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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora View Post
    Does anyone have Yagnobi results?
    Gedrosian: 30.19
    Siberian: 3.44
    Northwest_African: 0.00
    Southeast_Asian: 0.00
    Atlantic_Med: 8.34
    North_European: 22.10
    South_Asian 4.82
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 4.89
    East_Asian: 2.80
    Caucasian: 23.42
    SSA: 0.00

    Gedrosian: 28.88
    Siberian: 4.03
    Northwest_African: 0.00
    Southeast_Asian: 0.00
    Atlantic_Med: 5.78
    North_European: 23.74
    South_Asian 5.00
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 5.02
    East_Asian: 3.02
    Caucasian: 24.52
    SSA: 0.00

    Gedrosian: 30.54
    Siberian: 6.06
    Northwest_African: 0.06
    Southeast_Asian: 0.36
    Atlantic_Med: 7.67
    North_European: 21.60
    South_Asian 7.88
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 2.91
    East_Asian: 0.91
    Caucasian: 22.00
    SSA: 0.00

    Gedrosian: 32.56
    Siberian: 1.42
    Northwest_African: 0.06
    Southeast_Asian: 0.36
    Atlantic_Med: 5.65
    North_European: 21.11
    South_Asian 6.68
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 5.02
    East_Asian: 3.68
    Caucasian: 23.87
    SSA: 0.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Gedrosian: 30.19
    Siberian: 3.44
    Northwest_African: 0.00
    Southeast_Asian: 0.00
    Atlantic_Med: 8.34
    North_European: 22.10
    South_Asian 4.82
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 4.89
    East_Asian: 2.80
    Caucasian: 23.42
    SSA: 0.00

    Gedrosian: 28.88
    Siberian: 4.03
    Northwest_African: 0.00
    Southeast_Asian: 0.00
    Atlantic_Med: 5.78
    North_European: 23.74
    South_Asian 5.00
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 5.02
    East_Asian: 3.02
    Caucasian: 24.52
    SSA: 0.00

    Gedrosian: 30.54
    Siberian: 6.06
    Northwest_African: 0.06
    Southeast_Asian: 0.36
    Atlantic_Med: 7.67
    North_European: 21.60
    South_Asian 7.88
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 2.91
    East_Asian: 0.91
    Caucasian: 22.00
    SSA: 0.00

    Gedrosian: 32.56
    Siberian: 1.42
    Northwest_African: 0.06
    Southeast_Asian: 0.36
    Atlantic_Med: 5.65
    North_European: 21.11
    South_Asian 6.68
    East_African 0.00
    Southwest_Asian: 5.02
    East_Asian: 3.68
    Caucasian: 23.87
    SSA: 0.00
    Yeah, seems identical except slightly higher Eurasian by 2-3%.

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    Afghan

    Gedrosia 36.15 Pct
    Siberian 1.14 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.46 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 3.57 Pct
    North_European 15.63 Pct

    South_Asian 17.24 Pct
    East_African 1.01 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 3.99 Pct
    East_Asian 2.54 Pct
    Caucasus 18.26 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Hafiz
    2.51223009 Pashtun_Kandahar
    4.20069042 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
    5.38405981 Pashtun_Tarkalani
    5.87216314 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
    6.09559677 Tajik_Kabul
    7.37442201 Kho
    7.89596099 Pashtun_Yusafzai
    9.08417305 Kalash
    9.21024973 Nuristani
    9.69460159 Pamiri_Ishkashim

    Distance: 187.7128% / 1.87712846
    Target: Hafiz | ADC: 0.5x RC
    67.2 Pashtun_Kandahar
    25.3 Pashtun_Tarkalani
    7.5 Pamiri_Ishkashim

    Distance: 117.5952% / 1.17595235
    Target: Hafiz | ADC: 0.25x RC
    86.0 Pashtun_Kandahar
    6.4 Burusho
    4.9 Jatt
    1.6 Irish
    1.1 Somali

    His Eurogenes K13 components
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    Don't know what these two close relatives are. Look Volga/Ural + Central Asia to me

    R1b-DF98
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    Gedrosia 12.8 Pct
    Siberian 16.04 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 1.49 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 11.13 Pct
    North_European 27.37 Pct

    South_Asian 4.48 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 2.01 Pct
    East_Asian 14.47 Pct
    Caucasus 10.19 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Raj
    8.96700061 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    10.36499397 Bashkir
    14.90812530 Nogai_Astrakhan
    15.78073509 Turkmen_Afghanistan
    15.80740017 Uzbek
    17.70371995 Uzbeks
    17.91674915 Turkmen_TKM
    18.04652321 Tatar_Kazan
    19.24884152 Karakalpak
    20.01939560 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

