Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

**Leto** · 10-17-2020, 08:21 PM

Target: Coast_Tatar_#1
Distance: 1.6622% / 1.66224356 | ADC: 0.25x
49.4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
31.8 Greek_Foca
10.0 Italy_Abruzzo
6.4 Lezgin
2.4 Dargin

Target: Coast_Tatar_#1
Distance: 2.6783% / 2.67833576 | ADC: 0.5x
68.6 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
26.0 Greek_Foca
2.8 Greek_Izmir
2.6 Italy_Apulia

Target: Coast_Tatar_#2
Distance: 1.4022% / 1.40218459 | ADC: 0.25x
66.2 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
16.2 Greek_Central
9.6 Greek_Foca
5.6 Lezgin
2.4 Udi_Azerbaijan

Target: Coast_Tatar_#2
Distance: 2.2698% / 2.26981984 | ADC: 0.5x
83.6 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
12.0 Greek_Foca
4.4 Greek_Izmir

Without Crimean Tatar Mountain

Target: Coast_Tatar_#1
Distance: 2.3607% / 2.36074941 | ADC: 0.5x
48.4 Greek_Foca
21.2 Turk_Trakya
16.2 Turk_West_BlackSea
14.2 Qumuq

Target: Coast_Tatar_#1
Distance: 1.4078% / 1.40777389 | ADC: 0.25x
31.8 Greek_Central
28.8 Greek_Foca
24.8 Qumuq
4.8 Turk_Northwest
4.4 Turk_Trakya
4.4 Turk_West_BlackSea
0.8 She
0.2 Italy_Apulia

Target: Coast_Tatar_#2
Distance: 2.0746% / 2.07462734 | ADC: 0.5x
33.0 Turk_Trakya
28.2 Greek_Foca
25.2 Turk_West_BlackSea
13.6 Qumuq

Target: Coast_Tatar_#2
Distance: 1.3473% / 1.34727580 | ADC: 0.25x
27.2 Greek_Central
22.6 Turk_Trakya
18.2 Turk_West_BlackSea
17.8 Qumuq
9.2 Greek_Foca
5.0 Karachay

**Dr_Maul** · 10-17-2020, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Siberian Tatars

Do you have their Y-DNA?

**Leto** · 10-17-2020, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Bender1999

I just know about some turkified Greeks, never heard of Tatars with Armenian roots. I think i is quite understandable that they have some slavic admix, i would wonder which people didn’t mixed with their neighbors during centuries of cohabitation. What i can say for Turkey Crimean Tatars, and mist of them live there now, are the most east eurasian looking people there. And(with Circissians) the best looking people imo(but thats off tooic now

Crimea has a long-time Armenian presence.

The presumable Slavic admix I was talking about is not from the last 200 years. Russians started to settle in Crimea after the end of the Crimean Khanate in the 1780s. Muslims and Orthodox in the Russian Empire almost never mixed. But a majority of today's Russians and Ukrainians in Crimea are just post WW2 migrants and their descendants whereas Crimean Tatars were allowed to return from Central Asia only 30 years ago.

I think what you have in Turkey is mostly Steppe Nogai Tatars, they can be 30-35% Mongoloid.

**Leto** · 10-17-2020, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Do you have their Y-DNA?

I'm afraid no, they don't.

Bender1999 · 10-17-2020, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Crimea has a long-time Armenian presence.

The presumable Slavic admix I was talking about is not from the last 200 years. Russians started to settle in Crimea after the end of the Crimean Khanate in the 1780s. Muslims and Orthodox in the Russian Empire almost never mixed. But a majority of today's Russians and Ukrainians in Crimea are just post WW2 migrants and their descendants whereas Crimean Tatars were allowed to return from Central Asia only 30 years ago.

I think what you have in Turkey are mostly Steppe Nogai Tatars, they can be 30-35% Mongoloid.

I just know one famous Nogai and he is not even full one(half Tatar). An important part of Turkeys academic and cultural personalities are of Tatar origin. I don’t want spam this thread, but here you can see some: https://amp.onedio.com/haber/cekik-v...19-unlu-893837

**Leto** · 10-17-2020, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Bender1999

I just know one famous Nogai and he is not even full one(half Tatar). An important part of Turkeys academic and cultural personalities are of Tatar origin. I don’t want spam this thread, but here you can see some: https://amp.onedio.com/haber/cekik-v...19-unlu-893837

It's okay. I know how Turks love light and blue-eyed celebrities, actors, singers.

Like this chick
https://img-s1.onedio.com/id-5e14b4e...771da11a80.jpg

**Leto** · 10-17-2020, 09:10 PM

Egyptian

Gedrosia 6.16 Pct
Siberian 0.27 Pct
Northwest_African 9.13 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.26 Pct
North_European -
South_Asian -
East_African 12.26 Pct
Southwest_Asian 26.16 Pct
East_Asian 2.13 Pct
Caucasus 30.94 Pct
Sub_Saharan 3.68 Pct

Distance to: Mike
5.85458794 Egyptans
11.91482690 Jordanians
12.31813298 Palestinian
13.36931187 Syrian_C
15.16967699 Yemenese
18.13786371 Syrian_A
18.13953693 Syria_SW_Christian
18.57364262 Palestinian_Christian
18.72790965 Lebanese_Muslim
19.23198118 Bedouin

Target: Mike
Distance: 1.7803% / 1.78026230 | ADC: 0.25x
72.8 Egyptans
10.0 Syrian_C
6.8 Palestinian
6.0 Lur_Iran
1.4 Ethiopian_Jews
1.4 Korean
1.4 Sandawe_He
0.2 Hazara

Another Ahiska (recent kit). Literally zero Mong, lol

L-M27
K1b1c

Gedrosia 21.43 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.93 Pct
North_European 6.57 Pct
South_Asian 1.45 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.98 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 52.96 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.67 Pct

Distance to: Hal
3.62114623 Turk_Ahiska
5.44652183 Georgian_mixed
6.70370047 Georgian_Adjara
6.76575938 Georgian_Turkey
6.90615667 Laz
6.97266807 Hemshin
7.85505570 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.11880533 Armenian_East
8.15608975 Georgian_Imereti
8.27592291 Udi_Azerbaijan

Target: Hal
Distance: 2.7267% / 2.72669400 | ADC: 0.5x
80.6 Turk_Ahiska
17.6 Georgian_Adjara
1.8 Sindhi

Target: Hal
Distance: 1.7784% / 1.77836335 | ADC: 0.25x
54.8 Turk_Ahiska
39.8 Georgian_Adjara
3.4 Sindhi
1.2 Spanish_Basque
0.8 Iran_Mazandaran

**Leto** · 10-17-2020, 09:10 PM

I also have a few new Georgian kits which I'm probably going to post without oracles.

**Amon** · 10-18-2020, 09:10 AM

14 Yemenite Mahra kits

Avg1: Yemenite_Mahra,1.62,0.14,5.83,0.66,7.22,0,0.59,4.8 7,49.81,0.17,29.62,0

Distance to: Yemenite_Mahra
7.37214351 Yemen_Jews
7.91260387 Bedouin
8.52746152 Kuwait2
9.27077667 Kuwait1
17.85883255 Yemenese

Target: Yemenite_Mahra
Distance: 1.6153% / 1.61529014 | ADC: 0.25x
40.4 Yemen_Jews
28.0 Kuwait2
26.2 Bedouin
5.2 Algerian
0.2 Sardinian

Avg2: Yemenite_mixed,5.38,0.01,4.27,1.28,5.29,0.58,2.55, 11.24,33.87,1.2,21.73,12.6

Distance to: Yemenite_mixed
15.07416001 Egyptans
16.74126638 Kuwait1
18.31246024 Bedouin
22.56001330 Jordanians
23.27249235 Yemenite_Mahra

Target: Yemenite_mixed
Distance: 2.0747% / 2.07472799 | ADC: 0.25x
64.4 Kuwait1
17.0 Egyptans
12.4 LWK30
4.0 Somali
1.6 Khasi
0.6 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal

**Amon** · 10-18-2020, 09:15 AM

10 Coptic kits

Code:

C1,2.15,0,11.51,0,8.64,0,0,11.93,28.6,0,35.34,1.83
C2,0,0,10.33,0,12.92,0,0,10.29,33.25,0,33.21,0
C3,5.16,0,9.02,0.36,13.32,0,0,8.78,28.86,0,34.51,0
C4,2.88,0,10.02,0,11.97,0,0,8.05,31.32,0,35.76,0
C5,0.62,0,9.71,0,11.42,0,0,11.03,33.9,0,33.31,0
C6,3.35,0,11.05,0.78,11.56,0,0,9.9,31.08,0,32.26,0
C7,2.30,0,11.14,0.40,12.45,0,0.30,10.81,31.68,0,30.92,0
C8,1.05,0,11.41,0,9.81,0,0,9.91,31.56,0,36.23,0
C9,1.51,0,13.60,0.48,10.88,0,0,10.03,32.58,0,30.93,0
C10,0.47,0,9.42,0,15.22,0,0,8.08,30.44,0,36.37,0

Avg: Coptic,1.95,0,10.72,0.20,11.82,0,0.03,9.88,31.32,0 ,33.88,0.18

Distance to: Coptic
7.09996479 Egyptans
12.03568860 Jordanians
13.91385281 Palestinian
15.18700102 Syrian_C
15.30195412 Bedouin

Target: Coptic
Distance: 3.2198% / 3.21977390
31.2 Yemen_Jews
27.8 Cypriots
14.8 Algerian
11.4 Egyptans
9.4 Ethiopian_Jews
4.2 Syria_SW_Christian
1.2 Georgian_Adjara

Target: Coptic
Distance: 4.2435% / 4.24349500 | ADC: 0.25x
68.2 Egyptans
14.2 Yemenite_Mahra
8.6 Cypriots
4.6 Syria_SW_Christian
4.4 Morocco_Jews