,0.045 7934,-0.042959,0.0838399,-0.0274906,-0.0071173,-0.0006594,0.0686909,0.0943201,0.0008583,0.0181337,-0.0329389,-0.0142144,-0.0076001,-0.0033906,0.0013783,0.002968,0.0018857,-0.0046451,0.0077719,0.0038863,-0.0161279,-0.037768,0.0005473

[Deusex99]

Terrible models. You are literally forcing the software to use Ashkelon as the Southern component. There are plenty of Anatolian populations who gave better fits. See here.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6927163

[gixajo]

It doesn't have European neolithic sources outside of Sicily MBA that has CHG and Levant compared to other EFF and CA Europeans. So for non southern Italians one should add:

Thanks.

I´ve just posted this model wich maybe you could be interested in:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...45#post6928545

Just for fun, of course.

[Deusex99]

Double.