    Distance: 126.2138% / 1.26213816
    Target: Raj | ADC: 0.25x
    45.3 Bashkir
    43.7 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    4.7 Jatt
    3.7 Irish
    2.0 Meena
    0.6 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal


    Gedrosia 14.06 Pct
    Siberian 16.86 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 1.1 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 10.49 Pct
    North_European 28.28 Pct

    South_Asian 3.37 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 1.7 Pct
    East_Asian 14.88 Pct
    Caucasus 9.24 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Scat
    9.10657455 Bashkir
    10.58606159 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    14.92815461 Nogai_Astrakhan
    16.24150239 Turkmen_Afghanistan
    16.48360701 Uzbek
    17.88827269 Uzbeks
    17.99573838 Tatar_Kazan
    18.95870512 Turkmen_TKM
    19.32480013 Karakalpak
    20.93866758 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

    Distance: 157.5468% / 1.57546848
    Target: Scat | ADC: 0.25x
    58.2 Bashkir
    25.6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    6.3 Burusho
    5.2 Irish
    4.7 Tajiks

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    An Afghan girl with massive Steppe ancestry. Would like to know where exactly she's from

    Gedrosia 34.31 Pct
    Siberian 5 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 1.92 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 3.31 Pct
    North_European 17.98 Pct

    South_Asian 12.53 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 2.7 Pct
    East_Asian 2.08 Pct
    Caucasus 19.9 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.28 Pct

    Distance to: Samira
    6.15108933 Pashtun_Kandahar
    6.47675073 Pamiri_Ishkashim
    8.19589531 Tajiks
    8.44490971 Pamiri_Shughnan
    8.85214098 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
    8.94615560 Pamiri_Rushan
    9.45469725 Tajik_Kabul
    9.69920615 Tajik_Herat
    9.73606697 Tajik_Tajikistan
    10.58955618 Yagnobi

    Distance: 272.1369% / 2.72136904
    Target: Samira | ADC: 0.5x RC
    49.7 Pashtun_Kandahar
    18.3 Tajiks
    17.5 Pamiri_Ishkashim
    14.5 Yagnobi

    Distance: 72.2032% / 0.72203227
    Target: Samira | ADC: 0.25x RC
    51.4 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
    15.3 Yagnobi
    11.9 Tajiks
    9.6 Pamiri_Ishkashim
    7.8 Lak
    2.8 Selkup
    1.2 Cambodians

    Her Eurogenes
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    A Turkic sample from Uyghur epoch from Mongolia, obviously mixed:

    Gedrosia: 25.41 Pct
    Siberian: 6.99 Pct
    Northwest_African: -
    Southeast_Asian: -

    Atlantic_Med: 4.3 Pct
    North_European: 20.44 Pct
    South_Asian: 3.18 Pct
    East_African: -
    Southwest_Asian: 5.98 Pct
    East_Asian: 7.11 Pct
    Caucasus: 26.59 Pct
    Sub_Saharan: -

    Distance to: Turkicmixed
    8.46571320 Tajik_Tajikistan
    9.66222024 Turkmen
    9.69564851 Turkmen_Iran
    9.88560570 Yagnobi
    12.68734015 Qumuq
    13.26145543 Tajiks
    13.73985080 Turkmen_TKM
    14.05281111 Tabasaran
    14.09634704 Lezgin
    14.48374951 Avar
    14.49599255 Iran_Khorasan
    14.62976760 Tajik_Herat
    14.89423378 Pamiri_Rushan
    15.07969164 Lak2
    15.18923303 Pamiri_Shughnan
    15.34089306 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    15.46633764 Dargin
    15.48069443 Lak
    16.44805156 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    17.34571993 Tajik_Balkh
    17.54338052 Nogai
    17.60608986 Pamiri_Ishkashim
    18.63219794 Chechen
    18.94686518 Uzbek
    19.16410708 Turk_Northwest

    Target: Turkicmixed
    45.1 Tajik_Tajikistan
    37.3 Qumuq
    17.1 Turkmen_TKM
    0.5 Turkmen_Iran


    Also someone from Mongolia, probably an Iranic person:

    Gedrosia: 29.14 Pct
    Siberian: 5.33 Pct
    Northwest_African: 1.66 Pct
    Southeast_Asian: -
    Atlantic_Med: 7.94 Pct
    North_European: 19.5 Pct
    South_Asian: 3.77 Pct
    East_African: 0.11 Pct
    Southwest_Asian: 5.34 Pct
    East_Asian: 2.75 Pct
    Caucasus: 24.1 Pct
    Sub_Saharan: 0.37 Pct

    Distance to: IranicMongolia
    4.55511800 Yagnobi
    7.77129333 Tajik_Tajikistan
    10.96379040 Pamiri_Rushan
    11.01413183 Tajiks
    11.69615749 Pamiri_Shughnan
    12.09602414 Turkmen
    12.25537433 Tajik_Herat
    12.32429714 Turkmen_Iran
    14.52270980 Pamiri_Ishkashim
    14.78776183 Iran_Khorasan
    14.85310405 Lezgin
    14.99078384 Tabasaran
    15.22657874 Qumuq
    15.39451526 Avar
    15.98598449 Dargin
    16.35894251 Lak2
    16.65324893 Pashtun_Kandahar
    16.70526264 Lak
    16.93130532 Tajik_Balkh
    17.87023223 Turkmen_TKM
    18.12872031 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    18.79667258 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    18.93375557 Tajik_Kabul
    19.94254247 Iran_Bandari
    20.09419568 Iranian_Fars

    Target: IranicMongolia
    79.4 Yagnobi
    13.5 Turkmen
    3.7 Turk_Southwest
    3.4 Maghrebi
    Last edited by Bender1999; 11-23-2020 at 07:30 PM.

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    A nomad from Khazar empire 550-850 AD, Y-Dna: R-Z2124 mtDNA: j1c51 :

    Gedrosia: 9.84 Pct
    Siberian: 22.51 Pct
    Northwest_African: 0.06 Pct
    Southeast_Asian: -
    Atlantic_Med: 10.67 Pct
    North_European: 32.1 Pct
    South_Asian: 0.53 Pct
    East_African: -
    Southwest_Asian: -

    East_Asian: 15.08 Pct
    Caucasus: 8.51 Pct
    Sub_Saharan: 0.3 Pct

    Distance to: Khazar
    4.30979118 Bashkir
    14.92531072 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    16.51393957 Tatar_Kazan
    16.64040865 Nogai_Astrakhan
    17.07370786 Mari
    17.59509307 Chuvash
    18.18406720 Udmurt
    21.17388250 Karakalpak
    21.32631708 Turkmen_Afghanistan
    23.11105147 Uzbeks
    Last edited by Bender1999; 11-23-2020 at 09:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    A Khazar:

    Gedrosia: 9.84 Pct
    Siberian: 22.51 Pct
    Northwest_African: 0.06 Pct
    Southeast_Asian: -
    Atlantic_Med: 10.67 Pct
    North_European: 32.1 Pct
    South_Asian: 0.53 Pct
    East_African: -
    Southwest_Asian: -

    East_Asian: 15.08 Pct
    Caucasus: 8.51 Pct
    Sub_Saharan: 0.3 Pct

    Distance to: Khazar
    4.30979118 Bashkir
    14.92531072 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    16.51393957 Tatar_Kazan
    16.64040865 Nogai_Astrakhan
    17.07370786 Mari
    17.59509307 Chuvash
    18.18406720 Udmurt
    21.17388250 Karakalpak
    21.32631708 Turkmen_Afghanistan
    23.11105147 Uzbeks
    Massive North European! Needless to say he's zero Semitic. Quite similar to the two people I posted earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Massive North European! Needless to say he's zero Semitic.
    Genetically very, very close a Bashkir, to be honest i dont think early Turkics had that amount of North European. I should edit this post, i am not sure about the ethnic background of this sample, but it seems to be Turkic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Genetically very, very close a Bashkir, to be honest i dont think early Turkics had that amount of North European. I should edit this post, i am not sure about the ethnic background of this sample, but it seems to be Turkic.
    Yeah, I agree. Definitely Turkic but more of a Volga variety, not Central Asian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    A nomad from Khazar empire 550-850 AD, Y-Dna: R-Z2124 mtDNA: j1c51 :

    Gedrosia: 9.84 Pct
    Siberian: 22.51 Pct
    Northwest_African: 0.06 Pct
    Southeast_Asian: -
    Atlantic_Med: 10.67 Pct
    North_European: 32.1 Pct
    South_Asian: 0.53 Pct
    East_African: -
    Southwest_Asian: -

    East_Asian: 15.08 Pct
    Caucasus: 8.51 Pct
    Sub_Saharan: 0.3 Pct

    Distance to: Khazar
    4.30979118 Bashkir
    14.92531072 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
    16.51393957 Tatar_Kazan
    16.64040865 Nogai_Astrakhan
    17.07370786 Mari
    17.59509307 Chuvash
    18.18406720 Udmurt
    21.17388250 Karakalpak
    21.32631708 Turkmen_Afghanistan
    23.11105147 Uzbeks
    The guy is an Onoghur Bulgar.

