South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results - vol.2

[Peterski]

Bulgarian from Targoviste:

Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 21.66 Pct
Baltic 20.11 Pct
West_Med 19.01 Pct
West_Asian 12.66 Pct
East_Med 22.58 Pct
Red_Sea 0.14 Pct
South_Asian 0.22 Pct
East_Asian 1.35 Pct
Siberian 1.20 Pct
Amerindian 0.34 Pct
Oceanian 0.39 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.35 Pct

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.58
2 North_Atlantic 21.66
3 Baltic 20.11
4 West_Med 19.01
5 West_Asian 12.66
6 East_Asian 1.35
7 Siberian 1.2
8 Oceanian 0.39
9 Sub-Saharan 0.35
10 Amerindian 0.34
11 South_Asian 0.22
12 Red_Sea 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.74
2 Greek_Thessaly 6.37
3 Romanian 6.73
4 Serbian 10.98
5 Italian_Abruzzo 12.19
6 Tuscan 12.4
7 Central_Greek 12.6
8 West_Sicilian 13.74
9 East_Sicilian 14.12
10 North_Italian 14.32
11 Ashkenazi 15.83
12 Moldavian 16.68
13 South_Italian 16.72
14 Hungarian 18.95
15 Croatian 19.67
16 Austrian 21.21
17 Portuguese 21.32
18 Spanish_Extremadura 22.05
19 Spanish_Galicia 22.27
20 French 22.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.1% Bulgarian + 18.9% South_Italian @ 2.78
2 75.7% Bulgarian + 24.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.81
3 78% Bulgarian + 22% West_Sicilian @ 2.86
4 76.8% Bulgarian + 23.2% Central_Greek @ 2.96
5 86% Bulgarian + 14% Italian_Jewish @ 3.07
6 60.9% Bulgarian + 39.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.12
7 79.6% Bulgarian + 20.4% East_Sicilian @ 3.16
8 86.4% Bulgarian + 13.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.18
9 73.5% Romanian + 26.5% South_Italian @ 3.21
10 67.3% Romanian + 32.7% Central_Greek @ 3.22
11 86.5% Bulgarian + 13.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.23
12 82.1% Bulgarian + 17.9% Ashkenazi @ 3.34
13 51.9% Greek_Thessaly + 48.1% Romanian @ 3.36
14 78.3% Bulgarian + 21.7% Tuscan @ 3.39
15 89.5% Bulgarian + 10.5% Cyprian @ 3.44
16 88.9% Bulgarian + 11.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.45
17 62.3% South_Italian + 37.7% Ukrainian @ 3.46
18 82.8% Romanian + 17.2% Cyprian @ 3.52
19 61.8% South_Italian + 38.2% South_Polish @ 3.55
20 89.4% Bulgarian + 10.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.56

Eurogenes K15:

Population
North_Sea 18.67 Pct
Atlantic 10.76 Pct
Baltic 12.64 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.43 Pct
West_Med 14.56 Pct
West_Asian 11.91 Pct
East_Med 20.20 Pct
Red_Sea 0.37 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 1.36 Pct
Siberian 0.58 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.29 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.21 Pct

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 20.2
2 North_Sea 18.67
3 West_Med 14.56
4 Baltic 12.64
5 West_Asian 11.91
6 Atlantic 10.76
7 Eastern_Euro 8.43
8 Southeast_Asian 1.36
9 Siberian 0.58
10 Red_Sea 0.37
11 Oceanian 0.29
12 Sub-Saharan 0.21
13 South_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 7.1
2 Bulgarian 8.44
3 Romanian 8.53
4 Greek 10.5
5 Serbian 10.81
6 Central_Greek 13.08
7 Italian_Abruzzo 13.11
8 Tuscan 13.18
9 Ashkenazi 13.36
10 East_Sicilian 14.32
11 Moldavian 15.25
12 West_Sicilian 15.29
13 North_Italian 15.56
14 South_Italian 16.55
15 Hungarian 16.79
16 Croatian 17.95
17 Austrian 18.17
18 Italian_Jewish 20.21
19 Spanish_Galicia 20.57
20 French 20.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.6% Greek_Thessaly + 16.4% Finnish @ 4.66
2 84% Greek_Thessaly + 16% North_Swedish @ 4.68
3 84.6% Greek_Thessaly + 15.4% East_Finnish @ 4.84
4 84.1% Greek_Thessaly + 15.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.93
5 84.7% Greek_Thessaly + 15.3% Swedish @ 4.93
6 76% Greek_Thessaly + 24% Hungarian @ 4.97
7 85.7% Greek_Thessaly + 14.3% Estonian @ 5.02
8 85.1% Greek_Thessaly + 14.9% Norwegian @ 5.03
9 85.9% Greek_Thessaly + 14.1% West_Norwegian @ 5.06
10 82.5% Greek_Thessaly + 17.5% Ukrainian @ 5.15
11 74.8% Greek_Thessaly + 25.2% Moldavian @ 5.21
12 66.3% Greek_Thessaly + 33.7% Serbian @ 5.23
13 86.1% Greek_Thessaly + 13.9% La_Brana-1 @ 5.24
14 82.3% Greek_Thessaly + 17.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.26
15 83% Greek_Thessaly + 17% South_Polish @ 5.27
16 85.8% Greek_Thessaly + 14.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.28
17 81.1% Greek_Thessaly + 18.9% East_German @ 5.31
18 86.6% Greek_Thessaly + 13.4% Erzya @ 5.35
19 81.5% Greek_Thessaly + 18.5% West_German @ 5.37
20 84.9% Greek_Thessaly + 15.1% Polish @ 5.38

[Leto]

Bulgarian from Targoviste:

Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 21.66 Pct
Baltic 20.11 Pct
West_Med 19.01 Pct
West_Asian 12.66 Pct
East_Med 22.58 Pct
Red_Sea 0.14 Pct
South_Asian 0.22 Pct
East_Asian 1.35 Pct
Siberian 1.20 Pct
Amerindian 0.34 Pct
Oceanian 0.39 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.35 Pct

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.58
2 North_Atlantic 21.66
3 Baltic 20.11
4 West_Med 19.01
5 West_Asian 12.66
6 East_Asian 1.35
7 Siberian 1.2
8 Oceanian 0.39
9 Sub-Saharan 0.35
10 Amerindian 0.34
11 South_Asian 0.22
12 Red_Sea 0.14

Some Old Bulgar thing going on How much on Dodecad?

[Peterski]

Some Old Bulgar thing going on How much on Dodecad?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 30.7
2 Caucasus 28.33
3 Atlantic_Med 25.27
4 Southwest_Asian 6.67
5 Gedrosia 5.81
6 Siberian 1.29
7 Northwest_African 1.09
8 East_Asian 0.4
9 South_Asian 0.2
10 Southeast_Asian 0.14
11 Sub_Saharan 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 5.06
2 Romanians (Behar) 5.9
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 6.06
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 11.4
5 Greek (Dodecad) 13.45
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 15.94
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.35
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 16.45
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 16.99
10 Hungarians (Behar) 19.94
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 19.94
12 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.96
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.14
14 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.15
15 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.31
16 German (Dodecad) 24.62
17 French (Dodecad) 26.07
18 French (HGDP) 26.12
19 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 26.27
20 Baleares (1000Genomes) 27.07

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 28.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.6
2 62.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 37.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.6
3 65.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.65
4 93% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 7% Brahui (HGDP) @ 2.71
5 92.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 7.7% Makrani (HGDP) @ 2.73
6 92.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 7.4% Balochi (HGDP) @ 2.83
7 63.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 36.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.92
8 64.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 35.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.93
9 65.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.6% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.94
10 50% Hungarians (Behar) + 50% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.96
11 84.6% Romanians (Behar) + 15.4% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.05
12 65.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.1
13 79.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.14
14 68.7% Romanians (Behar) + 31.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.14
15 80.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 19.7% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.15
16 80% Romanians (Behar) + 20% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.16
17 64.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 35.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.17
18 84% Romanians (Behar) + 16% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.19
19 80.1% Romanians (Behar) + 19.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.22
20 80.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 19.5% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 3.25

[CommonSense]

Similar to Šokac woman I tested. I wonder what would Commonsense say now, because he said it's hard to believe Šokci descend from Bosnia based on her results. And this Bosniak is similary highly Slavic.

So why should we take an outlier as the exemplar for some alleged medieval Bosnian genetic average?

That being said, it's understated how diverse Bosniaks are as a modern ethnic group. Both a person such as this and an assimilated Albanian from Tutin will swear they are ancient Illyrians and the exact same people with the same kind of ancestry.

[CommonSense]

I personally gave up. If people want to fake their country's and/or personal results because of insecurities, then they can be my guests. Commercial tests are still there for that benchmark that none of us hasn't got any access to modify. Want to have a Serbian average in Ukrainian range? Sign me up.

What the heck is that supposed to mean? Is there an issue you'd like to share with us?

[Ion Basescul]

What the heck is that supposed to mean? Is there an issue you'd like to share with us?

I have trust issues with you lot.
For example, I always disclose my individual results that make the averages for Romania and Moldova, same goes for my Bulgarian averages. Dunai did the same for his Hungarian averages.
But I can't say the same about those that come from the rest of the Balkans. I just see the averages.

[Leto]

I have the Gedmatch of a Bulgarian from Odessa oblast. He is a very old Russian Orthodox priest, somewhat famous in Orthodox circles. If anyone's interested, I can post the results but I'd like to not share the number publicly. Not that he personally cares at the age of 86.

[vbnetkhio]

If anyone's interested, I can post the results

of course we are interested, why even ask

[Leto]

of course we are interested, why even ask

Okay, I'll post him. He is very Southern, I thought he was some type of Rumyn/Moldovan because the region has them too but then I learned he was from a Bulgarian village. His grandchildren are pretty much Russian though, totally assimilated.

[Leto]

I have the Gedmatch of a Bulgarian from Odessa oblast. He is a very old Russian Orthodox priest, somewhat famous in Orthodox circles. If anyone's interested, I can post the results but I'd like to not share the number publicly. Not that he personally cares at the age of 86.

Alright, here he is:

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Spoiler!

North_Atlantic 19.87 Pct
Baltic 21.14 Pct
West_Med 16.90 Pct
West_Asian 13.54 Pct
East_Med 23.31 Pct
Red_Sea 2.10 Pct
South_Asian 1.79 Pct
East_Asian 0.80 Pct
Siberian 0.13 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.32 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.10 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.74
2 Greek_Thessaly 6.26
3 Romanian 7.11
4 Serbian 11.33
5 Central_Greek 12.38
6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.63
7 East_Sicilian 13.79
8 Tuscan 14.16
9 West_Sicilian 14.49
10 Ashkenazi 15.15
11 Moldavian 16.55
12 North_Italian 16.73
13 South_Italian 16.8
14 Hungarian 19.39
15 Croatian 19.65
16 Austrian 22.07
17 Sephardic_Jewish 22.2
18 Italian_Jewish 22.2
19 Algerian_Jewish 22.28
20 Portuguese 23.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.4% Bulgarian + 11.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 1.61
2 88.1% Bulgarian + 11.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.76
3 88.7% Bulgarian + 11.3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 1.78
4 88.2% Bulgarian + 11.8% Assyrian @ 1.85
5 86.9% Bulgarian + 13.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.93
6 88.9% Bulgarian + 11.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.1
7 86.4% Bulgarian + 13.6% Cyprian @ 2.17
8 87.5% Bulgarian + 12.5% Syrian @ 2.19
9 64% South_Italian + 36% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.22
10 88.8% Bulgarian + 11.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.23
11 70.8% Central_Greek + 29.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.29
12 88.9% Bulgarian + 11.1% Samaritan @ 2.3
13 89.1% Bulgarian + 10.9% Armenian @ 2.32
14 86% Bulgarian + 14% Turkish @ 2.39
15 83% Romanian + 17% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.39
16 80% Romanian + 20% Cyprian @ 2.39
17 70.8% Central_Greek + 29.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.43
18 89% Bulgarian + 11% Palestinian @ 2.44
19 83.5% Romanian + 16.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.47
20 83.5% Romanian + 16.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.48

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Spoiler!

North_Sea 9.49 Pct
Atlantic 16.20 Pct
Baltic 15.51 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.51 Pct
West_Med 12.50 Pct
West_Asian 13.54 Pct
East_Med 19.82 Pct
Red_Sea 2.39 Pct
South_Asian 1.51 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.32 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.17 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.83
2 Greek 6.53
3 Romanian 7.68
4 Greek_Thessaly 8.93
5 Serbian 11.81
6 Italian_Abruzzo 11.9
7 Central_Greek 12.09
8 Ashkenazi 12.63
9 Tuscan 13.17
10 East_Sicilian 13.25
11 West_Sicilian 13.7
12 South_Italian 15.27
13 Moldavian 15.88
14 North_Italian 16.29
15 Croatian 17.39
16 Austrian 17.67
17 Hungarian 18.78
18 Sephardic_Jewish 19.71
19 Italian_Jewish 19.72
20 Algerian_Jewish 20.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.7% Bulgarian + 11.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.68
2 89.4% Bulgarian + 10.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.9
3 87.3% Bulgarian + 12.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.92
4 88.6% Bulgarian + 11.4% Assyrian @ 2.92
5 89.5% Bulgarian + 10.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.97
6 88.6% Bulgarian + 11.4% Kurdish @ 3.02
7 86.8% Bulgarian + 13.2% Cyprian @ 3.03
8 85.8% Bulgarian + 14.2% Turkish @ 3.08
9 89.6% Bulgarian + 10.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.08
10 89.2% Bulgarian + 10.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.09
11 87.6% Bulgarian + 12.4% Azeri @ 3.14
12 89.2% Bulgarian + 10.8% Iranian @ 3.14
13 88.2% Bulgarian + 11.8% Syrian @ 3.17
14 81.7% Greek + 18.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.2
15 89.6% Bulgarian + 10.4% Samaritan @ 3.23
16 89.7% Bulgarian + 10.3% Armenian @ 3.3
17 89.9% Bulgarian + 10.1% Palestinian @ 3.31
18 81.9% Greek + 18.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.31
19 82.3% Greek + 17.7% Southwest_Russian @ 3.35
20 87.1% Bulgarian + 12.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.39

Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions

Spoiler!

Amerindian -
Arabian 0.63 Pct
Armenian 2.08 Pct
Basque 0.30 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.14 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.95 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 10.30 Pct
East_Med 8.87 Pct
Eastern_Euro 6.53 Pct
Fennoscandian 0.57 Pct
French 2.78 Pct
Iberian 4.72 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 22.66 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 7.90 Pct
North_African 0.91 Pct
North_Atlantic 0.85 Pct
North_Caucasian 7.52 Pct
North_Sea 4.82 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 0.37 Pct
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.78 Pct
West_Med 4.32 Pct

MDLP K23b Oracle results:

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.39
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 25.96
3 European_Early_Farmers 18.76
4 Near_East 7.92
5 South_Central_Asian 4.36
6 South_Indian 1.59
7 North_African 1.46
8 Australoid 1.07
9 Paleo_Siberian 0.75
10 Arctic 0.44
11 Ancestral_Altaic 0.43
12 Tungus-Altaic 0.29
13 Amerindian 0.26
14 African_Pygmy 0.19
15 Archaic_Human 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Macedonian ( ) 3.42
2 Bulgarian ( ) 4.06
3 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 5.75
4 Montenegrian ( ) 5.88
5 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 6.14
6 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 6.94
7 Gagauz ( ) 6.95
8 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 6.95
9 Romanian ( ) 7.05
10 Greek_Northwest ( ) 7.08
11 Serb_BH ( ) 7.64
12 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 7.7
13 Croat ( ) 7.93
14 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 8.13
15 Ashkenazi ( ) 8.17
16 Bosnian ( ) 8.2
17 Kosovar ( ) 8.36
18 Croat_BH ( ) 8.39
19 Central_Greek ( ) 8.46
20 Serb_Serbia ( ) 8.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.2% Greek_Islands ( ) + 49.8% Czech ( ) @ 1.91
2 52.4% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) + 47.6% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 2.05
3 64.3% Serb_BH ( ) + 35.7% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.08
4 63.3% Croat ( ) + 36.7% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.11
5 51.7% Greek_Islands ( ) + 48.3% Slovak ( ) @ 2.14
6 89.2% Macedonian ( ) + 10.8% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 2.16
7 58.2% Greek ( ) + 41.8% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) @ 2.16
8 89.1% Macedonian ( ) + 10.9% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2.18
9 60.6% Greek ( ) + 39.4% Czech ( ) @ 2.19
10 68.5% Greek ( ) + 31.5% German ( ) @ 2.19
11 90.5% Macedonian ( ) + 9.5% Iraqi_Jew ( ) @ 2.19
12 79.5% Macedonian ( ) + 20.5% Cretan ( ) @ 2.2
13 62.6% Bosnian ( ) + 37.4% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.26
14 83.7% Macedonian ( ) + 16.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.26
15 58.1% Serb_BH ( ) + 41.9% Cretan ( ) @ 2.28
16 89.3% Macedonian ( ) + 10.7% Samaritian ( ) @ 2.28
17 88% Macedonian ( ) + 12% Lebanese_Muslim ( ) @ 2.29
18 58.7% Greek_Islands ( ) + 41.3% German ( ) @ 2.3
19 91.2% Macedonian ( ) + 8.8% Iranian_Jew ( ) @ 2.31
20 87.9% Macedonian ( ) + 12.1% Cypriot ( ) @ 2.32

Dodecad K12b Admixture Proportions + Vahaduo

Spoiler!

Gedrosia 4.47 Pct
Siberian 0.18 Pct
Northwest_African 0.80 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.36 Pct
Atlantic_Med 25.08 Pct
North_European 29.20 Pct
South_Asian 1.16 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.14 Pct
East_Asian 0.63 Pct
Caucasus 29.98 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: SD
3.62512069 Greek_Macedonia
4.37853857 MD_Gagauz
4.64318856 Turk_Macedonia
4.70262693 Greek_Thessaloniki
5.11156532 Albanian_North
5.18867999 Albanian_Kosovo
5.25898279 Bulgarian
5.27073050 Turk_Greece
5.31080973 Greek_Thessaly
5.69304839 Greek_Thrace

Target: SD
Distance: 2.2106% / 2.21061052 | ADC: 0.5x
46.6 Greek_Macedonia
43.2 Greek_Thessaloniki
10.2 Pomak

Target: SD
Distance: 1.4940% / 1.49395028 | ADC: 0.25x
55.4 Greek_Thessaloniki
43.2 Pomak
1.2 Georgian_Mingrelian
0.2 Pulliyar

Target: SD
Distance: 1.0697% / 1.06969622
35.0 Greek_Thessaloniki
25.2 Albanian_North
21.2 Greek_Athens
12.4 Lithuanian
4.4 Georgian_Mingrelian
0.8 Pulliyar
0.8 Yemen_Jews
0.2 Korean