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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Afrian admixture is really that prevalent in Cyprus? Why did the Ottomans bring Sudanese to the island?
    IDk about SSA but almost all Cypriot results I've seen have a lot of North African

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    A Turk, if I am not wrong father from western Turkey(Denizli?) mother Turkish Cypriot+ Afyon

    Gedrosia: 11.49 Pct
    Siberian: 2.97 Pct
    Northwest_African: -
    Southeast_Asian: -
    Atlantic_Med: 17.58 Pct
    North_European: 13.93 Pct
    South_Asian: 2.20 Pct
    East_African: -
    Southwest_Asian: 11.63 Pct
    East_Asian: 2.09 Pct
    Caucasus: 35.97 Pct
    Sub_Saharan : -
    This guy is half Balkan Turk from Kastoria if I recall correctly
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Afrian admixture is really that prevalent in Cyprus? Why did the Ottomans bring Sudanese to the island?
    What i saw is that at least every Cypriot has visible North Africa(3-5%), Ssa varies from person to person, same amount like North African. But the highest Ssa had a Turk in my knowledge. But i don’t know why especially Cyprus were a place where Ottomans settled Africans, maybe because agriculture? The question is why most lf them don’t show any east eurasian. For example Ahiska Turks never mentioned in Ottoman archives(at least regarding their origin), but it is well documented that Taurus Yörüks were settled to Cyprus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    What i saw is that at least every Cypriot has visible North Africa(3-5%), Ssa varies from person to person, same amount like North African. But the highest Ssa had a Turk in my knowledge. But i don’t know why especially Cyprus were a place where Ottomans settled Africans, maybe because agriculture? The question is why most lf them don’t show any east eurasian. For example Ahiska Turks never mentioned in Ottoman archives(at least regarding their origin), but it is well documented that Taurus Yörüks were settled to Cyprus.
    The Greek Cypriots are the true Cypriots, the Turks are much more recent migrants in Cyprus as far as I know.
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    Greek_Cypriot,8.86,0.14,3.25,0.13,20.88,3.81,0.33,0.37,18.23,0.26,43.72,0
    They are heavily Levantine.

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    Turk, it seems that this Person has roots from Balkan. Also i noticed that they often have high NW-African.

    Gedrosia: 3.71
    Siberian: -
    Northwest_African: 4.75
    Southeast_Asian: -
    Atlantic_Med: 24.14 Pct
    North_European: 21.06 Pct
    South_Asian: -
    East_African: -

    Southwest_Asian: 9.09 Pct
    East_Asian: 2.32 Pct
    Caucasus: 34.64 Pct
    Sub_Saharan : -

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    Turkish Cypriot-Larnaca
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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 42.6
    2 Atlantic_Med 18.41
    3 Southwest_Asian 16.56
    4 Gedrosia 9.42
    5 North_European 6.48
    6 Northwest_African 4.21
    7 East_African 1.15
    8 East_Asian 0.84
    9 Sub_Saharan 0.33

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Cypriots (Behar) 7.83
    2 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 9.45
    3 Lebanese (Behar) 9.72
    4 Turkish (Dodecad) 11.19
    5 Druze (HGDP) 11.66
    6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 11.81
    7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 12.36
    8 Turks (Behar) 12.89
    9 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 13.02
    10 Syrians (Behar) 14.1
    11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.12
    12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.55
    13 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 15.02
    14 Jordanians (Behar) 15.22
    15 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 15.76
    16 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.77
    17 Assyrian (Dodecad) 15.96
    18 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 16.19
    19 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.56
    20 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.31

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 63% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 37% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.18
    2 58.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 41.4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.21
    3 59.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 40.2% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.35
    4 54.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 45.5% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.42
    5 57.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 42.6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.5
    6 56.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 43.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.81
    7 52.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 47.9% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.85
    8 56.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 43.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.89
    9 57% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 43% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.91
    10 62.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 37.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.01
    11 69.1% Druze (HGDP) + 30.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.12
    12 66% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 34% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 3.15
    13 64.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 35.9% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.17
    14 55.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 44.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.18
    15 63.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 36.2% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 3.24
    16 52.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 47.9% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.25
    17 55% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 45% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.27
    18 75% Druze (HGDP) + 25% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.34
    19 58% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 42% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 3.36
    20 57.9% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 42.1% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 3.42

