Biggest genetic misconceptions that persist?

[Ethel]

Benevento area that shows elevated numbers of germanic Y-DNA (40% I believe)

Do you mind providing source for it? I don't mean to contradict you but I'm also very skeptical this could be the case.

[Samnium]

Do you mind providing source for it? I don't mean to contradict you but I'm also very skeptical this could be the case.

Maybe I exagarated a bit, it's more like 30% Y-DNA, but still very significant.



I don't know why in the Boattini study, people from Benevento showed consistently less "germanic Y-DNA" but Benevento is bordering Campobasso so it's more or less the same area.

[Cernunnos]

About what was being discussed in the previous pages about Ashkenazis being lighter than Portuguese even if the Portuguese plot northern and score more "Northern" Euro compared to Jews.

Well I believe not only genes don't equate with phenotype as someone already said, also climate plays a role. To give an example, where my parents were raised in the peak of the summer, temperatures can easily pass the 40º celsius mark. I believe the Iberian peninsula is home to the warmest climate in Europe. European Jews mostly living in Central European have lived without those temperatures for millenia, have devoloped a more light skin with time (Jews are known to live in the present day german territory since 321) until the 21st century. Also probably they mixed a bit with local populations specialy with Italians and with Poles/Germans. Most Jews live in New England (except for California probably), which has a very similar temperature to Northern Europe and even gives a Euro vibe, which even facilitated European colonization in that region.

[Ethel]

Maybe I exagarated a bit, it's more like 30% Y-DNA, but still very significant.



I don't know why in the Boattini study, people from Benevento showed consistently less "germanic Y-DNA" but Benevento is bordering Campobasso so it's more or less the same area.

Interesting.
My subclade (L22+), namely the scandinavian cluster from I1 tree, comes precisely from a town in eastern Benevento province that once belonged to Molise, and it's located a bit closer to Campobasso than to Benevento city itself (it's actually between both cities), so it's most likely derived from Longobards.

Can't say much about their autosomal because I've never seen any Beneventan G25 coordinates or gedmatch kits. It's located in the Samnium region, it should be distinct from Napoli and Salerno and closer to people from Molise and Foggia.

[Ethel]

On the other topic being previously discussed about Ashkenazis being lighter than Portuguese even if the Portuguese plot northern and score more "Northern" Euro compared to Jews.

Well I believe not only genes don't equate with phenotype as someone as already said, also climate plays role. To give an example, where my parents were raised in the peak of the summer temperatures can easily pass the 40º celsius mark. I believe the Iberian peninsula is home to the warmest climate in Europe. European Jews mostly living in Central European have lived without those temperatures have devoloped a more light skin with the time (Jews are known to live in the present day german territory since 321) until the 21st century. Also probably they mixed a bit with local populations specialy with Italians and with Poles/Germans.

It takes a much longer time for the climate to naturally select a population based on its melanin and chances of surviving. At this time, people were already removed from the natural environment that allowed this selection to occur for a long time (they already lived in houses etc.) and that doesn't explain eyes and hair pigmentaton. Instead, it seems phenotype is more influenced by recent genetic inputs in the gene pool (?)

[Samnium]

Interesting.
My subclade (L22+), namely the scandinavian cluster from I1 tree, comes precisely from a town in eastern Benevento province that once belonged to Molise, and it's located a bit closer to Campobasso than to Benevento city itself (it's actually between both cities), so it's most likely derived from Longobards.

Can't say much about their autosomal because I've never seen any Beneventan G25 coordinates or gedmatch kits. It's located in the Samnium region, it should be distinct from Napoli and Salerno and closer to people from Molise and Foggia.

Very interesting. I do agree that people from Benevento wouldn't be similar to Naples or Salerno (Southern Campania) people, definitely not.

Still, I would think that longobard autosomal input would be limited to some percentages. Someone did a model back in time, modelling people from Molise, they didn't showed more than 3-4% Lombard.

[Chris596]

- Hungarians can't have African ancestry
- Every Hungarian has some German ancestry
- Hungarians are a mix of West-North-East-South Europe

B!tch please, look at me. Nobody believed me when I said I think it's possible even for Hungarians to have some SSA ancestry.

[Kamal900]

That the AE's were Blacks even though that's completely untrue since the genetic relations between Egypt and their Levantine neighbors goes waaaay back, even way before the formation of the AE civilization itself, and the reason why Egyptians, both ancient and modern, Arabians and Southern Levantine Muslims can be put together in the same bio-geographic region or cluster is explained here:
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post729794

Both Egyptians and Arabians share common genetic stock from the ancient Levant, and the reason why Palestinian and Jordanian Muslims are close to these two is due to admixtures from them in contrast to Northern Levantine Muslims who are very admixed with West Asiatics like Iranians and so on.
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post727405

[Abriekman]

Maybe non-whites think that, but most people have been beaten on the head enough times with the anti-semitism card to not delude themselves into thinking it's just a religion, even if they might say something stupid like that for tactical reasons.

Ashkenazi's are German Jews, and they've been modelled as 35-60% European, so half is not an unreasonable estimate, even though I'd already edited that out of my post.

Not true, show me even one model, when they are more than 40% European. 35% Southern European is average, Italian-like, which is not fully European

[Abriekman]

Distance: 0.6277% / 0.00627650
Target: Ashkenazi_Germany
26.8 Possible_Levantine_Antiquity
22.4 Italian_Iron_Age
12.4 Possible_Mesopotamian_Antiquity
10.3 Possible_North_African_Antiquity
7.3 Possible_Central_Anatolian_Antiquity
6.6 Eastern_European
5.1 Possible_Cypriot_Antiquity
4.3 Iberian_Iron_Age
4.0 Possible_Greek/Western_Anatolian_Antiquity
0.8 Egyptian_Antiquity



Distance: 1.0613% / 0.01061272
Target: Ashkenazi_Poland
19.8 Possible_Mesopotamian_Antiquity
18.8 Eastern_European
18.0 Italian_Iron_Age
15.2 Possible_Levantine_Antiquity
14.0 Possible_North_African_Antiquity
12.1 Possible_Central_Anatolian_Antiquity
2.1 Possible_Cypriot_Antiquity


Eastern European is CZE_Early_Slav, even not Hun_Avar_Szolad, which is more northern and is Polish-like