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[J. Ketch]

If others are reducing the regional averages based on too much similarity, England probably only needs 4 averages (Southeast/Southwest/Midlands/North), and Dutch 3 (North/Central/South). I'll let Lukasz decide.

[Dunai]

I started to look into the K15 Updated source and I noticed some things that I think should be corrected and improved upon:

Sicily is an absolute mess, why in the first place do so many regions needed for a rather small island:
East_Sicilian,9.75,13.27,6.39,2.26,17.36,14.43,26. 95,6.76,0.52,0.03,0.00,0.06,0.25,1.60,0.36
Italy_Central_Sicily,8.94,14.64,4.78,1.31,17.60,14 .12,29.14,6.68,0.05,0.15,0.03,0.14,0.20,1.84,0.36
Italy_East_Sicily,8.07,12.81,4.41,1.82,18.07,15.44 ,30.59,6.26,0.22,0.18,0.13,0.07,0.23,1.20,0.48
Italy_West_Sicily,9.37,13.38,4.79,1.71,18.12,13.93 ,30.01,5.89,0.32,0.25,0.05,0.16,0.21,0.98,0.85
Sicily_Palermo,9.2,14.08,4.66,1.91,18.3,14.52,28.6 4,5.94,0.23,0.22,0.05,0.12,0.24,1.16,0.73
Sicily_Ragusa,11.12,12.93,4.73,2.63,17.95,13.97,27 .54,6.07,0.21,0.04,0.37,0.07,0.17,1.19,1.02
Sicily_Syracuse,11,15.57,4.67,2.10,18.30,13.89,27. 23,4.66,0.16,0.31,0.18,0,0.23,0.95,0.75
Sicily_Enna,7.39,16.93,4.77,1.83,18.16,12.71,29.27 ,6.38,0.3,0.15,0.02,0,0.39,1.10,0.59
Sicily_Caltanisetta,9.17,14.82,4.89,1.43,18.03,14. 07,28.22,6.64,0.12,0.12,0.15,0.08,0.37,1.51,0.38
Sicily_Trapani,11.70,14.05,4.75,1.88,18.94,13.03,2 7.77,5.58,0.30,0.25,0.09,0.03,0.11,1.09,0.39
Sicily_Messina,8.21,12.78,4.16,1.84,18.56,14.77,30 .57,6.29,0.14,0.15,0.11,0.05,0.30,1.39,0.28
Sicily_Catania,8.42,14.04,4.03,1.89,18.05,14.97,30 .16,5.57,0.26,0.26,0.03,0.15,0.23,1.42,0.49
Sicily_Agrigento,9.18,13.12,5.12,1.76,18.22,13.22, 30.11,5.65,0.81,0.04,0.15,0.24,0.21,1.32,0.85
West_Sicilian,9.76,18.32,4.70,3.27,17.76,10.64,26. 75,5.37,0.57,0.19,0.08,0.01,0.52,1.33,0.72

This should probably be better renamed to Walloon:
FRA_Belgica,30.06,25.90,9.94,7.14,13.16,4.86,5.19, 1.51,0.65,0.21,0.22,0.33,0.20,0.26,0.38

In these replace FRA with French:
FRA_Central,27.38,27.39,8.88,6.00,16.19,3.96,6.85, 1.54,0.33,0.16,0.21,0.29,0.25,0.37,0.19
FRA_Alsace,28.49,24.36,12.31,7.12,12.76,5.91,6.23, 1.50,0.20,0.31,0.14,0.20,0.14,0.13,0.19
FRA_Armorica,33.63,28.77,9.43,8.78,10.92,3.51,2.23 ,0.79,0.81,0.15,0.14,0.39,0.18,0.15,0.12
FRA_Septimania,23.44,30.07,6.86,5.00,20.86,2.32,7. 92,1.58,0.42,0.08,0.14,0.41,0.38,0.36,0.15
FRA_Provence,21.75,23.86,7.06,4.44,18.01,6.15,14.5 5,2.44,0.32,0.13,0.18,0.25,0.24,0.47,0.16
FRA_Aquitania,20.30,39.32,4.81,2.49,24.29,0.77,4.4 4,1.91,0.45,0.30,0.23,0.20,0.21,0.17,0.13

In these replace GR into Greek:
GR_Macedonia,10.845,12.2383333333,13.4233333333,6. 9733333333,15.06,14.4533333333,22.6516666667,3.188 3333333,0.1866666667,0.1683333333,0.2716666667,0,0 .3683333333,0.175,0
GR_Peloponese,10.215,14.68875,10.57125,5.87625,15. 37375,13.35875,23.97125,3.76375,1.17875,0.2175,0.1 6625,0.10875,0.35125,0.15625,0