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    30 Turkish Cypriot kits

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    TC1,8.68,1.40,4.21,1.45,20.68,3.84,0,2.11,15.77,1.12,40.72,0
    TC2,8.32,0,2.49,0,18.77,18.1,0.38,1.56,11.99,2.84,35.56,0
    TC3,9.03,0,4.14,0.4,18.89,8,0.05,0.73,15.52,2.21,41.02,0
    TC4,9.80,1.36,3.42,0,19.56,4.11,0,3.51,16.50,0.82,39.76,1.16
    TC5,8.41,0,3.46,0.32,19.06,7.82,1.65,4.38,17.82,0,34.57,2.48
    TC6,12.06,3.68,2.20,1.58,16.98,10.17,1.88,1.37,13.10,0.37,35.86,0.77 
    TC7,8.70,0,4.43,0,19.64,6.81,0,1.72,19.43,1.24,38.03,0
    TC8,9.14,0.78,2.13,0,20.99,5.83,0,0.86,16.83,0.22,43.23,0
    TC9,10.01,0.08,2.85,0,20.90,5.03,0.42,0.48,18.07,1.77,40.29,0.11
    TC10,9.45,1.44,3.18,0,12.87,4.62,0.55,3.51,15.78,2.73,43.13,2.73
    TC11,11.67,1.63,0.88,0.29,17.18,7.13,0.67,1.30,14.76,1.74,40.68,2.07
    TC12,10.64,0,3.16,0,19.34,6.92,0.84,1.12,16.05,0.11,41.83,0
    TC13,9.01,1.41,3.89,0,20.62,7.39,0.30,0.66,13.29,1.35,42.07,0
    TC14,6.33,0,1.73,0.16,16.85,8.06,0,2.12,14.79,1.95,43.86,4.14 
    TC15,9.46,0,2.35,0,21.93,6.81,0,0.90,14.87,0,43.68,0
    TC16,7.12,0,3.81,0.75,18.35,4.9,0,2.41,17.91,0,44.50,0.24
    TC17,7.81,1.09,2.86,0.57,21.60,7.41,0.38,0.45,15.05,1.75,41.03,0
    TC18,8.87,0,5.78,0,18.88,4.72,0.90,1.72,17.08,0,41.59,0.45
    TC19,9.94,0,2.60,0.38,15.86,5.55,0.34,6.01,14.54,0.36,35.65,8.78
    TC20,7.8,0.86,4,0,18.67,8.2,0,1.25,16.7,1.64,40.5,0.28
    TC21,3.83,0.34,1.49,0,21.23,6.72,0.57,0,14.42,0.96,47.69,2.75
    TC22,6.33,0,1.73,0.16,16.85,8.06,0,2.12,14.79,1.95,43.86,4.14
    TC23,9.12,0,1.48,0,21.22,4.89 ,1.69,3.15,16.96,1.59,38.43,1.47 
    TC24,8.41,0,3.46,0.32,19.06,7.82,1.65,0,17.82,0.05,34.57,2.48
    TC25,7.56,0.81,4.00,1.23,21.14,6.30,0,2.83,16.85,0,38.22,1.04
    TC26,7.83,0.86,4.12,0,18.57,8.18,0,1.25,16.77,1.64,40.5,0.28
    TC27,11.69,0.25,1.40,0.26,13.55,16.02,1.23,1.60,13.21,3.93,36.85,0
    TC28,7.3,1.02,2.66,0.2,19.44,8.04,0,2.16,14.88,0.3,42.75,1.25
    TC29,9.2,0.5,3.94,0.31,20.49,6.45,0.54,0.56,15.76,0,42.25,0
    T30,9.42,0,4.21,0,18.41,6.48,0,1.15,16.56,0.84,42.6,0.33
    Avg: Turk_Cyprus,8.76,0.58,3.06,0.28,18.92,7.35,0.47,1. 77,15.8,1.12,40.51,1.23

