Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

[Aren]

I'm in some Facebook groups (Turkish and Azerbaijani DNA). But most results I find via Gedmatch matching.

Here's are some Iranians I found matching with Assyrians. Where are they from?

UN3970441

Gedrosia 25.88 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.21 Pct
North_European 9.29 Pct
South_Asian 6.10 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 10.65 Pct
East_Asian 4.38 Pct
Caucasus 35.48 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Iranian1
5.63204226 Iran_Khorasan
6.74968888 Iranian_Fars
7.34710827 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.55003973 Azerbaijani
8.21429242 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.55731851 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.61530615 Kurd_Sorani
8.86238681 Iranian
8.88673731 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.28780921 Lur_Iran
9.54657006 Zaza
10.00031999 Turkmen_Iraq
10.41367850 Iran_Mazandaran
10.56551939 Turk_Southeast
10.95577017 Kurd_KAZ
11.40656390 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.34629094 Turkmen_Iran
13.19651469 Turkmen
13.27356772 Turk_South
13.42821284 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.44329201 Turk_Central_East
14.30223409 Turk_Anatolia
14.45208635 Turk_Central_West
14.63679610 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
14.64704748 Iraqi_Baghdad

PB9623507

Gedrosia 22.97 Pct
Siberian 0.20 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.39 Pct
North_European 11.64 Pct
South_Asian 5.28 Pct
East_African 0.32 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.42 Pct
East_Asian 2.16 Pct
Caucasus 36.49 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.53 Pct

Distance to: Iranian2
5.66013251 Azerbaijani
5.90033897 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.06385164 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.31299528 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.39908778 Kurd_Sorani
7.92219035 Iranian_Fars
8.04357508 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.26445400 Zaza
8.27053203 Iran_Khorasan
8.40800809 Turk_Southeast
8.61261865 Turkmen_Iraq
9.44073620 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.64554301 Iranian
10.02115762 Lur_Iran
10.53056979 Kurd_KAZ
11.30428237 Turk_South
11.30551635 Turk_Central_East
11.48785881 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.86711844 Iran_Mazandaran
12.28418902 Turk_Anatolia
12.33691209 Turk_Central_West
12.56476024 Turk_East
12.70656523 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.90041085 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.63829535 Turkmen_Iran

[Dr_Maul]

Here's are some Iranians I found matching with Assyrians. Where are they from?

Decent N European so either NorthEast or Northwest for both.

Top one has high South Asian, Gedrosia and lower SW Asian. Could be a Persian from Mashhad or Khorasan in general or a Khorasani Turk, or a mix of both.
Bottom has higher SW Asian and less Gedrosia/South Asian, most likely from NW, most likely an Azeri but could be Kurdish possibly.

[Aren]

I think he is permanently banned. But that means nothing. How many sock puppets of Cumansky have been banned for example? 6 or 7? And yes, Hadouken does have certain mental issues.

Um, I usually browse through the matches of an interesting kit I've found. But I am not focused on Iraq, Syria, that kind of places. I can't even tell who is who by their names. I do try hard to fish out any North Caucasians and Central Asians that are available, that's my main focus regarding this thread.
I'd say there is no shortage of Iranians on Gedmatch, Lebanese people are pretty numerous as well. Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Georgians exist in decent numbers, especially the first. For Iraq we have that huge-ass Iraqi Project account but Syria and Jordan are definitely underrepresented.

Well I can tell apart Christians from Muslims from the Levant by their names, however the Muslims are hard to tell from where they are and whether or not they have recent Turkish, Kurdish or other ancestry. I'm gonna ask the user who created the various Syrian averages for some Syrian Arab kits, maybe I can find more.

[Fedora]

Ancient 3500 years old sample found in Hatay/Reyhanli inside a fountain. Kit Num: PU8517420
(https://www.google.com/maps/place/Va...8gEwAHoECAUQAQ)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 49.56
2 Caucasus 26.23
3 South_Asian 9.61
4 North_European 7.00
5 Southwest_Asian 4.78
6 Siberian 2.48


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Pathan_HGDP @ 21.392851
2 Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 23.448580
3 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 24.580427
4 Makrani_HGDP @ 24.901503
5 Iranians_Behar @ 24.946396
6 Burusho_HGDP @ 26.328735
7 Balochi_HGDP @ 26.988928
8 Iranian_Dodecad @ 27.499123
9 Kurd_Dodecad @ 28.860224
10 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 30.383644
11 Sindhi_HGDP @ 30.828781
12 Jatt_Dodecad @ 31.156761
13 Brahui_HGDP @ 34.265549
14 Lezgins_Behar @ 35.212723
15 Bnei_Menashe_Jews_Behar @ 37.357319
16 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 39.095703
17 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 39.391056
18 Chechens_Yunusbayev @ 42.085972
19 Turks_Behar @ 42.414841
20 Meena_Metspalu @ 42.934296

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Brahui_HGDP +50% Chechens_Yunusbayev @ 7.897983


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Balochi_HGDP +25% Georgians_Behar +25% Pathan_HGDP @ 4.674562


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Balochi_HGDP + Balochi_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Pathan_HGDP @ 4.674562
2 Balochi_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 4.887719
3 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + Balochi_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.074496
4 Brahui_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.120246
5 Balochi_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.154492
6 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.164994
7 Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.489050
8 Balochi_HGDP + Balochi_HGDP + Burusho_HGDP + Georgians_Behar @ 5.540467
9 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Brahui_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.591595
10 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Makrani_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.637033
11 Balochi_HGDP + Burusho_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP @ 5.683065
12 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Pathan_HGDP @ 5.722422
13 Balochi_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 5.899959
14 Brahui_HGDP + Burusho_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP @ 5.979517
15 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + Balochi_HGDP + Burusho_HGDP @ 6.033005
16 Brahui_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 6.038315
17 Balochi_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Burusho_HGDP + Georgians_Behar @ 6.045189
18 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Balochi_HGDP + Burusho_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP @ 6.070923
19 Burusho_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Makrani_HGDP + Makrani_HGDP @ 6.172461
20 Brahui_HGDP + Brahui_HGDP + Georgians_Behar + Pathan_HGDP @ 6.181248

[Dr_Maul]

Various south asians.

