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    Quote Originally Posted by Javid View Post
    I think these can be considered as minimum EE among Azerbaijanis (turks). They also have the highest North European and the lowest SW Asian for Azerbaijanis

    Guba, North Azerbaijan:

    Gedrosian: 23.1
    Siberian: 2.28
    NW African: 0.26
    SE Asian: 0.59
    Atlantic Med: 7.72
    North European: 16.58
    South Asian: 1.37
    East African: 0.00
    SW Asian: 7.00
    East Asian 0.00
    Caucasus: 41.11
    Sub_Saharan: 0.00

    Darband, Dagestan (Azerbaijani)

    Gedrosian: 23.88
    Siberian: 1.96
    NW African: 0.45
    SE Asian: 0.00
    Atlantic Med: 6.5
    North European: 16.78
    South Asian: 2.96
    East African: 0.00
    SW Asian: 7.07
    East Asian 0.28
    Caucasus: 40.13
    Sub_Saharan: 0.00
    So the Northern European(Turkic-originated) inherited more than usual while EE inherited less than usual in such cases. These two guys probably Turkic as much as the average, but the Turkic admixture they bear is mostly West Eurasian.

    I have seen many such cases among Anatolian and Balkan Turks as well.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    So the Northern European(Turkic-originated) inherited more than usual while EE inherited less than usual in such cases. These two guys probably Turkic as much as the average, but the Turkic admixture they bear is mostly West Eurasian.

    I have seen many such cases among Anatolian and Balkan Turks as well.
    I think in this case it's just North Caucasian admixture. Both are either from Dagestan or bordering it (Quba). They probably can be modelled as Azerbaijani + Lezgic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    around 2-3% in Republic and Dagestan

    lowest in Iran so far is 4.78%

    in Turkey there hasn't been a result below 5%

    at least according to my database (n=200)
    Heilige Scheiße, you have 200 Azerbaijanis?! That's huge man and we still use the average of 10 samples, lol. I'd like to see your full Iran/Az spreadsheet including all the stuff I've posted in these threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Heilige Scheiße, you have 200 Azerbaijanis?! That's huge man and we still use the average of 10 samples, lol. I'd like to see your full Iran/Az spreadsheet including all the stuff I've posted in these threads.
    Origin is not clear of all kits, so I prefer not to make an average out of all of them. But I can think of making a new average with only 100% Azerbaijani confirmed kits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    I think in this case it's just North Caucasian admixture. Both are either from Dagestan or bordering it (Quba). They probably can be modelled as Azerbaijani + Lezgic
    That's why I'm still not convinced your supposed Tsakhur is legit. I accept only one Tsakhur as pure, the one that scores like Dagestanis. The other two seem mongrelized Azerbaijanis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    That's why I'm still not convinced your supposed Tsakhur is legit. I accept only one Tsakhur as pure, the one that scores like Dagestanis. The other two seem mongrelized Azerbaijanis.
    The Tsakhur might be mixed with Azerbaijanis by large parts, so that doesn't make the average non-legit. The idea that they have to be 100% Lezgic is stupid. I can say with certainty that all the Tsakhur samples are confirmed legit from Tsakhurs in Azerbaijan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    I think in this case it's just North Caucasian admixture. Both are either from Dagestan or bordering it (Quba). They probably can be modelled as Azerbaijani + Lezgic
    Yeah, could be. I miss that option.

    They model roughly half Eastern Anatolian Turk and half Lezgin:

    [1,] "56.3% Lak2 + 43.7% Turk_East" "1.1944"
    [2,] "48.1% Dargin + 51.9% Turk_East" "1.262"
    [3,] "48.3% Lak + 51.7% Turk_East" "1.4382"
    [4,] "33.5% Armenian_West + 66.5% Lak2" "1.4929"
    [5,] "51.3% Tabasaran + 48.7% Turk_East" "1.5769"
    [6,] "41.2% Armenian_West + 58.8% Dargin" "1.6774"
    [7,] "52.9% Lak2 + 47.1% Udi_Azerbaijan" "1.6822"
    [8,] "59.9% Lezgin + 40.1% Turk_East" "1.7197"
    [9,] "32.1% Assyrian_West + 67.9% Lak2" "1.7787"
    [10,] "44.6% Dargin + 55.4% Udi_Azerbaijan" "1.8012"
    [11,] "32.1% Assyrian_South + 67.9% Lak2" "1.8777"
    [12,] "32.5% Assyrian_North + 67.5% Lak2" "1.8826"
    [13,] "64.2% Chechen + 35.8% Kurd_Kurmanji" "1.9016"
    [14,] "41% Armenian_West + 59% Lak" "1.9045"
    [15,] "90.1% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 9.9% Greek_Izmir" "1.9071"
    [16,] "47.8% Tabasaran + 52.2% Udi_Azerbaijan" "1.9123"
    [17,] "38.1% Armenian_West + 61.9% Tabasaran" "1.9572"
    [18,] "90.9% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 9.1% Greek_Foca" "1.9587"
    [19,] "91.3% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 8.7% Greek_Icaria" "1.9815"
    [20,] "39.7% Assyrian_West + 60.3% Dargin" "1.9865"
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Origin is not clear of all kits, so I prefer not to make an average out of all of them. But I can think of making a new average with only 100% Azerbaijani confirmed kits.
    The spreadsheet would still be interesting to look at even if most are just marked as IR or AZ.

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    Some kit

    Gedrosia 21.32 Pct
    Siberian 2.31 Pct
    Northwest_African 1.77 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 6.18 Pct
    North_European 8.67 Pct
    South_Asian 3.68 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 12.41 Pct
    East_Asian 4.33 Pct
    Caucasus 39.31 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Scarlett
    3.04875384 Azerbaijani_Iran
    3.68827873 Azerbaijani
    4.17549997 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    5.98009197 Kurd_Kurmanji
    6.26530127 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.38536608 Turk_Southeast
    6.51859647 Zaza
    6.98249239 Kurd_Sorani
    7.29171448 Yazidi
    8.86822417 Turk_Central_East

    Distance: 1.5080% / 1.50795998
    Target: Scarlett | ADC: 0.25x RC
    31.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
    26.7 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    18.8 Kumyks
    18.0 Iran_Arab
    2.5 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
    2.4 Japanese

    Distance: 2.8424% / 2.84244929
    Target: Scarlett | ADC: 0.5x RC
    94.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
    3.2 Nogai
    2.4 Kumyks

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    Magars- Tibeto-Burmese ethnicity
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    Sample East Asian Southeast Asian South Asian Siberian Gedrosia North European Caucasus East African Atlantic Med Southwest Asian Northwest African
    Magar ► Ma23 71.73 13.13 8.23 6.1 0.81 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Magar ► Ma07 53.79 16.3 18.23 7.58 3.76 0 0 0 0.19 0.16 0
    Magar ► Ma11 52.44 19.16 14.22 9.33 2.89 0.74 0 0 0.96 0.26 0
    Magar ► Ma30 51.28 14.8 19.04 7.73 6.45 0.04 0 0.65 0 0 0
    Magar ► Ma28 49.17 13.82 20.11 6.86 9.1 0.62 0.33 0 0 0 0
    Magar ► Ma41 45.35 18.15 21.12 5.33 8.8 0.09 0 0 0 0.19 0.98

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