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    Avg: Turk_Cyprus,8.61,6.323,17.834,20.461,33.956,6.322, 1.134,1.481,1.167,0.375,0.027,1.577,0.731

    Distance to: Turk_Cyprus
    5.37716989 Greek_Chios
    5.52474036 Greek_Dodecanese
    7.47811447 Greek_Crete
    8.41830007 Greek_North_Aegean
    8.60392910 Greek_Symi_Island

    Target: Turk_Cyprus
    Distance: 1.1855% / 1.18549640 | ADC: 0.25x
    28.6 Greek_Dodecanese
    19.8 Greek_Crete
    16.0 Greek_Cypriot
    12.6 Turk_North_West
    10.6 Greek_Cappadocian
    7.0 Jordanian
    3.2 Syrian
    1.4 Turk_Central_East
    0.4 Hadza
    0.2 Dai
    0.2 Sandawe

    Target: Turk_Cyprus
    Distance: 0.9260% / 0.92601470
    35.6 Greek_Cypriot
    20.4 Greek_Central_Macedonia
    17.0 Turk_South
    9.2 Samaritan
    8.2 Greek_Trabzon
    8.0 IT_Calabria
    1.6 Hadza

    Calabrian ancestry can be split into -
    Target: IT_Calabria
    Distance: 0.9564% / 0.95635426
    51.2 IT_Marche
    48.8 Greek_Cypriot
    0.0 IT_Veneto

    Hence, Turkish Cypriots are half native Cypriot (Greek Cypriot + Samaritan), 25% Turkish+additional Anatolian, 20% Greek mainlander, 4% Latin (from Venetian times perhaps) and 2% African.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amon View Post
    Avg for Dodecad K12b: Turk_Cyprus,8.76,0.58,3.06,0.28,18.92,7.35,0.47,1. 77,15.8,1.12,40.51,1.23
    Distance to: Turk_Cyprus
    5.81731038 Greek_Kos
    7.98369589 Nusayri_Turkey
    8.13006150 Syrian_A
    8.33311466 Greek_Crete
    8.50640935 Lebanese_Muslim
    8.72275759 Greek_Cappadocia

    Target: Turk_Cyprus
    Distance: 1.0004% / 1.00038159 | ADC: 0.25x
    52.0 Greek_Kos
    28.4 Syrian_A
    11.6 Cypriots
    6.0 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    0.8 Sandawe_He
    0.6 LWK30
    0.4 Egyptans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amon View Post
    Distance to: Turk_Cyprus
    That's the wrong Cypriot average ("Cypriots"), here's with the correct one

    Distance to: Turk_Cyprus
    5.81731038 Greek_Kos
    6.08904754 Greek_Cypriot
    7.98369589 Nusayri_Turkey
    8.13006150 Syrian_A
    8.33311466 Greek_Crete

    Target: Turk_Cyprus
    Distance: 2.2131% / 2.21312395 | ADC: 0.5x
    55.8 Greek_Kos
    31.6 Syrian_A
    9.6 Greek_Cypriot
    3.0 Turk_Central_Black_Sea

    Target: Turk_Cyprus
    Distance: 1.0872% / 1.08715821 | ADC: 0.25x
    43.4 Greek_Kos
    29.2 Greek_Cypriot
    17.8 Syrian_A
    4.2 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    2.8 Nogai
    1.2 Egyptans
    0.8 Sandawe_He
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    Turkish Cypriot 2-Larnaca
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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 34.57
    2 Atlantic_Med 19.06
    3 Southwest_Asian 17.82
    4 Gedrosia 8.41
    5 North_European 7.82
    6 East_African 4.38
    7 Northwest_African 3.46
    8 Sub_Saharan 2.48
    9 South_Asian 1.65
    10 Southeast_Asian 0.32
    11 East_Asian 0.05

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