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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Is he? My father's values

    North_Atlantic 28.42 Pct
    Baltic 31.99 Pct
    West_Med 15.48 Pct
    West_Asian 8.37 Pct
    East_Med 12.10 Pct
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian 1.59 Pct
    Siberian 0.53 Pct
    Amerindian 1.00 Pct

    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African 0.37 Pct
    Sub-Saharan 0.16 Pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Is he? My father's values

    North_Atlantic 28.42 Pct
    Baltic 31.99 Pct
    West_Med 15.48 Pct
    West_Asian 8.37 Pct
    East_Med 12.10 Pct
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian 1.59 Pct
    Siberian 0.53 Pct
    Amerindian 1.00 Pct

    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African 0.37 Pct
    Sub-Saharan 0.16 Pct
    Your ćaća is about 2.8% mongoloid, quite high score. Bosniak is about 3.15%.
    Amerindian is 70% mongoloid, not full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Your ćaća is about 2.8% mongoloid, quite high score. Bosniak is about 3.15%.
    Amerindian is 70% mongoloid, not full.
    1.92% according to Dodecad. Let's say 2 percent. Still as much if not more than what Tu-LARP Karom scores.

    Stearsolina_Dad(Croatian),5.33,1.02,0.24,0.11,26.22,44.36,0,0.1,3.92,0.79,17.9,0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    1.92% according to Dodecad. Let's say 2 percent. Still as much if not more than what Tu-LARP Karom scores.

    Stearsolina_Dad(Croatian),5.33,1.02,0.24,0.11,26.22,44.36,0,0.1,3.92,0.79,17.9,0
    You consider Dodecad more precise than K13 Eurogenes?

    Mongoloid score is always lower on Dodecad than on K13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    You consider Dodecad more precise than K13 Eurogenes?

    Mongoloid score is always lower on Dodecad than on K13.
    Well, I don't know if it's always more precise, I'm just more used to it. It has three Mongoloid components and lacks the Amerindian which is not needed in Eurasia at all (for those with real Amerindian ancestry Dodecad World9 will be more suitable). I guess some of the Amerindian goes into North European while the rest to Siberian. Who knows. Nothing is 100% accurate anyway.

    See this Mexican for example (sorry for being off-topic)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Nah, I think it's just an unbalanced proportion between North Atlantic and Baltic that is being produced by K13. I didn't notice the same on K36 for example. My mom experiences the same with her original unimputed data.
    Mama_OG,19.44,37.30,15.60,10.04,13.19,0.47,0.95,1. 49,0.28,0.41,0.82,0,0
    those 6 persons all tested on the new chips?

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    Does somebody have Bosniak sample from Stolac (Herzegovina)?

    Ali Pasha Rizvanbegović had a harem with plenty Georgian women which he buyed in Istanbul. He considered Georgian women for the most beautiful.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Pasha_Rizvanbegović
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    Is this Milenko not the eponymous TA user?

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 30.76
    2 North_Atlantic 22.32
    3 East_Med 17.75
    4 West_Med 15.57
    5 West_Asian 9.33
    6 Red_Sea 1.76
    7 Siberian 1.54
    8 East_Asian 0.34
    9 Oceanian 0.32
    10 South_Asian 0.31

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Serbian 5.57
    2 Romanian 6.32
    3 Bulgarian 7.13
    4 Moldavian 7.14
    5 Croatian 9.79
    6 Hungarian 11.37
    7 Austrian 15.48
    8 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.64
    9 Greek_Thessaly 15.71
    10 South_Polish 16.54
    11 East_German 16.64
    12 Ukrainian 16.7
    13 Southwest_Russian 19.22
    14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.58
    15 Polish 19.97
    16 North_Italian 20.94
    17 West_German 21.22
    18 Tuscan 21.27
    19 Russian_Smolensk 21.49
    20 Tatar 21.65

