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Thread: Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2

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    This isn't the right thread, but where can we post East Asians?
    I have some 50/50 Europeans/Asians

    ZN1703087 - SE Asian
    UF9983996 - NE Asian
    LF9699322 - NE Asian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    This isn't the right thread, but where can we post East Asians?
    I have some 50/50 Europeans/Asians

    ZN1703087 - SE Asian
    UF9983996 - NE Asian
    LF9699322 - NE Asian
    Well, most of us don't know much about them and I suspect Dodecad and some other calcs do not have accurate referances for East Asians/SE Asians either.
    But yeah, the subject matter of this thread stops at Bangladesh and Mongolia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    A Baloch:

    Gedrosian: 51.80
    Siberian: 1.34
    Northwest_African: 0.47
    Southeast_Asian: 0.00
    Atlantic_Med: 2.20
    North_European: 0.00
    South_Asian: 16.09
    East_African: 0.40
    Southwest_Asian: 10.85
    East_Asian: 0.00
    Caucasian: 16.84
    Sub_Saharan: 0.00

    Isfahan Persian:

    Is that typical for Balochs? I mean i just saw 2 or 3 samples and they are nearly none steppe influenced. Genetically they look like pre Iranic south-central asians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Is that typical for Balochs? I mean i just saw 2 or 3 samples and they are nearly none steppe influenced. Genetically they look like pre Iranic south-central asians.
    It could be just because of Dodecad and that they were used as reference for Gedrosia. They do have some steppe ancestry I think. But yes overall they are closer to Neolithic Iranians than other Iranians but also have additionaly South Asian.


    This guy is how I imagine ancient Neolithic Iranians to look like (but im probably wrong since they dont resemble modern people):
    Last edited by Kyp; 10-09-2020 at 07:58 PM.

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    That guy looks like a full-blown Pakistani which he probably is since most Balochis live in Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    It could be just because of Dodecad and that they were used as reference for Gedrosia. They do have some steppe ancestry I think. But yes overall they are closer to Neolithic Iranians than other Iranians but also have additionaly South Asian.


    This guy is how I imagine ancient Neolithic Iranians to look like (but im probably wrong since they dont resemble modern people):
    Iranian Balochi guy sounds more similar to kurdi than farsi which is not too surprising considering kurd baloch shared Mede/Parthian ancestry

    His 1st word is choni is like kurdi chwani means how are you. In farsi its chitori - Pashto- Tsanga ye
    Next word Bachilok. Kurdi- Bachik- Farsi-bacha- Padhto-maashoom/Kuchnai (Kandahari) . This is close to kurdi Bachik
    Balochi- Chikonagi. Kurdi-Chitkai- Farsi- che kaar mekoni - Tsa kai or in Quetta mostly but kandahar sometimes too Chish kai. Again this is close to kurdi Chitkai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro View Post
    Iranian Balochi guy sounds more similar to kurdi than farsi which is not too surprising considering kurd baloch shared Mede/Parthian ancestry

    His 1st word is choni is like kurdi chwani means how are you. In farsi its chitori - Pashto- Tsanga ye
    Next word Bachilok. Kurdi- Bachik- Farsi-bacha- Padhto-maashoom/Kuchnai (Kandahari) . This is close to kurdi Bachik
    Balochi- Chikonagi. Kurdi-Chitkai- Farsi- che kaar mekoni - Tsa kai or in Quetta mostly but kandahar sometimes too Chish kai. Again this is close to kurdi Chitkai
    I believe there are shared kurdi-pashto words to exclusion of persian because both kurds and many pashtuns have more Parthian ancestry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro View Post
    I believe there are shared kurdi-pashto words to exclusion of persian because both kurds and many pashtuns have more Parthian ancestry
    Can you create a thread and give us a list of these words? There are many Parthian monuments and settlements in Kurdistan. I think even Qizqapan is more likely to be Parthian than Mede.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halgurd View Post
    Can you create a thread and give us a list of these words? There are many Parthian monuments and settlements in Kurdistan. I think even Qizqapan is more likely to be Parthian than Mede.
    I guess i can fo that tomorrow. Which languages were you looking for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro View Post
    I believe there are shared kurdi-pashto words to exclusion of persian because both kurds and many pashtuns have more Parthian ancestry
    This is very generalizing since many Persians are not originally Persian speaking.

    A "Persian" from Semnan is surely more Parthian derived genetically than a Western and Levantine shifted Kurd and especially than a Baloch.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semnani_language

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