Only one should remain, and renamed into Kosovar:
Kosovo_Albanian,12.9577777778,17.17,12.5977777778, 5.7488888889,16.2822222222,12.4444444444,19.543333 3333,2.4611111111,0.2788888889,0.1011111111,0.1266 666667,0.1477777778,0.1333333333,0,0
Albanian-Kosovo,14.93,15.66,11.94,6.23,18.27,10.32,19.43,2. 54,0.09,0.30,0.04,0.04,0.21,0.00,0.00

Here also only one should remain:
Macedonian,15.415,15.55,16.2835714286,10.425,13.62 5,9.8878571429,16.0614285714,2.0085714286,0.21,0.1 207142857,0.0114285714,0.1507142857,0.2257142857,0 .0028571429,0.0207142857
Macedonian_2,14.32,14.52,13.71,9.18,15.61,10.30,18 .71,2.88,0.09,0.17,0.05,0.18,0.26,0.02,0.00

Same here:
Norwegian,39.73,23.47,13.26,11.48,6.36,2.24,0.80,0 .14,0.81,0.08,0.50,0.72,0.32,0.06,0.04
Norway,39.19,23.96,13.30,11.79,6.40,2.39,0.24,0.07 ,0.47,0.05,1.08,0.58,0.25,0.17,0.06

Here I think only one should remain:
Southwest_French,18.23,33.82,8.51,5.22,23.54,1.68, 6.12,1.97,0.21,0.04,0.21,0.38,0.02,0.05,0.00
FRA_Aquitania,20.30,39.32,4.81,2.49,24.29,0.77,4.4 4,1.91,0.45,0.30,0.23,0.20,0.21,0.17,0.13

Same here:
Tuscan,14.30,20.09,6.44,2.92,19.82,10.04,20.77,4.7 5,0.26,0.01,0.08,0.01,0.22,0.21,0.08
Italy_Tuscany,17.25,20.05,6.52,2.79,20.41,9.07,19. 20,3.54,0.57,0.25,0.02,0.06,0.14,0.08,0.02

[Leto]

I will work on making new Hungarian averages for K15, since it's the other calculator good for Europeans. I also like that it has that map feature. I was thinking on K12b at first, but then I noticed how few European regions it provides, it just doesn't look as suited for generally European populations as Eurogenes does. Maybe some other time.

You could at least revise the Hungarian average for Dodecad. I don't even need 5 different HUN references. 15 Hungarian samples from various parts of the country would be enough.

[Leto]

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[Abriekman]

K13 Updated Targeted

I use Ukrainian proxy for Polish and Russian

Distance: 261.7027% / 2.61702668
Target: Abriekman
54.9 Ukrainian_Belgorod
31.9 Ukrainian_Lviv
6.2 Bulgaria_Southcentral
2.8 Kurdish_Jewish
2.7 Algerian_Jewish
1.5 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya

The most accurate run for me, match my 23andme results perfectly, the same percentage of Eastern European as here

[Thracian]

I believe that we need a revision for K13.

I think, maybe I am wrong, some samples are contaminated or just outliers such as Greek Istanbul or Greek Macedonia Thrace. They have almost 1/8 foreign ancestry, or I am wrong as I mentioned.

On the other hand, we literally have samples from cities for Balkan Turks. I think they should be grouped like K12b.

[Chris596]

Here's PuntDNAL K15 for me, underrated calculator in my opinion:

Distance: 115.0292% / 1.15029196
Target: Chris | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.4 Serbian
3.0 Italian
2.6 Georgian
1.0 Japanese

Distance to: Chris (Top 5)
2.56803427 Serbian
4.82398176 Bosnian
5.69971929 Macedonian
7.58820137 Romanian
8.31798052 Bulgarian

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/puntdnal-k15-vahaduo.htm

[Ion Basescul]

Is Lucas no longer updating the averages?

[Lucas]

Is Lucas no longer updating the averages?

I am... I just wait for end of discussion and some general conclusion what to change I also agree there are especially too many Turkish, and specifically Balkan Turkish refs in K13. Should be groupped. Maybe by Kaspais.

[Ion Basescul]

I am... I just wait for end of discussion and some general conclusion what to change I also agree there are especially too many Turkish, and specifically Balkan Turkish refs in K13. Should be groupped. Maybe by Kaspais.

Please update these then. I don't think that anyone has any objections about them.

Also, do you know what happened to the gradient in the "Distance" tab? Now everything is coloured blue, so it's not working as intended.