    He dates to the period of Great Bulgaria and Khazaria and lies in the middle of Great Bulgaria. Khazars were probably didn't even settled in the westernmost corner of their state during their rule, but used those Bulgars who already settled there as their subject.

    On the other hand, Khazar samples from another study show they were carrying more East Eurasian than this sample.



    See the runs:

    [1,] "Bashkir" "4.3098"
    [2,] "Crimean_Tatar_Steppe" "14.9253"
    [3,] "Tatar_Kazan" "16.5139"
    [4,] "Mari" "17.0737"
    [5,] "Chuvash" "17.5951"
    [6,] "Udmurt" "18.1841"
    [7,] "Karakalpak" "21.1739"
    [8,] "Uzbeks" "23.1111"
    [9,] "Uzbek" "23.3004"
    [10,] "Komi" "25.0623"
    [11,] "Kazakh" "26.0168"
    [12,] "Turkmen_Uzbekistan" "27.5137"
    [13,] "Uyghur" "28.7061"
    [14,] "Kyrgyz" "30.9222"
    [15,] "Hazara" "31.4107"
    [16,] "Veps" "31.6101"
    [17,] "Kyrgyz_Bishkek" "31.7307"
    [18,] "Nogai" "31.8274"
    [19,] "Turk_Deliorman" "32.0611"
    [20,] "HUN_Szekely" "32.1106"

    [1,] "31.9% Altai + 68.1% Tatar_Kazan" "1.7333"
    [2,] "91.2% Bashkir + 8.8% Bavarian_German" "2.2934"
    [3,] "90.9% Bashkir + 9.1% Slovenian" "2.3196"
    [4,] "90.7% Bashkir + 9.3% Croat" "2.3285"
    [5,] "89.8% Bashkir + 10.2% HUN_Szekely" "2.3365"
    [6,] "91% Bashkir + 9% Hungarians" "2.3651"
    [7,] "90.7% Bashkir + 9.3% Serb" "2.3692"
    [8,] "90.7% Bashkir + 9.3% Bosnian" "2.3924"
    [9,] "90.4% Bashkir + 9.6% MD_North" "2.4169"
    [10,] "91% Bashkir + 9% Montenegrin" "2.4405"
    [11,] "90.5% Bashkir + 9.5% MD_Center" "2.4634"
    [12,] "91.6% Bashkir + 8.4% German" "2.5076"
    [13,] "91.2% Bashkir + 8.8% Slovak" "2.5243"
    [14,] "92.2% Bashkir + 7.8% Italy_Trentino" "2.5252"
    [15,] "92% Bashkir + 8% English_South" "2.5321"
    [16,] "91% Bashkir + 9% Romanian" "2.5397"
    [17,] "92.1% Bashkir + 7.9% English_mixed" "2.5407"
    [18,] "91.2% Bashkir + 8.8% Macedonian" "2.5425"
    [19,] "92.1% Bashkir + 7.9% English_North" "2.562"
    [20,] "92.3% Bashkir + 7.7% Italy_Aosta_Valley" "2.5725"


    [1,] "31.9% Altai + 68.1% Tatar_Kazan" "1.7333"

    This clarifies the supposedly Bulgar origin of Kazan Tatars and shows how East Eurasian(Altaic) heritage went down over time.

    [1,] "Bashkir" "4.3098"

    Remember, Uyelgi and the rest of the Magyar samples we had also has been showing Bashkirs as their closest population. And remember the Turkic(Onoghur) language influences on modern-day Magyar. Both groups shows the Hunnic origin and a form of confederation. (Ugor-Onogur)

    Ugor dominated Hungary. Turkic dominated Bulgaria. Then Slavic migrations dominated Bulgaria, again.
    Onogur dominated the Urals. Then Kipchak migrations dominated the Urals, again.

    Interesting...

    [19,] "Turk_Deliorman" "32.0611"
    [20,] "HUN_Szekely" "32.1106"
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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