Bengali Muslim - Kit CS8643695 - J-M241
1 87.9% Dharkars (Metspalu) + 12.1% Han (HGDP) @ 2.31

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 49.42
2 Gedrosia 30.31
3 East_Asian 7.01
4 Southeast_Asian 5.25
5 North_European 5.03
6 Southwest_Asian 1.72
7 Caucasus 0.83
8 East_African 0.43

Pashtun/Sindh/Punjabi mix(?) Muslim name. - Kit H422996
1 71.8% Pathan (HGDP) + 28.2% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 3.87

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 41.13
2 South_Asian 35.05
3 Caucasus 12.54
4 North_European 7.34
5 Siberian 1.74
6 East_Asian 1.23
7 Southwest_Asian 0.81
8 East_African 0.15

Brahmin/upper caste Tamil - Kit Z739402
1 91% Iyengar (Dodecad) + 9% Armenians (Behar) @ 1.34

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 47.71
2 Gedrosia 35.71
3 North_European 6.03
4 Caucasus 5.93
5 Atlantic_Med 1.71
6 Southwest_Asian 1.49
7 Siberian 1.16
8 Northwest_African 0.23
9 Southeast_Asian 0.03

Brahmin/upper caste Tamil - Kit M455356
1 85.9% Iyengar (Dodecad) + 14.1% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 2.08

Spoiler!

1 South_Asian 45.31
2 Gedrosia 34.76
3 North_European 9.65
4 Caucasus 6.65
5 Siberian 1.39
6 East_Asian 1.19
7 Northwest_African 0.53
8 Southwest_Asian 0.46
9 Atlantic_Med 0.07

[Kyp]

Here's are some Iranians I found matching with Assyrians. Where are they from?

First one looks like Khorasan but could be mixed

Second one has a genealogy tree online. And he has ancestry from Kerman and Khorasan. However one grandmother is hidden, so i don't know about the missing 25%. Surname leads to Azerbaijan origin but you can't base the ethnicity on it. Just regional.

[Dr_Maul]

Interesting Iranian. Azeri(?)
Y-DNA L-M20.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 41.45
2 Gedrosia 20.86
3 Southwest_Asian 13.1
4 Atlantic_Med 10.25
5 North_European 7.43
6 East_Asian 2.69
7 Siberian 1.88
8 Southeast_Asian 0.95
9 South_Asian 0.94
10 East_African 0.31
11 Northwest_African 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks (Behar) 7.34
2 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.89
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 8.34
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 8.72
5 Iranian (Dodecad) 9.3
6 Turkish (Dodecad) 9.34
7 Iranians (Behar) 12.11
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 12.73
9 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 12.83
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 13.26


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.2% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.3
2 51.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 48.2% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.37
3 63.4% Turks (Behar) + 36.6% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.75
4 89.8% Turks (Behar) + 10.2% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.02
5 53.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 46.8% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.02
6 55% Turks (Behar) + 45% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 3.07
7 88.2% Turks (Behar) + 11.8% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.09
8 73.5% Kurd (Dodecad) + 26.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 3.16
9 50.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 49.9% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 3.19
10 88.9% Turks (Behar) + 11.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.21

[Kyp]

Ancient 3500 years old sample found in Hatay/Reyhanli inside a fountain. Kit Num: PU8517420
(https://www.google.com/maps/place/Va...8gEwAHoECAUQAQ)

Mitanni?

[Dr_Maul]

Various Turkisches. All of them with decent Eurasian input

Turk from Black Sea region - N-M231
1 92.1% Turks (Behar) + 7.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.22

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.79
2 Gedrosia 16
3 North_European 12.81
4 Southwest_Asian 11.27
5 Atlantic_Med 9.6
6 Siberian 3.57
7 East_Asian 2.59
8 Southeast_Asian 2.01
9 South_Asian 1.07
10 Northwest_African 0.76
11 East_African 0.51
12 Sub_Saharan 0.01
Kit T717086

Turk from Kahramanmaraş(?) - R1a1a1
1 66.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 33.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.58

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.93
2 Atlantic_Med 17.74
3 North_European 12.95
4 Gedrosia 10.47
5 Southwest_Asian 8.67
6 Siberian 8.07
7 East_Asian 6.21
8 Southeast_Asian 1.68
9 South_Asian 0.57
10 East_African 0.36
11 Northwest_African 0.2
12 Sub_Saharan 0.14
Kit CB4670055

Turk. No Y-DNA
1 76.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 23.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.65

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 40.28
2 Gedrosia 15.16
3 Atlantic_Med 11.54
4 Southwest_Asian 11.42
5 North_European 10.26
6 Siberian 4.93
7 East_Asian 4.12
8 Southeast_Asian 1.02
9 East_African 0.63
10 South_Asian 0.49
11 Northwest_African 0.16
Kit T932961

[Bender1999]

Idk whether this is a sample or the average, Turkmen:


Gedrosia: 18.86 Pct
Siberian: 10.29 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 7.06 Pct
North_European: 12.21 Pct
South_Asian: 6.57 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 8.43 Pct
East_Asian: 7.90 Pct
Caucasus: 26.68 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -