Proto-Bulgars were an Irano-Caucasian people(?)

[PAGANE]

[QUOTE = Kaspias; 6998875] Резултатите, които компаниите възлагат, са без значение, тъй като не могат да бъдат правилни. Те се основават на съвременни мостри от конкретни региони. Фенотипът също не е индикатор. От друга страна, като се има предвид, че е бил бежанец в Украйна, той / тя трябва да е българин. Въз основа на това може да имате турски или български мачове, защото балканските турци вече са 70-80% местни по отношение на ДНК.


Не точно.

1. Това не беше само една посока. Обратно, mt-ДНК на балканските турци има по-тюркски произход от тяхната y-ДНК. Изтъква, че българските мъже са взели туркини повече, отколкото турците са взели българки.
2. Не е имало "физическа" сила за преобразуване, искам да кажа, няма да има дими, които да останат в региона в такова състояние и османското правителство няма да позволи на християните да се заселят в определени региони. Преобразуването беше насърчавано чрез използване на данъчни отстъпки за мюсюлманската общност и шанс за заемане на по-високи позиции в османското правителство.
3. Сред 173 проби от балкански турци, които имам, само един индивид, който е от Русе, може да бъде считан за новообратен. Останалите показват действителна тюркска примес.

Но е правилно, че турско-българските смеси са довели синът да се идентифицира като турски, което по-късно ще бъде известно като балкански турци. Това идва от естеството на исляма и ислямизирането на българите естествено води детето да идентифицира турския език. [/ ЦИТАТ]

1. In the conditions of the Ottoman Empire it is impossible for a Bulgarian man to take a Turk and remain a Christian. He can marry a Turkish woman, but he must first convert to Islam. By converting to Islam, this family automatically became Muslim and their children, and their children's children, were already assimilated into the Turkish ethnic group. They consider themselves Turks. The earlier this happens, the easier it is to mix with ethnic Turks on the basis of a common religion.

2. There was also physical violence for the adoption of Islam. The most striking are the region of the Rhodopes, where whole villages are converted to Islam. It is natural that the socio-economic situation of the Bulgarians in the Ottoman Empire was unequal compared to the Muslims.Islamization was largely gradual, on a voluntary basis, in view of economic and social privileges. But in certain periods this also happened by force.
When you put a certain population at a disadvantage economically and socially because of the difference in religion, it is also a form of violence that forces them to change their religion in order to improve their social and economic status.

3. It is normal to show a Turkic admixture, because becoming a Muslim he is free to marry or marry an ethnic Turk. The earlier the change of religion took place, the more generations there are to this day and the more mixing there is. For example, if a Bulgarian Christian family converted to Islam in the middle of the 17th century, by the end of this century we may have two more generations of this family, who are already Muslims, who do not even remember that they are not Turks by origin. These two generations can easily enter into a family union with ethnic Turks, and so the Turkic impurity grows proportionally. Let me remind you that hypothetically this is the 17th century, two more centuries will follow and if we roughly add 4 generations per century, it will happen by the end of the 19th century. we have 10 generations. In each of these generations, it is quite real and possible that the Turkic genetic component increases through marriages with Muslim ethnic Turks.

[Kaspias]

It contains Turkic, is it possible my Bulgarian ancestors have 10-20% DNA from Bulgars?

No. It is not likely. Try to model yourself in Dodecad K12b and see which "extra" admixture you have compared to your ethnicities. This will be the answer.

1. In the conditions of the Ottoman Empire it is impossible for a Bulgarian man to take a Turk and remain a Christian. He can marry a Turkish woman, but he must first convert to Islam. By converting to Islam, this family automatically became Muslim and their children, and their children's children, were already assimilated into the Turkish ethnic group. They consider themselves Turks. The earlier this happens, the easier it is to mix with ethnic Turks on the basis of a common religion.

Yes, that's it. Bulgarian men adopted Islam and married Turks. Again, this is because of social and economic reasons. There are many Turkish villages in the Balkans under the name of "Müsellim", which means a group of soldier native to the land where he lives, has a non-Muslim origin, yet Islamized.

