Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

[oszkar07]

Okay, in K13, delete these:
Hungarian,30.52,32.40,14.21,7.17,10.58,1.23,0.92,0 .51,1.19,0.56,0.36,0.19,0.16
Hungarian_Budapest,31.23,32.45,14.11,7.29,9.79,1.3 7,0.91,0.59,1.06,0.51,0.3,0.22,0.16
Hungarian_Transdanubia,31.72,31.63,13.96,7.34,10.5 6,1.07,0.98,0.4,1.08,0.56,0.31,0.17,0.2

And add these:
Hungarian,30.43,32.55,14.23,7.16,10.44,1.29,0.9,0. 54,1.19,0.55,0.36,0.2,0.15
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest,31.23,32.45,14.11, 7.29,9.79,1.37,0.91,0.59,1.06,0.51,0.3,0.22,0.16 (n=130)

Okay okay

Distance to: Oszkar
3.72317069 Austrian
5.04733593 German_East
6.84580163 German
7.93366246 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.14288647 Czech
8.20928133 Croat_north
8.25083632 Slovenian
8.82024943 Hungarian
9.59022419 Hungarian_Northern
9.87765876 Slovak
9.98206892 Hungarian_Alföld
10.03557173 FRA_Alsace
10.13897924 German_West
10.81012026 Swiss_German
11.34536469 Croat
11.34722874 North_German
11.42959317 Hungarian_Transylvania
11.68116861 Dutch_South
11.72224381 Swiss_German2
12.05646714 Pennsylvania_Dutch
12.07142494 Sorb_Lusatia
12.36786158 Székely
12.46889730 Croat_East
12.48244768 Sweden_Svealand_East
12.55726085 Swedish
12.70312954 Csángó
12.70418829 FRA_Belgica
12.93080431 Dutch
13.26481813 Swiss_French
13.46034546 Croat_Littoral
13.48333416 Dutch_Central
13.53704547 Dutch_North
13.72289692 North-Swedish
13.86021284 South_Polish
13.94702477 Sweden_Svealand_West
14.37213972 English_Southeast
14.55567587 Sweden_Götaland
14.57431302 Denmark
14.62748099 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
14.64223685 Bosniak_Bosnia_proper
14.68415813 English_Midlands
14.69716980 FRA_Armorica
14.82737333 Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina
14.83493175 Bosniak_Krajina
14.90192269 Norway_South_Central
14.96533661 English
15.09196806 Bosniak
15.24642253 Norwegian
15.36027018 Bosniak_Sarajevo
15.36411403 English_North

[Leto]

I removed all Balkan_Turk samples + Balkan Roma, because there are 2 Roma samples. The fit is worse for me. For Mortimer is the best calculator ever with this run. He scored exactly his known ancestry(documented). But as you see even Thracian who is a Balkan Turk scored Romani. I just think these samples are not good for us to fit our ancestry.

Distance: 204.4986% / 2.04498621
Target: Mortimer | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.8 Romani
22.1 Vlach_North-Macedonia
14.4 Romania_Oltenia
3.5 Pomak_Kavala
3.2 IT_Aosta_Valley

Distance: 345.0657% / 3.45065662
Target: Impaler | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.7 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
19.9 Greek_Northern-Thrace
19.0 FRA_Provence
8.3 Turkmen
4.6 Austroasiatic_Ho
2.6 Romani
2.2 Ashkenazi
0.7 Yoruban

Distance: 107.5214% / 1.07521442
Target: Thracian | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.9 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
40.5 Greek_Istanbul
13.2 Romani
3.0 Dolgan
1.4 Tadjik

Well, you do have South Asian, there is no point trying to explain that away. No county of Romania has the same amount as you do. You literally got 6.6% Chamar. I could have some doubts if there was no massive amount of samples collected by Ion Basescul. Your SA is ca. half of what Mortimer has and he is half Gypsy.
But ultimately even full Gypsies are only 30-35% proper South Asian ("Chamar"), so in quarter Gypsies it's pretty much miniscule (about 8%).

[Jana]

Well, you do have South Asian, there is no point trying to explain that away. No county of Romania has the same amount as you do. You literally got 6.6% Chamar. I could have some doubts if there was no massive amount of samples collected by Ion Basescul. Your SA is ca. half of what Mortimer has and he is half Gypsy.
But ultimately even full Gypsies are only 30-35% proper South Asian ("Chamar"), so in quarter Gypsies it's pretty much miniscule (about 8%).

Mortimer isn't half Gypsy but more than that (between 60-70%).

[Leto]

Mortimer isn't half Gypsy but more than that (between 60-70%).

I don't think so. Definitely not 70%. I treat him as a half Serb. But that doesn't matter, his South Asian is slightly more than twice as large as Impaler's, that was my point.

[Impaler]

Well, you do have South Asian, there is no point trying to explain that away. No county of Romania has the same amount as you do. You literally got 6.6% Chamar. I could have some doubts if there was no massive amount of samples collected by Ion Basescul. Your SA is ca. half of what Mortimer has and he is half Gypsy.
But ultimately even full Gypsies are only 30-35% proper South Asian ("Chamar"), so in quarter Gypsies it's pretty much miniscule (about 8%).

According to your logic one of my parents should be half Gypsy and that's impossible. How to be half Gypsy and to not know about it? You care too much about these amateurs results. If I had very recent Gypsy ancestry all of us should have known.

[Jana]

I don't think so. Definitely not 70%. I treat him as a half Serb. But that doesn't matter, his South Asian is slightly more than twice as large as Impaler's, that was my point.

No, he isn't half Serb because his Serb father is 1/4 Gypsy. His Gypsy mother is said to have some Russian ancestry though.
From what I saw he is above 60% Gypsy, not half at all.

[Jana]

According to your logic one of my parents should be half Gypsy and that's impossible. How to be half Gypsy and to not know about it? You care too much about these amateurs results. If I had very recent Gypsy ancestry all of us should have known.

You can test them and mystery will be solved. Do you score Indian/Pakistani on 23andme?

[Leto]

According to your logic one of my parents should be half Gypsy and that's impossible. How to be half Gypsy and to not know about it? You care too much about these amateurs results. If I had very recent Gypsy ancestry all of us should have known.

I don't know how it came to be. Maybe some of your recent ancestors simply assimilated successfully and didn't talk much about his/her roots. Or alternatively it may have come from both parents. Don't you get a few solid Romani matches? I think someone told me that. If you score it and also get reliable matches then it must be real. Such is the rule of thumb.

[Leto]

No, he isn't half Serb because his Serb father is 1/4 Gypsy. His Gypsy mother is said to have some Russian ancestry though.
From what I saw he is above 60% Gypsy, not half at all.

I think he has always said 56.25% Gypsy. Anyway, there was no point for you to pick on my message to another user. 50 or 56%, no huge difference.

[Ion Basescul]

I removed all Balkan_Turk samples + Balkan Roma, because there are 2 Roma samples. The fit is worse for me. For Mortimer is the best calculator ever with this run. He scored exactly his known ancestry(documented). But as you see even Thracian who is a Balkan Turk scored Romani. I just think these samples are not good for us to fit our ancestry.

Distance: 204.4986% / 2.04498621
Target: Mortimer | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.8 Romani
22.1 Vlach_North-Macedonia
14.4 Romania_Oltenia
3.5 Pomak_Kavala
3.2 IT_Aosta_Valley

Distance: 345.0657% / 3.45065662
Target: Impaler | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.7 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
19.9 Greek_Northern-Thrace
19.0 FRA_Provence
8.3 Turkmen
4.6 Austroasiatic_Ho
2.6 Romani
2.2 Ashkenazi
0.7 Yoruban

Distance: 107.5214% / 1.07521442
Target: Thracian | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.9 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
40.5 Greek_Istanbul
13.2 Romani
3.0 Dolgan
1.4 Tadjik

I can make it look good for you, if you give me your permission to model you with Roma. I know that some people take offense in this ancestry.