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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    A Cetsan?(idk whether this is a tribe or whatever) Nogay from a Tatar/Nogay village/Ankara:

    Gedrosia: 12.90 Pct
    Siberian: 12.93 Pct
    Northwest_African: -
    Southeast_Asian: 2.48 Pct
    Atlantic_Med: 7.42 Pct
    North_European: 16.89 Pct
    South_Asian: -
    East_African: -

    Southwest_Asian: 2.48 Pct
    East_Asian: 22.01 Pct
    Caucasus: 22.88 Pct
    Sub_Saharan: -
    Cetsan is the name of the eyalet they belong to. Also known as Yedisan or Yedishkul. Origin of the name is a Nogai clan settled there, called "Yediler."

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    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Also this is not the right place but check out this guy with a possible* Hungarian surname, true Magyar remnant
    Kit CG3234964, Y-DNA R-S660
    1 92.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 7.1% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 2.75

    *He shares a surname with a popular Hungarian guy, but idk if its originally or fully Hungarian.
    That guy has legit Amerindian ancestry, so he is not even from Europe. Check his Euro K13.

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    Circassian with no soutwest asian admixture. From Adyghea

    Population
    Gedrosia 19.18 Pct
    Siberian 2.73 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 2.27 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 4.54 Pct
    North_European 20.15 Pct
    South_Asian 0.55 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 0.10 Pct
    East_Asian 0.76 Pct
    Caucasus 49.64 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.08 Pct

    Distance to: azamat
    5.55898372 Ossetian
    5.56717163 Circassian
    6.25606905 Kumyks
    7.36433296 Balkar
    7.79883325 Ingush
    8.23425771 Karachay
    8.45566083 Chechen
    11.10956345 Abkhazian
    13.56082593 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    13.67122526 Georgian_Svan
    14.08334122 Georgian_mixed
    14.76914351 Qumuq
    14.89948657 Georgian_Gurian
    15.79035148 Lezgin
    16.25509766 Turk_Ahiska
    16.67810541 Avar
    16.71385054 Georgian_Mingrelian
    16.79990774 Lak
    17.21925957 Tabasaran
    17.41786439 Dargin
    17.47845245 Georgian_Imereti
    18.16350737 Udi_Azerbaijan
    19.05929957 Turk_East
    19.62532548 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    19.73757331 Georgian_Turkey

    Target: azamat
    Distance: 4.4968% / 4.49676095 | ADC: 0.25x

    53.8 Ossetian
    25.6 Georgian_Svan
    9.8 Dargin
    7.4 Kumyks
    3.2 Lithuanian
    0.2 Cambodians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    That guy has legit Amerindian ancestry, so he is not even from Europe. Check his Euro K13.
    Oh yeah, I forgot that was a thing
    I got carried away with dreams of the steppe...
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    The Age of R1 is over... The time of the J2, has come (again)
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    I'd say Turanid/Alpine/Mediterranean mix.
    Target: DrMaul
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    100.0 First Man - J2 Atlantean

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    Some woman, her last name is concentrated in North Ossetia-Alania. She also scores extremely high Med (12% West_Med on K13). Maybe just the V5 chip, no idea

    Gedrosia 16.15 Pct
    Siberian 5.62 Pct
    Northwest_African 1.69 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 0.38 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 7.43 Pct
    North_European 17.07 Pct

    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 2.88 Pct
    East_Asian 2.73 Pct
    Caucasus 46.06 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Zalika
    3.80884497 Karachay
    4.52943705 Ossetian
    4.68475186 Balkar
    5.26867156 Circassian
    6.61272259 Kumyks
    7.47949865 Ingush
    9.40444044 Chechen
    11.91076404 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    12.78368883 Abkhazian
    12.81605634 Qumuq

    Target: Zalika
    Distance: 2.1595% / 2.15954860 | ADC: 0.25x
    75.2 Ossetian
    17.8 Karachay
    1.8 Sardinian
    1.6 Dolgan
    1.4 Algerian
    1.2 Nogai
    1.0 Greek_Izmir

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    Gedrosia 19.32 Pct
    Siberian 5.37 Pct
    Northwest_African 1.29 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 1.47 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 5.82 Pct
    North_European 14.29 Pct

    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 3.34 Pct
    East_Asian 3.02 Pct
    Caucasus 46.09 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Zalika_match
    4.40336235 Ossetian
    4.44977528 Circassian
    5.17523912 Karachay
    5.79956033 Kumyks
    6.01565458 Ingush
    6.05952968 Balkar
    9.14430424 Chechen
    9.75372237 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    11.14187148 Abkhazian
    12.18100981 Georgian_mixed

    Target: Zalika_match
    Distance: 3.0399% / 3.03994038 | ADC: 0.5x
    44.0 Ossetian
    38.6 Circassian
    9.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    6.2 Karachay
    1.0 Yakut
    0.8 Turk_Central_Black_Sea

    Target: Zalika_match
    Distance: 1.9862% / 1.98622009 | ADC: 0.25x
    61.2 Circassian
    13.6 Ingush
    10.0 Ossetian
    7.8 Georgian_Adjara
    3.4 Yoruk
    2.4 Yakut
    0.6 Algerian
    0.6 CDX30
    0.4 Iranian

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatCat View Post
    Circassian with no soutwest asian admixture. From Adyghea
    How is that even possible? I mean I score 3% SW Asian which is above the average for my people though. Of course unless that's just faulty data. How much East Med and Red Sea does he get? I probably even had that kit. Sometimes I discard blatantly odd results and don't post 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Two Iranians from Khorasan (most likely Khorasan Turks but cannot confirm yet, Persian speaking-identifying on FB, Shia, unfortunately no meaningfull matches to pinpoint ancestry)
    mtdna: U7

    Gedrosian: 22.87
    Siberian: 6.32
    Northwest_African: 0.90
    Southeast_Asian: 2.00
    Atlantic_Med: 6.69
    North_European: 10.96
    South_Asian: 5.72
    East_African: 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 8.00
    East_Asian: 4.26
    Caucasian: 31.70
    SSA: 0.58

    Distance to: akh
    5.61900347 Turkmen_Iran
    6.27023126 Iran_Khorasan
    6.53344473 Turkmen
    10.12269727 Azerbaijani
    10.41952494 Azerbaijani_Iran
    11.26707593 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    11.53578779 Iranian_Fars
    11.54296322 Yoruk
    11.98272507 Turk_South
    12.12952184 Turk_Southeast
    12.45430046 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    13.15139156 Kurd_Kurmanji
    13.18535551 Turk_Anatolia
    13.20118177 Turk_Southwest
    13.68020833 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    13.74284541 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    13.81217941 Turk_Central_West
    13.87089759 Kurd_Sorani
    13.92233457 Iranian
    14.05114230 Turk_Central_East
    14.14036775 Turk_Northwest
    14.24420233 Tajik_Herat
    14.47623224 Turkmen_Iraq
    14.50168266 Qumuq
    14.67084524 Zaza

    Target: akh
    Distance: 2.5003% / 2.50034529 | ADC: 0.5x
    54.2 Turkmen_Iran
    25.0 Iran_Khorasan
    13.8 Turk_South
    5.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    1.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan


    Gedrosian: 25.60
    Siberian: 4.40
    Northwest_African: 0.00
    Southeast_Asian: 2.30
    Atlantic_Med: 8.40
    North_European: 8.88
    South_Asian: 7.52
    East_African: 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 7.87
    East_Asian: 3.49
    Caucasian: 30.50
    SSA: 1.05

    Distance to: siamak
    4.68470917 Iran_Khorasan
    7.61663311 Turkmen_Iran
    8.09769103 Turkmen
    10.04148893 Iranian_Fars
    11.65765843 Azerbaijani_Iran
    11.66235396 Azerbaijani
    11.89520912 Tajik_Herat
    12.88476232 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    13.23317044 Parsi_India
    13.28662109 Iranian
    13.32384329 Kurd_Kurmanji
    13.67525137 Kurd_Sorani
    13.81271154 Turk_Southeast
    13.82371151 Lur_Iran
    14.02098784 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    14.21470717 Iran_Mazandaran
    14.63990779 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    14.71647376 Turkmen_Iraq
    14.79398526 Turk_South
    14.80737316 Yoruk
    15.03298374 Zaza
    15.61635681 Tajik_Tajikistan
    15.76973684 Iran_Bandari
    15.81308003 Turk_Anatolia
    16.03678584 Turk_Southwest

    Target: siamak
    Distance: 2.4062% / 2.40622155 | ADC: 0.25x
    77.6 Iran_Khorasan
    13.4 Turkmen
    4.6 Sardinian
    2.2 Iran_Bandari
    1.2 Cambodians
    1.0 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
    Another relative: (unusual high Atlantic Med for Khorasan)

    Gedrosian: 27.00
    Siberian: 4.51
    Northwest_African: 0.00
    Southeast_Asian: 1.67
    Atlantic_Med: 9.82
    North_European: 8.86
    South_Asian: 7.36
    East_African: 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 5.81
    East_Asian: 3.74
    Caucasian: 29.96
    SSA: 1.60