2. There was also physical violence for the adoption of Islam. The most striking are the region of the Rhodopes, where whole villages are converted to Islam. It is natural that the socio-economic situation of the Bulgarians in the Ottoman Empire was unequal compared to the Muslims.Islamization was largely gradual, on a voluntary basis, in view of economic and social privileges. But in certain periods this also happened by force.
When you put a certain population at a disadvantage economically and socially because of the difference in religion, it is also a form of violence that forces them to change their religion in order to improve their social and economic status.

The only cruelty that occurred in the Rhodope area is when Bulgaria was conquered at first. Eastern Rhodope is emptied forcefully and Edirne became capital. The region flooded with massive Turkic hordes in a short period and some Bulgarian villages raided/emptied/converted forcefully. This was the only register that is a sign of physically forced conversion of non-Muslims in the Ottoman Balkan history. Afterward, especially towards liberation, mutual conflicts happened but these were not exactly about conversion. There were probably cases in which Bulgarians resisted giving man or money to the state under war conditions specifically, in such times there might be more pressure than usual, and conflicts that came with it. But such cases even were applying to Turks. On the other hand, there is also a gap of information in Ottoman history when Aktav's Tatars raided Varna and were forcefully settled into Tatarbazari in an attempt to "civilize" them. If you mean such things, yes, these have also happened time-to-time yet these had no relevance with the government policy.

The point is what we know is not enough to claim that non-Muslims were forcefully converted. As opposite, we have much other reason to believe that they converted because of socio-economical reasons, which can be regarded as a type of violence and I agree you on that, and secondly conversion voluntarily. I can also encourage you to investigate the counterparts of Ottomans and their policy to their minorities. For example, if the Ottomans had not conquered Bulgaria, Bulgarians might be speaking Greek now.

3. It is normal to show a Turkic admixture, because becoming a Muslim he is free to marry or marry an ethnic Turk. The earlier the change of religion took place, the more generations there are to this day and the more mixing there is. For example, if a Bulgarian Christian family converted to Islam in the middle of the 17th century, by the end of this century we may have two more generations of this family, who are already Muslims, who do not even remember that they are not Turks by origin. These two generations can easily enter into a family union with ethnic Turks, and so the Turkic impurity grows proportionally. Let me remind you that hypothetically this is the 17th century, two more centuries will follow and if we roughly add 4 generations per century, it will happen by the end of the 19th century. we have 10 generations. In each of these generations, it is quite real and possible that the Turkic genetic component increases through marriages with Muslim ethnic Turks.

Exactly. But I doubt it was all in the 17th century. I would say it started in the 15th century. Plus, most of the Islamization cases happened directly by marrying with Turks in the first generation.

[PAGANE]

[ЦИТА = Kaspias; 6998962] Не. Не е вероятно. Опитайте се да моделирате себе си в Dodecad K12b и да видите коя „допълнителна“ добавка имате в сравнение с вашите етноси. Това ще бъде отговорът.





Да това е. Българите приеха исляма и се ожениха за турци. Отново това се дължи на социални и икономически причини. На Балканите има много турски села под името "Мюселим", което означава група войници, родом от страната, където живее, има немюсюлмански произход, но все пак ислямизиран.



Единствената жестокост, която се е случила в района на Родопите е, когато България е била завладяна първоначално. Източните Родопи се изпразват насилствено и Одрин става столица. Регионът се наводни с масивни тюркски орди за кратък период и някои български села нахлуха / изпразниха / преобразуваха насилствено. Това беше единственият регистър, който е признак на физически насилствено обръщане на немюсюлмани в историята на османските балкани. Впоследствие, особено към освобождението, се случиха взаимни конфликти, но не ставаше дума точно за обръщане. Вероятно е имало случаи, в които българите са се противопоставяли да дават човек или пари на държавата по-специално във военни условия, в такива моменти може да има по-голям натиск от обикновено и конфликти, дошли с него. Но такива случаи се прилагаха дори и за турци. От друга страна, има и пропуск в информацията в османската история, когато татарите на Актав нахлуха във Варна и бяха принудително заселени в Татарбазари в опит да ги „цивилизират“. Ако имате предвид такива неща, да, те също са се случвали от време на време, но те не са имали отношение към правителствената политика.

Въпросът е в това, което знаем, че не е достатъчно, за да се твърди, че немюсюлманите са били насилствено обърнати. Като противоположно, имаме много други основания да вярваме, че те са се обърнали поради социално-икономически причини, които могат да се разглеждат като вид насилие и аз съм съгласен с това, и второ доброволно преобразуване. Също така мога да ви насърча да разследвате колегите на османците и тяхната политика спрямо техните малцинства. Например, ако османците не бяха завладели България, българите може би сега говореха гръцки.



