Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

[Amon]

The Bashkirs are not Siberian Tatars. In fact they do not even live in Siberia in the first place.

That doesn't change the fact that Tatars, Bashkirs and Siberian Tatars are all related and form a cline.
Bashkirs are native to Chelyabinsk which is east of Urals.

[Leto]

That doesn't change the fact that Tatars, Bashkirs and Siberian Tatars are all related and form a cline.
Bashkirs are native to Chelyabinsk which is east of Urals.

Related doesn't mean the same. And Bashkiria (the Republic of Bashkortostan) is located to the west of Chelyabinsk, although Chelyabinsk oblast does have a big Bashkir community. Yet over 70% of them still live in the republic.

[Kaspias]

Turkish Yoruk (n=5)

TY1,11.94,11.84,0.23,0.01,12.61,13.17,1.71,0,6.61,9.38,32.5,0
TY2,12.88,4.43,2.76,0.89,15.14,13.29,0.76,0.62,10.01,5.84,33.22,0.16
TY3,14,11.57,0.36,0,13.37,12.77,2.03,0.66,6.74,8.39,30.08,0
TY4,15.01,7.43,2.66,0,11.44,10.96,1.73,0,8.34,8.92,33.33,0.18
TY5,12.17,8.52,0.23,0,10.02,12.47,3.7,0,11.8,6.36,34.74,0

Avg: Turkish_Yoruk,13.2,8.76,1.24,0.18,12.52,12.53,1.99 ,0.25,8.7,7.78,32.77,0.06

Distance to: Turkish_Yoruk
4.36447019 Turk_Northwest
4.59214547 Turk_Southwest
7.33873286 Turk_West_BlackSea
7.78766332 Turk_South
8.27024183 Turk_Central_West

Target: Turkish_Yoruk
Distance: 0.8600% / 0.85998016 | ADC: 0.25x
71.8 Turk_Southwest
16.0 Turk_Northwest
4.2 Turkmen_TKM
4.2 Tuva
3.6 Nogai_Kuban
0.2 Pulliyar

Ps. The Dodecad K12 reference is prolly just one individual; the same is included in the new average.

Yoruk is not a different ethnic than regular Turks. It is better not to add it to K12b SS under the Yoruk name. I mean, Turkish_Northwest, Turkish_South, Turkish_Southwest, Central-West are Yoruks, too. The term Yoruk doesn't mean anything if not supplied with region information.

[Leto]

Let's have the Yörük deleted altogether if it's practically useless. I think Turkey is represented in great detail even without it.

[Amon]

Yoruk is not a different ethnic than regular Turks. It is better not to add it to K12b SS under the Yoruk name. I mean, Turkish_Northwest, Turkish_South, Turkish_Southwest, Central-West are Yoruks, too. The term Yoruk doesn't mean anything if not supplied with region information.

Hmmm, alright!

[Amon]

Related doesn't mean the same. And Bashkiria (the Republic of Bashkortostan) is located to the west of Chelyabinsk, although Chelyabinsk oblast does have a big Bashkir community. Yet over 70% of them still live in the republic.

Okay!

[Kaspias]

Let's have the Yörük deleted altogether if it's practically useless. I think Turkey is represented in great detail even without it.

I asked Lukas to remove Turk_Anatolia(average of Anatolian Turks?) and Yoruk.

We actually indeed have great data on Turkey:

Laz,17.25,0.06,0.17,0.25,9.41,5.05,0.1,0,10.19,0.03,57.48,0
Zaza,23.89,0.95,0.65,0.24,8.58,7.08,2.11,0.18,13.63,0.68,41.98,0.02
Kurd_Kurmanji,24.19,1.39,1.15,0.18,8.64,7.09,2.59,0.26,13.97,0.62,39.81,0.1
Nusayri_Turkey,12.48,0.49,3.15,0.39,16.16,2.82,0.58,1.16,19.46,0.1,42.95,0.25
Georgian_Turkey,19.82,0.44,0,0.02,6.6,5.2,0.35,0.03,8.32,0.39,58.77,0
Azerbaijani_Turkey,20.37,3.02,0.47,0.66,9.25,8.51,2.5,0.09,11.25,3.45,40.27,0.1
Turk_Ahiska,19.35,0.34,0.42,0.23,7.75,8.24,0.40,0,9.56,0.46,53.16,0.03
Turk_Central_Black_Sea,14.81,5.86,0.58,0.81,11.54,9.37,1.09,0.12,10.34,5.63,39.78,0.02
Turk_Central_East,15.68,3.8,0.89,0.55,12.23,9.33,1.45,0.16,11.66,3.91,40.18,0.08
Turk_Central_West,14.48,4.37,0.96,0.53,13.53,10.75,1.35,0.16,11.57,4.52,37.65,0.08
Turk_Cyprus,8.76,0.58,3.06,0.28,18.92,7.35,0.47,1.77,15.8,1.12,40.51,1.23
Turk_East,18.08,1.73,0.78,0.60,10.65,7.55,1.17,0.08,12.17,1.35,45.75,0.04
Turk_East_Black_Sea,15.19,0.80,0.39,0.13,11.01,5.28,0.30,0,11.25,1.17,54.42,0
Turk_Northwest,12.88,6.48,1.14,0.79,14.39,14.21,1.13,0.17,9.59,5.55,33.5,0.11
Turk_Trakya,8.48,3.85,1.04,0.37,21.03,25.64,0.86,0.08,7.83,3.00,27.75,0.03
Turk_Deliorman,8.07,3.08,0.62,0.69,21.58,28.74,0.94,0.07,7.05,2.60,26.53,0.06
Turk_Makedonya,6.76,1.79,1.02,0.50,24.44,26.63,0.53,0.26,8.13,1.01,28.81,0.11
Turk_South,15.42,5.44,1.11,0.51,11.29,10.08,1.6,0.28,11.37,5.1,37.52,0.23
Turk_Southeast,18.06,3.07,0.72,0.29,10.83,8.49,2.18,0.88,13.65,3.48,38.12,0.16
Turk_Southwest,13.7,6.04,1.17,0.56,13.69,12.02,1.33,0.34,10.1,5.8,35.08,0.09
Turk_West_BlackSea,13.21,4.61,0.72,0.81,14.4,12.92,1.24,0.06,10.47,4.49,36.98,0.03

[Leto]

I asked Lukas to remove Turk_Anatolia(average of Anatolian Turks?) and Yoruk.

We actually indeed have great data on Turkey:

I agree but why not include a national average for Turkey? I once made an average of 500+ samples (basically the entire spreadsheet) but Lukasz didn't add it (probably by omission).

[Mingle]

NEW results from Tajikistan
He scores a lot of East Asian as opposed to Siberian.

Gedrosia 20.97 Pct
Siberian 8.45 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 3.39 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.84 Pct
North_European 16.41 Pct
South_Asian 8.58 Pct
East_African 0.65 Pct
Southwest_Asian 2.47 Pct
East_Asian 18.21 Pct
Caucasus 16.55 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.47 Pct

Distance to: Nodir
6.50143061 Uzbek
10.25444782 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
11.41414911 Uzbeks
14.73693998 Tajik_Tajikistan
16.09389636 Uyghur
17.21532457 Turkmen
17.23693418 Tajiks
17.76823852 Hazara
17.79068577 Turkmen_Iran
18.88584655 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe

Target: Nodir
Distance: 2.5011% / 2.50106959 | ADC: 0.25x
64.2 Uzbek
21.4 Tajik_Tajikistan
9.4 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
1.8 Tujia
1.2 Tabasaran
1.0 Korean
1.0 Lak

Which part of Tajikistan is he from? Can you post his HW results as well?

[Leto]

Apparently some kind of Azerbaijani (Republican)

Gedrosia 21.62 Pct
Siberian 3.16 Pct
Northwest_African 2.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.12 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.91 Pct
North_European 5.26 Pct
South_Asian 3.24 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.86 Pct
East_Asian 4.32 Pct
Caucasus 39.22 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Karimova
5.56429690 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.20236245 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.38289903 Azerbaijani
7.31833998 Turk_Southeast
8.10759520 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.16524341 Turk_Central_East
8.48952884 Zaza
8.94888261 Yazidi
9.02325329 Turk_South
9.10783728 Turk_Central_Black_Sea

Target: Karimova
Distance: 3.7692% / 3.76923614 | ADC: 0.25x
63.8 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.8 Lur_Iran
8.2 Georgian_Adjara
5.8 Iranian
5.2 Sardinian
2.6 Hazara
1.8 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
0.8 Algerian

I don't know why but Vahaduo kinda sucks for her. No good fit.