South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results - vol.2

[MandM]

That didn't stop a lot of declaratively unmixed Romanians from Transylvania to look like they mixed with Hungarians, when compared to those in Muntenia. I don't see why it would be any different in Serbia. But if you are saying that Vojvodina received people from the South, then I suppose that would offset this Hungarian influence.

Hungsrian influence would be at the top of vojvodina, I have a friend from serbia, he is from sombor, he is half serb half hungarian

[Jana]

South Dalmatian and Herzegovina Croats have ancient Serbian origin.
Back to the historical maps of Balkans of early medieval age.

I doubt it, since they are not different from other southern Croats and their ydna generally has no connections with Sorbs neither with Bohemia/Saxony.

Deal with it.

[Chris596]

By the way, how can I find out if these two components, Balkan Turks (Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi, Turk_Razgrad) represent West Asian or ,,regular'' Balkan ancestry here? I know they also have some East Asian admixture hidden in them. Are there people who get similar results on K13? Serbians, Croats, Romanians, Moldovans, and so on?

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.7939% / 1.79388025 | ADC: 0.25x
63.0 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
18.2 Romania_Moldavia_North
9.0 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
5.6 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
3.0 Turk_Razgrad
0.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod
0.4 She

[Dušan]

I doubt it, since they are not different from other southern Croats and their ydna generally has no connections with Sorbs neither with Bohemia/Saxony.

Deal with it.

Closer to southeastern Serbs than to northwestern Croats.

[vbnetkhio]

That didn't stop a lot of declaratively unmixed Romanians from Transylvania to look like they mixed with Hungarians, when compared to those in Muntenia. I don't see why it would be any different in Serbia. But if you are saying that Vojvodina received people from the South, then I suppose that would offset this Hungarian influence.

I was just saying the original Serb element in Vojvodina surely weren't the Serbs with the most Early Slav/Early Serb (and least Vlach) influence, like some would assume (just because it's geographically the northernmost region.)

The early history of Serbs in Vojvodina is very complicated, and not researched enough, the first mentions go back to the 12th century.
but i think it's safe to say most of the Serbs in Vojvodina originate from the 2 great migrations from regions further south in the 17th and 18th centuries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_...s_of_the_Serbs

some Hungarian influence which entered the Serbian gene pool and can't be separetd from it anymore - it's possible.

but i would need much more samples to see that. i currently have only 8 Vojvodina Serbs.

[Varda]

Serbian woman. Her father is native of Vojvodina (Bačka), and he mother is from Kokori near Prnjavor in Bosnia (Republika Srpska).

North_Atlantic 27.36
Baltic 32.7
West_Med 15.97
West_Asian 6.47
East_Med 12.02
Red_Sea 2.68
South_Asian 0
East_Asian 0
Siberian 2.11
Amerindian 0.39
Oceanian 0.3
Northeast_African 0
Sub-Saharan 0

1 Moldavian 0.529
2 Croatian 0.533
3 Hungarian 0.674
4 Serbian 0.727
5 Austrian 1.130
6 Romanian 1.180
7 East_German 1.192
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 1.219

Original post https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?t...0891#msg130891

[Jana]

Closer to southeastern Serbs than to northwestern Croats.

Okay, we have no problem with that. They are Balkan/SE European people, while Panonnian Croats are central Europeans.

[Leto]

Serbian woman. Her father is native of Vojvodina (Bačka), and he mother is from Kokori near Prnjavor in Bosnia (Republika Srpska).

North_Atlantic 27.36
Baltic 32.7
West_Med 15.97
West_Asian 6.47
East_Med 12.02
Red_Sea 2.68
South_Asian 0
East_Asian 0
Siberian 2.11
Amerindian 0.39
Oceanian 0.3
Northeast_African 0
Sub-Saharan 0

1 Moldavian 0.529
2 Croatian 0.533
3 Hungarian 0.674
4 Serbian 0.727
5 Austrian 1.130
6 Romanian 1.180
7 East_German 1.192
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 1.219

Original post https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?t...0891#msg130891

Interesting results. Even a bit of Mongoloid spice.
I typically "celebrate" Mongoloid traces in other (Eastern) Europeans not because I like it very much but because I don't feel so alone with that

[Moje ime]

By the way, how can I find out if these two components, Balkan Turks (Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi, Turk_Razgrad) represent West Asian or ,,regular'' Balkan ancestry here? I know they also have some East Asian admixture hidden in them. Are there people who get similar results on K13? Serbians, Croats, Romanians, Moldovans, and so on?

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.7939% / 1.79388025 | ADC: 0.25x
63.0 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
18.2 Romania_Moldavia_North
9.0 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
5.6 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
3.0 Turk_Razgrad
0.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod
0.4 She

There is no Turkic admixture in South Slavs and Balkan. That is probably related with your Hungarian ancestry.

[Dušan]

By the way, how can I find out if these two components, Balkan Turks (Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi, Turk_Razgrad) represent West Asian or ,,regular'' Balkan ancestry here? I know they also have some East Asian admixture hidden in them. Are there people who get similar results on K13? Serbians, Croats, Romanians, Moldovans, and so on?

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.7939% / 1.79388025 | ADC: 0.25x
63.0 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
18.2 Romania_Moldavia_North
9.0 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
5.6 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
3.0 Turk_Razgrad
0.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod
0.4 She

These two indeed have Turkic admixture. South Slavs dont have that.

Target: Turk_Razgrad
Distance: 2.2109% / 2.21090479 | ADC: 0.25x
64.0 Bulgarian
21.8 Romanian
7.6 Turkmen
3.4 Uygur
2.6 La_Brana-1
0.4 Austroasiatic_Ho
0.2 Yoruban

Target: Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
Distance: 2.4581% / 2.45811299 | ADC: 0.25x
43.6 Bulgarian
30.8 Nogay
10.8 Balkar
9.4 North_Italian
5.4 Italian_Abruzzo