    Distance to: isa
    6.43809755 Iran_Khorasan
    8.57228674 Turkmen_Iran
    8.71891048 Turkmen
    11.57068710 Tajik_Herat
    11.94162887 Iranian_Fars
    13.41281850 Azerbaijani
    13.43505117 Azerbaijani_Iran
    14.36449790 Parsi_India
    14.45034602 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    14.58620924 Iranian
    14.88187488 Tajik_Tajikistan
    14.94011379 Kurd_Kurmanji
    15.24269989 Iran_Mazandaran
    15.36323534 Lur_Iran
    15.50041612 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    15.54406961 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    15.57281606 Turk_Southeast
    15.63200883 Kurd_Sorani
    15.70474132 Yoruk
    15.88660127 Yagnobi
    16.01316958 Iran_Bandari
    16.29177707 Turk_South
    16.54230939 Zaza
    16.66451919 Turkmen_Iraq
    17.12227497 Turk_Anatolia

    Target: isa
    Distance: 3.7292% / 3.72916855 | ADC: 0.25x
    57.6 Iran_Khorasan
    20.8 Turkmen
    10.4 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
    6.6 Sardinian
    4.4 Iranian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    How is that even possible? I mean I score 3% SW Asian which is above the average for my people though. Of course unless that's just faulty data. How much East Med and Red Sea does he get? I probably even had that kit. Sometimes I discard blatantly odd results and don't post 'em.
    Population
    North_Atlantic 9.51 Pct
    Baltic 10.41 Pct
    West_Med 5.47 Pct
    West_Asian 48.88 Pct
    East_Med 16.22 Pct
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian 2.73 Pct
    East_Asian 2.85 Pct
    Siberian 1.82 Pct
    Amerindian 0.44 Pct
    Oceanian 1.66 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    His eurogenes k13 results

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    Don't know what this guy is. Maybe an actual Karakalpak? Or a Nogai?
    His kit number is A339749

    Gedrosia 10.89 Pct
    Siberian 23.04 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.09 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 3.07 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 7.78 Pct
    North_European 16.82 Pct

    South_Asian 2.18 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 0.61 Pct
    East_Asian 25.95 Pct
    Caucasus 9.58 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Oljas
    3.74825293 Karakalpak
    8.67344222 Kazakh
    12.44476597 Uzbeks
    13.17026955 Kyrgyz
    13.47931378 Uyghur
    14.38606618 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
    15.65116929 Hazara
    16.71218717 Uzbek
    17.11678708 Bashkir
    19.23618985 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe

    Target: Oljas
    Distance: 2.8119% / 2.81185132 | ADC: 0.5x
    95.8 Karakalpak
    2.2 Bashkir
    2.0 Spanish_Basque

    Target: Oljas
    Distance: 1.5254% / 1.52536984 | ADC: 0.25x
    87.2 Karakalpak
    6.2 Altai
    4.2 Spanish_Basque
    1.6 Bashkir
    0.8 Selkup

    Using @Amon's Nogai_Astrakhan average
    Nogai_Astrakhan,10.43,22.12,0.04,3.15,7.04,19.16,2 .67,0.03,1.41,23.91,10.02,0

    Target: Oljas
    Distance: 2.2955% / 2.29551147 | ADC: 0.5x
    66.2 Nogai_Astrakhan
    21.0 Karakalpak
    12.8 Kazakh

    Target: Oljas
    Distance: 1.4242% / 1.42422621 | ADC: 0.25x
    55.8 Nogai_Astrakhan
    21.4 Karakalpak
    13.4 Kazakh
    4.0 Altai
    3.4 Hazara
    2.0 Spanish_Basque

    Looks pretty much Early Turkic to me. I refuse to believe they were on average more European than that. Some elite Khazars and Avars for example were even more Mongoloid than that.

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    Kazakh

    Gedrosia 7.24 Pct
    Siberian 24.01 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.54 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 1.24 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 4.49 Pct
    North_European 16.35 Pct

    South_Asian 0.75 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 1.99 Pct
    East_Asian 35.45 Pct
    Caucasus 7.93 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Nurlan
    4.78464210 Kazakh
    6.86538418 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
    6.88994920 Kyrgyz
    9.81378622 Karakalpak
    13.17605024 Nogai_Astrakhan
    16.11767043 Uyghur
    17.49395324 Kalmyk
    18.66445552 Hazara
    19.31992495 Mongol
    19.36625416 Uzbeks

    Target: Nurlan
    Distance: 3.0422% / 3.04216002 | ADC: 0.25x
    90.6 Kazakh
    4.2 Korean
    3.2 Lithuanian
    2.0 Daur

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    Kurd from Zakho/Iraq:

    Gedrosia: 23.43 Pct
    Siberian: 0.21 Pct
    Northwest_African: 1.68 Pct
    Southeast_Asian: -
    Atlantic_Med: 8.12 Pct
    North_European: 5.03 Pct
    South_Asian: 3.04 Pct
    East_African: 0.67 Pct
    Southwest_Asian: 15.80 Pct
    East_Asian: 0.68 Pct
    Caucasus: 41.33 Pct
    Sub_Saharan: -

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