Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

[Dr_Maul]

What are those new samples with "_B" in G25? I saw Iranian_B

[Lucas]

What are those new samples with "_B" in G25? I saw Iranian_B

Recently unofficially converted by Davidski from some last paper on West Asia. There aren't in official sheet on his blog but were posted on Anthrogenica.
I added it on the end of every modern sheet for easier finding.

[Lucas]

If Creoda wants to add more German regions better to make for whole former West Germany north-west, central-west, south-west and south-east. If we follow the rule to not make too many small regions in K13 updated sheet.

[Ion Basescul]

Looking at the closeness of averages and given historical considerations I believe for Romania it's also plenty enough the three major historical regions: Moldavia, Transylvania+Banat, Wallachia+Dobruja.

No, it's not. Each one of them is quite different, and Romania is almost a 20m country. The one that could be removed perhaps is Romania_Wallachia, since it's the average of Muntenia and Oltenia.

[Leto]

Yep it is anachronistic. Most people on FB don't know what regions there are Will be changed.

Here is the map

Feel free to test my regional French K13 and K15 averages. This is a continuation of:
(BTW, I intend to supplement with more samples, but they should already be good)

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...netic-clusters

Use with Vahaduo - Attachment 98857

Eurogenes K13:

FRA_Central,42.40,18.28,20.55,4.81,9.80,1.59,0.49,0.26,0.36,0.46,0.37,0.38,0.24
FRA_Alsace,40.65,22.72,16.81,6.48,9.58,1.60,0.39,0.47,0.25,0.36,0.27,0.16,0.26
FRA_Armorica,48.53,22.11,15.45,5.52,4.38,1.00,1.19,0.25,0.31,0.59,0.29,0.22,0.17
FRA_Belgica,43.27,20.59,17.19,6.01,8.41,1.49,0.81,0.36,0.38,0.48,0.30,0.27,0.43
FRA_Septimania,41.77,14.33,26.39,2.70,10.79,1.43,0.55,0.18,0.26,0.58,0.53,0.33,0.17
FRA_Provence,35.19,14.10,22.05,6.40,17.59,2.34,0.36,0.26,0.26,0.40,0.37,0.42,0.24
FRA_Aquitania,48.61,8.24,32.74,0.95,5.49,1.52,0.92,0.35,0.26,0.27,0.31,0.20,0.14

Eurogenes K15:

FRA_Central,27.38,27.39,8.88,6.00,16.19,3.96,6.85,1.54,0.33,0.16,0.21,0.29,0.25,0.37,0.19
FRA_Alsace,28.49,24.36,12.31,7.12,12.76,5.91,6.23,1.50,0.20,0.31,0.14,0.20,0.14,0.13,0.19
FRA_Armorica,33.63,28.77,9.43,8.78,10.92,3.51,2.23,0.79,0.81,0.15,0.14,0.39,0.18,0.15,0.12
FRA_Belgica,30.06,25.90,9.94,7.14,13.16,4.86,5.19,1.51,0.65,0.21,0.22,0.33,0.20,0.26,0.38
FRA_Septimania,23.44,30.07,6.86,5.00,20.86,2.32,7.92,1.58,0.42,0.08,0.14,0.41,0.38,0.36,0.15
FRA_Provence,21.75,23.86,7.06,4.44,18.01,6.15,14.55,2.44,0.32,0.13,0.18,0.25,0.24,0.47,0.16
FRA_Aquitania,20.30,39.32,4.81,2.49,24.29,0.77,4.44,1.91,0.45,0.30,0.23,0.20,0.21,0.17,0.13

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Swiss German Eurogenes K13 and K15:

Swiss_German,41.14,21.44,17.58,6.72,10.25,1.25,0.30,0.10,0.30,0.38,0.36,0.11,0.08

Swiss_German,29.02,24.29,11.25,7.06,13.51,5.61,7.40,1.10,0.15,0.01,0.10,0.21,0.17,0.07,0.04

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Edit:

Languedoc renamed Septimania:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimania

Alsace and Provence can remain, I think. Those are widely known regions. But the rest are less obvious except for Central of course.

Armorica = Northwest_French
Belgica = Northeast_French
Aquitania = Southwest_French
Languedoc = South_French

[Jana]

If Creoda wants to add more German regions better to make for whole former West Germany north-west, central-west, south-west and south-east. If we follow the rule to not make too many small regions in K13 updated sheet.

Germany is at least most populous European country if Russia is excluded. But I agree. Italy, Spain and Greece have too many averages for example.
I am suprised there isn't western Polish average by the way, pretty sure Peterski can easily make one if he wants. Because from what I saw they are genetically distinct from you for example.
Such average would be an improvement.

[MoroLP]

Italy, Spain, and Greece have too many averages for example.

Hmm, Italy and Spain are incomparable to Greece with the size of the country and population. Italy and Spain, excluding Russia (and Turkey), are Top 5 European countries by population so it's fine if they have more than double 4-5 regional averages based on their administrative division. Greece (~10 million) has a population that is two times lower than Romania (~20 million), and almost the same thing is about their respective country area. Besides Italy and Spain, Germany, France, England, Ukraine, Poland, Romania, and the Netherlands statistically should or can have more than double 4-5 regional averages, perhaps according to their administrative division or else.

No, it's not. Each one of them is quite different, and Romania is almost a 20m country. The one that could be removed perhaps is Romania_Wallachia, since it's the average of Muntenia and Oltenia.

I'm not familiar with the administrative and historical/genetical division of Romania and Romanians and didn't check it now, but currently, there are 10 regional averages, perhaps should be lowered to 7, having averaged Romania_Moldavia and removing Muntenia and Oltenia if Wallachia is their average.

[Leto]

Let's keep in mind not all countries can be simply divided into North, South, etc. Some nations do have a more complex genetic history. Also many countries are unevenly populated. I know most people here are European but let's look at Egypt for example. Obviously the Nile valley would be the most important

Spoiler!

[Jana]

Hmm, Italy and Spain are incomparable to Greece with the size of the country and population. Italy and Spain, excluding Russia (and Turkey), are Top 5 countries by population so it's fine if they have more than double 4-5 regional averages based on their administrative division. Greece (~10 million) has a population that is two times lower than Romania (~20 million), and almost the same thing is about their respective country area. Romania also should have a bit more than 4-5 regional averages.

Agree, but Greece has far more genetic diversity than Spain for example. Iberians are very homogenous considering how big and populous their peninsula is.
Greece has Anatolian Greeks, Pontics, Islanders, Mainlanders, Cypriots, they are all very different from each other. But even with that having almost 30 averages is simply far too much.

[Lucas]

Here is the map

Alsace and Provence can remain, I think. Those are widely known regions. But the rest are less obvious except for Central of course.

Armorica = Northwest_French
Belgica = Northeast_French
Aquitania = Southwest_French
Languedoc = South_French

I did it already.