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 55.1% Greek_Thessaly + 44.9% Southwest_Russian @ 1.78
    2 73.6% Bulgarian + 26.4% Southwest_Russian @ 1.99
    3 76.1% Bulgarian + 23.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.02
    4 76.6% Bulgarian + 23.4% Belorussian @ 2.04
    5 50.9% Estonian_Polish + 49.1% Central_Greek @ 2.1
    6 58.5% Southwest_Russian + 41.5% South_Italian @ 2.14
    7 79.8% Bulgarian + 20.2% Lithuanian @ 2.18
    8 58.9% Greek_Thessaly + 41.1% Belorussian @ 2.25
    9 58.3% Greek_Thessaly + 41.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.27
    10 50.2% Belorussian + 49.8% Central_Greek @ 2.27
    11 63.4% Greek_Thessaly + 36.6% Lithuanian @ 2.29
    12 54.1% Southwest_Russian + 45.9% Central_Greek @ 2.29
    13 55.4% Estonian_Polish + 44.6% South_Italian @ 2.3
    14 59.7% Ukrainian + 40.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.31
    15 55.6% Greek_Thessaly + 44.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.32
    16 76% Bulgarian + 24% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.34
    17 54.4% Central_Greek + 45.6% Lithuanian @ 2.35
    18 50.1% Lithuanian + 49.9% South_Italian @ 2.38
    19 78.2% Bulgarian + 21.8% Erzya @ 2.39
    20 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.42


    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 18.54
    2 Baltic 17.8
    3 East_Med 15.43
    4 Eastern_Euro 14.04
    5 Atlantic 12.4
    6 West_Med 11.85
    7 West_Asian 7.68
    8 Red_Sea 1.47
    9 Siberian 0.69
    10 Oceanian 0.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Serbian 5.79
    2 Romanian 6.45
    3 Moldavian 7.69
    4 Bulgarian 8.18
    5 Croatian 10.15
    6 Hungarian 10.15
    7 Austrian 12.09
    8 Greek_Thessaly 13.52
    9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.7
    10 Greek 15.18
    11 East_German 15.23
    12 Ukrainian 15.41
    13 South_Polish 15.56
    14 Polish 18.15
    15 Tuscan 18.19
    16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.28
    17 North_Italian 18.42
    18 Russian_Smolensk 18.68
    19 Southwest_Russian 18.72
    20 Ashkenazi 19.18

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 63.9% Ukrainian + 36.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.38
    2 62.8% Greek_Thessaly + 37.2% Estonian @ 3.46
    3 56.8% Ukrainian + 43.2% Central_Greek @ 3.59
    4 53.5% Greek_Thessaly + 46.5% Ukrainian @ 3.63
    5 61.1% Greek_Thessaly + 38.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.68
    6 58.5% Greek_Thessaly + 41.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.71
    7 60.9% Ukrainian + 39.1% South_Italian @ 3.75
    8 68.7% Ukrainian + 31.3% Cyprian @ 3.76
    9 65% Ukrainian + 35% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.81
    10 55.7% Ukrainian + 44.3% Ashkenazi @ 3.82
    11 57.8% Greek_Thessaly + 42.2% Polish @ 3.94
    12 52.8% Central_Greek + 47.2% Estonian @ 3.94
    13 85.6% Moldavian + 14.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.97
    14 58% Ukrainian + 42% East_Sicilian @ 3.97
    15 53.8% Greek_Thessaly + 46.2% South_Polish @ 4.03
    16 82.5% Moldavian + 17.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.03
    17 61.7% Greek_Thessaly + 38.3% East_Finnish @ 4.05
    18 64.9% Ukrainian + 35.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.07
    19 80.3% Moldavian + 19.7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.1
    20 58% Greek_Thessaly + 42% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.1


    MDLP K23b Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 34.57
    2 Caucasian 34.37
    3 European_Early_Farmers 14.63
    4 Near_East 4.72
    5 South_Central_Asian 3.76
    6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.46
    7 North_African 1.98
    8 Amerindian 1.19
    9 South_Indian 0.78
    10 Tungus-Altaic 0.55
    11 African_Pygmy 0.32
    12 Paleo_Siberian 0.3
    13 Austronesian 0.18
    14 South_East_Asian 0.17

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Croat_BH ( ) 3.54
    2 Bosnian ( ) 3.86
    3 Serb_BH ( ) 4.39
    4 Croat ( ) 4.56
    5 Macedonian ( ) 5.34
    6 Montenegrian ( ) 5.36
    7 Bulgarian ( ) 5.71
    8 Serb_Serbia ( ) 7.02
    9 Romanian ( ) 7.69
    10 Gagauz ( ) 9.97
    11 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 10
    12 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 10
    13 Ukrainian_West ( ) 10.05
    14 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 10.09
    15 Czech ( ) 10.89
    16 Slovenian ( ) 11.15
    17 Ukrainian_Center ( ) 11.19
    18 Slovak ( ) 11.31
    19 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 11.44
    20 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 11.53

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 51.5% Russian-West ( ) + 48.5% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 1.32
    2 52.7% Greek ( ) + 47.3% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 1.34
    3 50% Russian_South ( ) + 50% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.39
    4 50.7% Greek ( ) + 49.3% Russian-West ( ) @ 1.41
    5 50.6% Greek_Athens ( ) + 49.4% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 1.43
    6 51.3% Greek_Athens ( ) + 48.7% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 1.48
    7 59.9% Central_Greek ( ) + 40.1% Latvian ( ) @ 1.5
    8 60.3% Ukrainian_West ( ) + 39.7% Greek ( ) @ 1.5
    9 53.1% Kashub ( ) + 46.9% Greek_Macedonia ( ) @ 1.51
    10 56.9% Greek_Athens ( ) + 43.1% Estonian ( ) @ 1.53
    11 62.3% Ukrainian_West ( ) + 37.7% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 1.56
    12 88.2% Bosnian ( ) + 11.8% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) @ 1.57
    13 87% Bosnian ( ) + 13% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 1.57
    14 53.2% Russian-West ( ) + 46.8% Italian_South ( ) @ 1.57
    15 67.4% Ukrainian_West ( ) + 32.6% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 1.58
    16 51.1% Belarusian-East ( ) + 48.9% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.58
    17 85.3% Croat_BH ( ) + 14.7% Turk_Adana ( ) @ 1.59
    18 88.1% Croat_BH ( ) + 11.9% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 1.59
    19 55.4% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 44.6% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.6
    20 53.4% Greek_Athens ( ) + 46.6% Balt ( ) @ 1.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Is this Milenko not the eponymous TA user?

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 30.76
    2 North_Atlantic 22.32
    3 East_Med 17.75
    4 West_Med 15.57
    5 West_Asian 9.33
    6 Red_Sea 1.76
    7 Siberian 1.54
    8 East_Asian 0.34
    9 Oceanian 0.32
    10 South_Asian 0.31

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Serbian 5.57
    2 Romanian 6.32
    3 Bulgarian 7.13
    4 Moldavian 7.14
    5 Croatian 9.79
    6 Hungarian 11.37
    7 Austrian 15.48
    8 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.64
    9 Greek_Thessaly 15.71
    10 South_Polish 16.54
    11 East_German 16.64
    12 Ukrainian 16.7
    13 Southwest_Russian 19.22
    14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.58
    15 Polish 19.97
    16 North_Italian 20.94
    17 West_German 21.22
    18 Tuscan 21.27
    19 Russian_Smolensk 21.49
    20 Tatar 21.65

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 55.1% Greek_Thessaly + 44.9% Southwest_Russian @ 1.78
    2 73.6% Bulgarian + 26.4% Southwest_Russian @ 1.99
    3 76.1% Bulgarian + 23.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.02
    4 76.6% Bulgarian + 23.4% Belorussian @ 2.04
    5 50.9% Estonian_Polish + 49.1% Central_Greek @ 2.1
    6 58.5% Southwest_Russian + 41.5% South_Italian @ 2.14
    7 79.8% Bulgarian + 20.2% Lithuanian @ 2.18
    8 58.9% Greek_Thessaly + 41.1% Belorussian @ 2.25
    9 58.3% Greek_Thessaly + 41.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.27
    10 50.2% Belorussian + 49.8% Central_Greek @ 2.27
    11 63.4% Greek_Thessaly + 36.6% Lithuanian @ 2.29
    12 54.1% Southwest_Russian + 45.9% Central_Greek @ 2.29
    13 55.4% Estonian_Polish + 44.6% South_Italian @ 2.3
    14 59.7% Ukrainian + 40.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.31
    15 55.6% Greek_Thessaly + 44.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.32
    16 76% Bulgarian + 24% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.34
    17 54.4% Central_Greek + 45.6% Lithuanian @ 2.35
    18 50.1% Lithuanian + 49.9% South_Italian @ 2.38
    19 78.2% Bulgarian + 21.8% Erzya @ 2.39
    20 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.42


    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 18.54
    2 Baltic 17.8
    3 East_Med 15.43
    4 Eastern_Euro 14.04
    5 Atlantic 12.4
    6 West_Med 11.85
    7 West_Asian 7.68
    8 Red_Sea 1.47
    9 Siberian 0.69
    10 Oceanian 0.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Serbian 5.79
    2 Romanian 6.45
    3 Moldavian 7.69
    4 Bulgarian 8.18
    5 Croatian 10.15
    6 Hungarian 10.15
    7 Austrian 12.09
    8 Greek_Thessaly 13.52
    9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.7
    10 Greek 15.18
    11 East_German 15.23
    12 Ukrainian 15.41
    13 South_Polish 15.56
    14 Polish 18.15
    15 Tuscan 18.19
    16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.28
    17 North_Italian 18.42
    18 Russian_Smolensk 18.68
    19 Southwest_Russian 18.72
    20 Ashkenazi 19.18

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 63.9% Ukrainian + 36.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.38
    2 62.8% Greek_Thessaly + 37.2% Estonian @ 3.46
    3 56.8% Ukrainian + 43.2% Central_Greek @ 3.59
    4 53.5% Greek_Thessaly + 46.5% Ukrainian @ 3.63
    5 61.1% Greek_Thessaly + 38.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.68
    6 58.5% Greek_Thessaly + 41.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.71
    7 60.9% Ukrainian + 39.1% South_Italian @ 3.75
    8 68.7% Ukrainian + 31.3% Cyprian @ 3.76
    9 65% Ukrainian + 35% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.81
    10 55.7% Ukrainian + 44.3% Ashkenazi @ 3.82
    11 57.8% Greek_Thessaly + 42.2% Polish @ 3.94
    12 52.8% Central_Greek + 47.2% Estonian @ 3.94
    13 85.6% Moldavian + 14.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.97
    14 58% Ukrainian + 42% East_Sicilian @ 3.97
    15 53.8% Greek_Thessaly + 46.2% South_Polish @ 4.03
    16 82.5% Moldavian + 17.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.03
    17 61.7% Greek_Thessaly + 38.3% East_Finnish @ 4.05
    18 64.9% Ukrainian + 35.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.07
    19 80.3% Moldavian + 19.7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.1
    20 58% Greek_Thessaly + 42% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.1


    MDLP K23b Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 34.57
    2 Caucasian 34.37
    3 European_Early_Farmers 14.63
    4 Near_East 4.72
    5 South_Central_Asian 3.76
    6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.46
    7 North_African 1.98
    8 Amerindian 1.19
    9 South_Indian 0.78
    10 Tungus-Altaic 0.55
    11 African_Pygmy 0.32
    12 Paleo_Siberian 0.3
    13 Austronesian 0.18
    14 South_East_Asian 0.17

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Croat_BH ( ) 3.54
    2 Bosnian ( ) 3.86
    3 Serb_BH ( ) 4.39
    4 Croat ( ) 4.56
    5 Macedonian ( ) 5.34
    6 Montenegrian ( ) 5.36
    7 Bulgarian ( ) 5.71
    8 Serb_Serbia ( ) 7.02
    9 Romanian ( ) 7.69
    10 Gagauz ( ) 9.97
    11 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 10
    12 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 10
    13 Ukrainian_West ( ) 10.05
    14 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 10.09
    15 Czech ( ) 10.89
    16 Slovenian ( ) 11.15
    17 Ukrainian_Center ( ) 11.19
    18 Slovak ( ) 11.31
    19 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 11.44
    20 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 11.53

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 51.5% Russian-West ( ) + 48.5% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 1.32
    2 52.7% Greek ( ) + 47.3% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 1.34
    3 50% Russian_South ( ) + 50% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.39
    4 50.7% Greek ( ) + 49.3% Russian-West ( ) @ 1.41
    5 50.6% Greek_Athens ( ) + 49.4% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 1.43
    6 51.3% Greek_Athens ( ) + 48.7% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 1.48
    7 59.9% Central_Greek ( ) + 40.1% Latvian ( ) @ 1.5
    8 60.3% Ukrainian_West ( ) + 39.7% Greek ( ) @ 1.5
    9 53.1% Kashub ( ) + 46.9% Greek_Macedonia ( ) @ 1.51
    10 56.9% Greek_Athens ( ) + 43.1% Estonian ( ) @ 1.53
    11 62.3% Ukrainian_West ( ) + 37.7% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 1.56
    12 88.2% Bosnian ( ) + 11.8% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) @ 1.57
    13 87% Bosnian ( ) + 13% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 1.57
    14 53.2% Russian-West ( ) + 46.8% Italian_South ( ) @ 1.57
    15 67.4% Ukrainian_West ( ) + 32.6% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 1.58
    16 51.1% Belarusian-East ( ) + 48.9% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.58
    17 85.3% Croat_BH ( ) + 14.7% Turk_Adana ( ) @ 1.59
    18 88.1% Croat_BH ( ) + 11.9% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 1.59
    19 55.4% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 44.6% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.6
    20 53.4% Greek_Athens ( ) + 46.6% Balt ( ) @ 1.6
    Milenko TA user score around 29% Baltic from what I remember. That is some other Milenko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Milenko TA user score around 29% Baltic from what I remember. That is some other Milenko.
    You are right, the haplogroups are U2e2 and I2a2.

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