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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    This is very generalizing since many Persians are not originally Persian speaking.

    A "Persian" from Semnan is surely more Parthian derived genetically than a Western and Levantine shifted Kurd and especially than a Baloch.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semnani_language
    Fair enough or we can alternatively say that Kurds Genetics became more western shifted as they moved west but their language did not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    This is very generalizing since many Persians are not originally Persian speaking.

    A "Persian" from Semnan is surely more Parthian derived genetically than a Western and Levantine shifted Kurd and especially than a Baloch.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semnani_language
    Fair enough or we can alternatively say that Kurds Genetics became more western shifted as they moved west but their language did not

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    I've found 2 gedmatch kits while looking at my matches, father and son. Father is Circassian and his son is half Circassian half something else. (Probably eastern turk, udi,azeri or kurd)

    Father (Circassian)

    YDNA: G-P15

    Population
    Gedrosia 19.65 Pct
    Siberian 1.81 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 5.12 Pct
    North_European 16.58 Pct
    South_Asian 1.65 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 3.79 Pct
    East_Asian 1.47 Pct
    Caucasus 49.93 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Nart_dad
    2.92882229 Circassian
    3.33701963 Ossetian
    5.80532514 Kumyks
    6.80089700 Ingush
    7.28094774 Abkhazian
    7.50237296 Balkar
    7.51551728 Karachay
    9.00116659 Chechen
    10.70070091 Georgian_Svan

    Target: Nart_dad
    Distance: 1.4116% / 1.41162032 | ADC: 0.25x
    59.0 Circassian
    30.4 Abkhazian
    10.0 Chechen
    0.6 Pulliyar

    His Son (Half Circassian + Half Eastern Turk or Udi ???)

    YDNA: G-P15

    Population
    Gedrosia 19.32 Pct
    Siberian 2.45 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.42 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 8.04 Pct
    North_European 11.74 Pct
    South_Asian 2.24 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 8.72 Pct
    East_Asian 0.52 Pct
    Caucasus 46.55 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Nart
    5.81986254 Udi_Azerbaijan
    6.42635978 Turk_East
    8.03914175 Turk_Ahiska
    8.26271142 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    8.42146068 Circassian
    8.66173770 Ossetian
    9.33583954 Armenian_East
    9.50373085 Zaza
    9.59067255 Ingush
    9.73625185 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    9.84968527 Azerbaijani_Iran
    9.89430139 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    9.90614961 Azerbaijani

    Target: Nart
    Distance: 1.1512% / 1.15120499 | ADC: 0.25x
    42.2 Udi_Azerbaijan
    38.4 Ossetian
    18.4 Turk_East
    1.0 Pulliyar

    I made an unofficial result for his mom according to their results.

    Her results:

    Distance to: Nart_mom(unofficial)
    4.12223240 Turk_East
    5.78962002 Udi_Azerbaijan
    5.84786286 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    6.06714101 Zaza
    6.50724212 Turk_Southeast
    6.88393783 Kurd_Kurmanji
    6.90785061 Azerbaijani_Iran
    7.02906110 Turk_Central_East
    7.11775948 Azerbaijani
    7.75788631 Turkmen_Iraq
    8.01565967 Armenian_East
    8.39895827 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
    8.53022274 Talysh_Azerbaijan

    Target: Nart_mom(unofficial)
    Distance: 1.6437% / 1.64373752 | ADC: 0.25x
    57.6 Turk_East
    20.8 Kurd_Kurmanji
    4.4 Iranian_Jew
    4.2 Assyrian_North
    3.6 Nusayri_Turkey
    3.0 Azeri_Jew
    3.0 Balkan_Gypsy
    1.6 Greek_Cappadocia
    1.4 Ket
    0.4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews

    Target: Nart_mom(unofficial)
    Distance: 2.5828% / 2.58278604 | ADC: 0.5x
    68.0 Turk_East
    15.4 Kurd_Kurmanji
    9.4 Turk_Southeast
    7.2 Iraqi_Baghdad

    Here are their k12b vahaduo codes:
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    Nart,19.32,2.45,0.42,0,8.04,11.74,2.24,0,8.72,0.52,46.55,0
    Nart_dad,19.65,1.81,0,0,5.12,16.58,1.65,0,3.79,1.47,49.93,0
    Nart_mom(unofficial),18.99,3.09,0.84,0,10.96,6.9,2.83,0,13.65,0,43.17,0

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    Some Iranian American with high Gedrosia and somewhat high European. Also completely untouched by the bloody Mongoloids

    Population
    Gedrosia 30.87 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 6.64 Pct
    North_European 10.08 Pct

    South_Asian 6.36 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 11.13 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 34.84 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.07 Pct

    Distance to: Farhad
    6.51925609 Iranian_Fars
    6.97866033 Iran_Mazandaran
    7.67650311 Iran_Khorasan
    8.12956948 Iranian
    9.31126200 Lur_Iran
    10.13886088 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    10.30563438 Kurd_Sorani
    10.40585412 Kurd_Kurmanji
    10.99664949 Kurd_KAZ
    11.58227957 Azerbaijani_Iran