Точно. Но се съмнявам, че всичко е било през 17 век. Бих казал, че е започнало през 15 век. Освен това повечето случаи на ислямизация са се случили директно чрез сключване на брак с турци през първото поколение. [/ QUOTE]

They would hardly speak Greek, because between the First and the Second Bulgarian State in the Balkans they stood for 200 years under the rule of Byzantium. Well, they didn't speak Greek And why not assume that the whole Balkans would speak Bulgarian, including today's Northern Greece and the European part of Turkey But as the Russians say, history does not know a conditional inclination. I said this for the 17th century simply as an example. Of course, it can happen sooner or later.

[PAGANE]

[ЦИТА = Kaspias; 6998962] Не. Не е вероятно. Опитайте се да моделирате себе си в Dodecad K12b и да видите коя „допълнителна“ добавка имате в сравнение с вашите етноси. Това ще бъде отговорът.





Да това е. Българите приеха исляма и се ожениха за турци. Отново това се дължи на социални и икономически причини. На Балканите има много турски села под името "Мюселим", което означава група войници, родом от страната, където живее, има немюсюлмански произход, но все пак ислямизиран.



Единствената жестокост, която се е случила в района на Родопите е, когато България е била завладяна първоначално. Източните Родопи се изпразват насилствено и Одрин става столица. Регионът се наводни с масивни тюркски орди за кратък период и някои български села нахлуха / изпразниха / преобразуваха насилствено. Това беше единственият регистър, който е признак на физически насилствено обръщане на немюсюлмани в историята на османските балкани. Впоследствие, особено към освобождението, се случиха взаимни конфликти, но не ставаше дума точно за обръщане. Вероятно е имало случаи, в които българите са се противопоставяли да дават човек или пари на държавата по-специално във военни условия, в такива моменти може да има по-голям натиск от обикновено и конфликти, дошли с него. Но такива случаи се прилагаха дори и за турци. От друга страна, има и пропуск в информацията в османската история, когато татарите на Актав нахлуха във Варна и бяха принудително заселени в Татарбазари в опит да ги „цивилизират“. Ако имате предвид такива неща, да, те също са се случвали от време на време, но те не са имали отношение към правителствената политика.

Въпросът е в това, което знаем, че не е достатъчно, за да се твърди, че немюсюлманите са били насилствено обърнати. Като противоположно, имаме много други основания да вярваме, че те са се обърнали поради социално-икономически причини, които могат да се разглеждат като вид насилие и аз съм съгласен с това, и второ доброволно преобразуване. Също така мога да ви насърча да разследвате колегите на османците и тяхната политика спрямо техните малцинства. Например, ако османците не бяха завладели България, българите може би сега говореха гръцки.



Точно. Но се съмнявам, че всичко е било през 17 век. Бих казал, че е започнало през 15 век. Освен това повечето случаи на ислямизация са се случили директно чрез сключване на брак с турци през първото поколение. [/ QUOTE]

They would hardly speak Greek, because between the First and the Second Bulgarian State in the Balkans they stood for 200 years under the rule of Byzantium. Well, they didn't speak Greek And why not assume that the whole Balkans would speak Bulgarian, including today's Northern Greece and the European part of Turkey But as the Russians say, history does not know a conditional inclination. I said this for the 17th century simply as an example. Of course, it can happen sooner or later.

[Kaspias]

[ЦИТА = Kaspias; 6998962] Не. Не е вероятно. Опитайте се да моделирате себе си в Dodecad K12b и да видите коя „допълнителна“ добавка имате в сравнение с вашите етноси. Това ще бъде отговорът.





Да това е. Българите приеха исляма и се ожениха за турци. Отново това се дължи на социални и икономически причини. На Балканите има много турски села под името "Мюселим", което означава група войници, родом от страната, където живее, има немюсюлмански произход, но все пак ислямизиран.



Единствената жестокост, която се е случила в района на Родопите е, когато България е била завладяна първоначално. Източните Родопи се изпразват насилствено и Одрин става столица. Регионът се наводни с масивни тюркски орди за кратък период и някои български села нахлуха / изпразниха / преобразуваха насилствено. Това беше единственият регистър, който е признак на физически насилствено обръщане на немюсюлмани в историята на османските балкани. Впоследствие, особено към освобождението, се случиха взаимни конфликти, но не ставаше дума точно за обръщане. Вероятно е имало случаи, в които българите са се противопоставяли да дават човек или пари на държавата по-специално във военни условия, в такива моменти може да има по-голям натиск от обикновено и конфликти, дошли с него. Но такива случаи се прилагаха дори и за турци. От друга страна, има и пропуск в информацията в османската история, когато татарите на Актав нахлуха във Варна и бяха принудително заселени в Татарбазари в опит да ги „цивилизират“. Ако имате предвид такива неща, да, те също са се случвали от време на време, но те не са имали отношение към правителствената политика.

Въпросът е в това, което знаем, че не е достатъчно, за да се твърди, че немюсюлманите са били насилствено обърнати. Като противоположно, имаме много други основания да вярваме, че те са се обърнали поради социално-икономически причини, които могат да се разглеждат като вид насилие и аз съм съгласен с това, и второ доброволно преобразуване. Също така мога да ви насърча да разследвате колегите на османците и тяхната политика спрямо техните малцинства. Например, ако османците не бяха завладели България, българите може би сега говореха гръцки.



Точно. Но се съмнявам, че всичко е било през 17 век. Бих казал, че е започнало през 15 век. Освен това повечето случаи на ислямизация са се случили директно чрез сключване на брак с турци през първото поколение. [/ QUOTE]

They would hardly speak Greek, because between the First and the Second Bulgarian State in the Balkans they stood for 200 years under the rule of Byzantium. Well, they didn't speak Greek And why not assume that the whole Balkans would speak Bulgarian, including today's Northern Greece and the European part of Turkey But as the Russians say, history does not know a conditional inclination. I said this for the 17th century simply as an example. Of course, it can happen sooner or later.

They actually spoke. Many materials produced in that time period were in Greek, including a part of your signature, and they had no their own Church(not to mention adopting Christianism), that's why I referred to Byzantium. It was after the 1100s in the Bulgarian Empire and in Vidin-Dobruja Despotates which Slavs strengthened their political power. (See the emerged Cumano-Slav houses of Terter and Balik) Not only that, Thracians which Slavic Bulgarians mixed in the region were already had mixed with Greeks before mixing with Slavs. In this sense, all of the Bulgarians have a varying degree of Greek admixture which shifts them Southeast compared to other South Slavs. In addition, many Greek individuals who are from inner Central Macedonia were identifying as Bulgarian once, yet speaking Greek now. I can list other past and present factors as such, but no need to derail the thread more. Eventually, the nations who live near Thrace interacted in various degrees, what we don't need is a pissing contest.

[Abriekman]

No. It is not likely. Try to model yourself in Dodecad K12b and see which "extra" admixture you have compared to your ethnicities. This will be the answer.

Distance: 105.3750% / 1.05375003
Target: Abriekman
85.0 Ukrainian
9.1 Turk_Ahiska
5.9 Macedonian


Distance: 99.3008% / 0.99300814
Target: Abriekman
86.4 Ukrainian
8.6 Hemshin
4.0 Macedonian
0.6 Lak
0.4 Western_Indonesian

Distance: 179.8929% / 1.79892882
Target: Abriekman
83.9 Ukrainian
7.4 Macedonian
6.3 Azeri_Jew
1.3 Nogai
1.1 Azerbaijani_Turkey

I have high caucasus, but I do not know from which side it is, what is extra admixture in my case?

On G25 I can model myself as 1/8 Balkan Turk, but I do not think it means anything, because my ancestors have Bulgarian names and surnames and were not Muslims

Distance: 2.0174% / 0.02017418
Target: Abriekman_scaled
84.0 Eastern_Europe_&_Russia
9.3 Greece_&_the_Balkans
6.4 Turkey_&_the_Caucasus
0.3 Melanesia

[andre]

The guy in the video I posted is sharing information from Reich. He said Bulgars are 50% Caucasus 50% late scytho-alanic with closest to Moldovan scythians and alans. Idk why is it so mindblowing to you. The Bulgars lived in the area, of course they will be related to the neighboring populations. If you consider the Armenian chronicles, they lived in the Caucasus for 400 years before migrating west. While the guy on the video wishes there are elites from sibir or altai, he specifically says there are no samples yet with eastern dna. So, turkic theory is dead once and for all. Slavic theory is on its last legs, wonder how will they spin the I2a1 found in EBA https://proizhod.nauka.bg/2020/10/06/news/ . He even says that the slavs on the balkans are from scythian hungary, which were absorbed by slavs before migrating.( wow, just wow). He reccomends using Byzantine and Late roman samples, not Iron age Bulgaria, because there are 1000 years of time difference.

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Slavs:Scythian_HUN:DA197,0.124067,0.145221,0.064488,0.034884,0.037545,0.010598,-0.003995,0.011538,0.008795,0.00328,0.003735,-0.001199,-0.00223,0.010046,-0.00855,0.004508,0.011213,-0.006334,0.001885,0.000125,0.002371,0.000742,0.000493,-0.008314,-0.006466
Slavs:CZE_Early_Slav:RISE569,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
Romans:Rome_Late_Antiquity,0.1130169,0.148775,0.0057355,-0.0298371,0.0238762,-0.012399,-0.0004504,-0.0026633,0.006792,0.0239033,0.0014005,0.0050268,-0.0083498,-0.003108,-0.0045523,-0.0004917,0.0042865,0.0005385,0.0032735,-0.0014902,-0.000993,0.0016075,-0.0009192,0.0002611,-0.0012474

Target: Bulgarian
Distance: 1.6088% / 0.01608786
56.2 Slavs
36.6 Romans
7.0 Proto-Bulgars
0.2 Magyars


Target: Gagauz
Distance: 1.8856% / 0.01885616
43.8 Slavs
41.8 Romans
14.4 Proto-Bulgars


Target: Hungarian
Distance: 1.4064% / 0.01406384
68.6 Slavs
30.0 Germans
1.0 Romans
0.4 Magyars


Target: Serbian
Distance: 1.8214% / 0.01821384
68.2 Slavs
31.8 Romans

And me 1/4 Csango magyar:

Target: Andre_scaled
Distance: 3.1148% / 0.03114771
45.8 Romans
45.8 Slavs
5.4 Germans
3.0 Magyars

[bained]

Germans:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019,0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Proto-Bulgars:Alan_MA,0.1099532,0.1045994,-0.025418,-0.0089794,-0.0262818,0.0051316,0.0054522,-0.0072458,-0.0456908,-0.0248206,0.0028256,0.0098314,-0.0166796,-0.0065784,0.005809,-0.002758,0.005372,-0.0059036,-0.0057318,0.0034768,0.003893,0.006529,0.0015532,-0.0004094,-0.0036644
Magyars:Uyelgi,0.09675,-0.123387,0.095223,0.087533,-0.075399,-0.045459,0.031609,0.0040385,-0.023418,-0.0537595,0.055131,-0.023229,0.019772,-0.0477555,-0.0329805,0.00537,-0.0099095,-0.0214735,-0.0309845,-0.03189,-0.0142245,0.0185475,0.012756,-0.0018675,0.0141305
Slavs:Scythian_HUN:DA195,0.117238,0.138112,0.036958,0.013566,0.03139,0.003904,-0.000235,-0.000692,0.008385,0.015855,-0.003248,-0.003297,-0.001189,0.000688,-0.016015,0.011535,0.011995,0.006968,0.007416,-0.000625,-0.011605,-0.007666,0.008381,-0.004579,-0.003952
Slavs:Scythian_HUN:DA197,0.124067,0.145221,0.064488,0.034884,0.037545,0.010598,-0.003995,0.011538,0.008795,0.00328,0.003735,-0.001199,-0.00223,0.010046,-0.00855,0.004508,0.011213,-0.006334,0.001885,0.000125,0.002371,0.000742,0.000493,-0.008314,-0.006466
Slavs:CZE_Early_Slav:RISE569,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
Romans:Rome_Late_Antiquity,0.1130169,0.148775,0.0057355,-0.0298371,0.0238762,-0.012399,-0.0004504,-0.0026633,0.006792,0.0239033,0.0014005,0.0050268,-0.0083498,-0.003108,-0.0045523,-0.0004917,0.0042865,0.0005385,0.0032735,-0.0014902,-0.000993,0.0016075,-0.0009192,0.0002611,-0.0012474

Target: Bulgarian
Distance: 1.6088% / 0.01608786
56.2 Slavs
36.6 Romans
7.0 Proto-Bulgars
0.2 Magyars


Target: Gagauz
Distance: 1.8856% / 0.01885616
43.8 Slavs
41.8 Romans
14.4 Proto-Bulgars


Target: Hungarian
Distance: 1.4064% / 0.01406384
68.6 Slavs
30.0 Germans
1.0 Romans
0.4 Magyars


Target: Serbian
Distance: 1.8214% / 0.01821384
68.2 Slavs
31.8 Romans

And me 1/4 Csango magyar:

Target: Andre_scaled
Distance: 3.1148% / 0.03114771
45.8 Romans
45.8 Slavs
5.4 Germans
3.0 Magyars

Good, now include scythian moldova alan mix and we have it all. And the Byzantine Szolad and Colegno samples, also the Skull doformed german samples

[Jana]

Germans:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019,0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Proto-Bulgars:Alan_MA,0.1099532,0.1045994,-0.025418,-0.0089794,-0.0262818,0.0051316,0.0054522,-0.0072458,-0.0456908,-0.0248206,0.0028256,0.0098314,-0.0166796,-0.0065784,0.005809,-0.002758,0.005372,-0.0059036,-0.0057318,0.0034768,0.003893,0.006529,0.0015532,-0.0004094,-0.0036644
Magyars:Uyelgi,0.09675,-0.123387,0.095223,0.087533,-0.075399,-0.045459,0.031609,0.0040385,-0.023418,-0.0537595,0.055131,-0.023229,0.019772,-0.0477555,-0.0329805,0.00537,-0.0099095,-0.0214735,-0.0309845,-0.03189,-0.0142245,0.0185475,0.012756,-0.0018675,0.0141305
Slavs:Scythian_HUN:DA195,0.117238,0.138112,0.036958,0.013566,0.03139,0.003904,-0.000235,-0.000692,0.008385,0.015855,-0.003248,-0.003297,-0.001189,0.000688,-0.016015,0.011535,0.011995,0.006968,0.007416,-0.000625,-0.011605,-0.007666,0.008381,-0.004579,-0.003952
Slavs:Scythian_HUN:DA197,0.124067,0.145221,0.064488,0.034884,0.037545,0.010598,-0.003995,0.011538,0.008795,0.00328,0.003735,-0.001199,-0.00223,0.010046,-0.00855,0.004508,0.011213,-0.006334,0.001885,0.000125,0.002371,0.000742,0.000493,-0.008314,-0.006466
Slavs:CZE_Early_Slav:RISE569,0.12862,0.129988,0.068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013387,0.007285,0.014076,-0.001841,-0.018406,-0.000812,-0.004346,0.003717,0.007156,-0.010993,-0.003182,0.011604,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000618,0.001725,-0.000964,-0.006706
Romans:Rome_Late_Antiquity,0.1130169,0.148775,0.0057355,-0.0298371,0.0238762,-0.012399,-0.0004504,-0.0026633,0.006792,0.0239033,0.0014005,0.0050268,-0.0083498,-0.003108,-0.0045523,-0.0004917,0.0042865,0.0005385,0.0032735,-0.0014902,-0.000993,0.0016075,-0.0009192,0.0002611,-0.0012474

Target: Bulgarian
Distance: 1.6088% / 0.01608786
56.2 Slavs
36.6 Romans
7.0 Proto-Bulgars
0.2 Magyars


Target: Gagauz
Distance: 1.8856% / 0.01885616
43.8 Slavs
41.8 Romans
14.4 Proto-Bulgars


Target: Hungarian
Distance: 1.4064% / 0.01406384
68.6 Slavs
30.0 Germans
1.0 Romans
0.4 Magyars


Target: Serbian
Distance: 1.8214% / 0.01821384
68.2 Slavs
31.8 Romans

And me 1/4 Csango magyar:

Target: Andre_scaled
Distance: 3.1148% / 0.03114771
45.8 Romans
45.8 Slavs
5.4 Germans
3.0 Magyars

right...

Distance: 2.8336% / 0.02833576
Target: Stearsolina_scaled

99.7 Slavs
0.3 Proto-Bulgars

[Jana]

This Reich is obviously an idiot when it comes to Balkans. Wouldn't take their suggestions seriously at all.