    Target: Farhad
    Distance: 3.0747% / 3.07466500 | ADC: 0.5x
    45.0 Iran_Mazandaran
    39.6 Iranian_Fars
    15.4 Yagnobi

    Target: Farhad
    Distance: 1.9291% / 1.92906607 | ADC: 0.25x
    65.8 Iran_Mazandaran
    17.8 Iranian_Fars
    7.2 Yagnobi
    5.0 French
    1.8 Iran_Bandari
    1.6 Pashtun_Kandahar
    0.8 Jatt

    Target: Farhad
    Distance: 1.0998% / 1.09975293
    53.0 Iran_Mazandaran
    28.2 Kurd_KAZ
    8.8 Sindhi
    4.6 Dutch
    2.8 Mixed_NW_Euro
    1.8 Tabasaran
    0.8 Saudis

    Irrelevant but his wife is Mexican
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    Iranian result (lots of Turkish and Azerbaijani matches, so I'm guessing some kind of Iranian Turk):
    YDNA: L

    Gedrosian: 25.06
    Siberian: 4.06
    Northwest_African: 0.40
    Southeast_Asian: 0.87
    Atlantic_Med: 6.00
    North_European: 7.38
    South_Asian: 4.70
    East_African: 0.11
    Southwest_Asian: 11.30
    East_Asian: 2.87
    Caucasian: 37.36
    Sub-Saharan: 0.00

    Distance to: FK
    4.99352581 Azerbaijani_Iran
    5.97703940 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.06770138 Iranian
    6.22106904 Kurd_Kurmanji
    6.23411582 Iranian_Fars
    6.32129734 Azerbaijani
    6.87106251 Lur_Iran
    6.97360739 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    6.98555653 Kurd_Sorani
    7.15907815 Iran_Khorasan
    7.52044547 Zaza
    8.39145994 Kurd_KAZ
    8.39545710 Turkmen_Iraq
    9.22726395 Iran_Mazandaran
    9.41289010 Turk_Southeast
    11.03340383 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    11.80185579 Udi_Azerbaijan
    12.04217173 Turkmens
    12.06177848 Turk_South
    12.27876215 Turk_Central_East
    12.51754768 Turkmen_Iran
    12.72581235 Turk_East
    13.05498755 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    13.55804558 Turk_Anatolia
    13.95182784 Turk_Central_West

    Target: FK
    Distance: 1.0346% / 1.03463755 | ADC: 0.25x
    37.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
    34.0 Iranian
    26.2 Iran_Khorasan
    1.4 Evenk
    0.6 Talysh_Azerbaijan

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    With nearly 8% Mongoloid that must be a Turk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Some Iranian American with high Gedrosia and somewhat high European. Also completely untouched by the bloody Mongoloids
    Almost the same results

    Gedrosia 29.88 Pct
    Siberian 0.19 Pct
    Northwest_African 1.50 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 6.06 Pct
    North_European 9.41 Pct
    South_Asian 4.94 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 11.82 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 36.20 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Wait, that's literally the same person.

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    This Iranian is paternally O3a3c1*

    Gedrosia 28.67 Pct
    Siberian 1.09 Pct
    Northwest_African 2.72 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 4.27 Pct
    North_European 7.19 Pct
    South_Asian 4.21 Pct
    East_African 0.25 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 11.27 Pct
    East_Asian 2.57 Pct
    Caucasus 37.47 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.27 Pct

    Distance to: Khoramdin
    5.10084307 Iranian
    5.32013158 Iranian_Fars
    5.78705452 Iran_Mazandaran
    6.11757305 Lur_Iran
    6.51367792 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.65237218 Kurd_KAZ
    7.80935977 Kurd_Kurmanji
    7.80940459 Kurd_Sorani
    8.26175526 Iran_Khorasan
    8.47099168 Azerbaijani_Iran

    Target: Khoramdin
    Distance: 2.8830% / 2.88296085 | ADC: 0.5x
    33.8 Iranian_Fars
    32.6 Iran_Mazandaran
    24.6 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    8.0 Turkmens
    1.0 Iranian

    Target: Khoramdin
    Distance: 1.7131% / 1.71314978 | ADC: 0.25x
    58.0 Iran_Mazandaran
    21.0 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.8 Turkmens
    5.4 Iranian_Fars
    3.6 Algerian
    2.8 Iranian
    1.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    1.2 Korean

    Target: Khoramdin
    Distance: 1.1137% / 1.11372869
    70.2 Iran_Mazandaran
    16.6 Kurd_KAZ
    5.6 Algerian
    4.0 Lak
    2.2 Korean
    0.8 Mongol
    0.6 Georgian_Svan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post

    This Iranian is paternally O3a3c1*

    Mongol or some old clade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Mongol or some old clade?
    I don't know to be honest. I associate O3 with East Asians like the Chinese etc.

    Is 15% South Asian normal in Eastern Iran? I've seen a couple of kits with such high scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I don't know to be honest. I associate O3 with East Asians like the Chinese etc.

    Is 15% South Asian normal in Eastern Iran? I've seen a couple of kits with such high scores.
    I dont think it's normal. Would definetly be extremely high. Probably Afghan matches. Send me the kits if you stumple upon one, normally Iranian and Afghan names can be distinguished in how they are written.

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