Ukrainian academic regional k13 results - more than 100

[vbnetkhio]

Is this person the academic sample from Chernivtsi Oblast shared by you and Peterski?

yes, that's the older sample.

[cass]

What do you mean? There is nothing in my post that would indicate surprise. That person is obviously mixed with a non-local immediate family member.

I mean, considering the history of this region.

[vbnetkhio]

Ukraine Kiev samples in K13:

Kiev1,25.90,43.89,11.21,6.22,9.75,1.23,0,0,0,0.45,0.76,0,0.60
Kiev2,24.96,43.94,10.33,3.70,9.55,4.60,0,1.88,0.38,0.66,0,0,0
Kiev3,23.77,49.06,9.75,9.69,3.57,0,0.42,0.72,2.11,0.01,0.78,0.12,0
Kiev4,27.38,48.11,6.10,8.34,4.55,0.07,0,0,3.24,1.25,0,0.96,0
Kiev5,26.12,45.57,11.25,6.45,5.25,2.80,0,0,0.59,0,0.20,0.63,1.14
Kiev6,28.24,45.91,9.33,6.24,4.44,0.37,2.48,0.59,0,1.33,0.32,0,0.75
Kiev7,24.76,46.18,9.87,5.59,5.87,0,1.66,0,3.45,1.54,0.97,0.11,0
Kiev8,25.76,47.13,8.90,6.63,4.48,3.13,0.86,0.75,2.21,0,0,0.14,0
Kiev9,27.26,48.08,8.13,5.86,7.37,0.35,0.43,0,0.66,0.54,1.31,0,0
Kiev10,26.62,46.05,10.63,7.83,2.95,0,1.69,0,0.71,0.66,1.94,0,0.91
Kiev11,30.66,39.21,9.84,6.72,6.55,0.03,0.89,0,3.59,1.13,0.66,0,0.72
Kiev12,27.57,41.15,11.52,5.94,7.44,1.92,1.00,0,1.92,0.60,0.72,0,0.21
Kiev13,20.27,48.74,12.57,5.24,7.98,1.76,0.26,0,1.10,1.67,0.41,0,0
Kiev14,24.60,49.59,10.17,5.69,4.01,1.18,1.62,0,0,2.20,0,0,0.95
Kiev15,27.54,42.91,10.90,3.83,10.66,0,0,1.78,1.10,0.39,0,0,0.89
Kiev16,25.40,48.89,11.12,4.27,6.78,0,0,0,2.00,0,0.71,0,0.84
Kiev17,25.55,44.10,10.38,6.00,8.04,2.03,1.35,0.93,1.63,0,0,0,0
Kiev18,25.38,47.01,10.20,6.63,6.37,2.01,0.05,0,1.02,0.69,0.18,0.46,0
Kiev19,22.98,47.96,8.16,7.58,8.57,0.13,1.97,0.02,2.38,0,0.24,0,0
Kiev20,25.89,48.78,8.33,6.13,4.61,1.78,2.01,0,0.37,1.65,0,0,0.44
Kiev21,28.71,44.44,11.73,6.36,5.11,0,1.07,0.64,0,0.74,0.74,0.19,0.27
Kiev22,24.93,45.25,12.96,4.40,6.87,1.28,0.46,0.76,0,1.85,0,0.35,0.90
Kiev23,27.85,38.47,15.23,4.14,8.27,1.41,1.72,0,1.28,0.29,1.29,0.03,0
Kiev24,29.73,43.76,12.04,3.33,4.41,1.25,1.88,0.05,1.66,0.57,1.23,0.09,0
Kiev25,15.10,46.29,8.45,8.68,2.46,1.15,0.66,0.75,13.71,1.53,0.01,0,1.21
Kiev26,23.57,37.18,7.85,20.02,4.47,1.15,1.88,0,2.47,0,0.20,0.66,0.56
Kiev27,26.13,40.35,10.92,7.13,11.15,0.60,1.89,0,0.68,0.30,0.29,0.56,0

I think you also mentioned another set of Ukrainians with Czech-like outliers? or i mixed something up

[Aspirin]

yes, that's the older sample.

Ok, so nothing new from this region, except the heavily mongoloid person. Nice.

[Alenka]

i mean the relatives on gedmatch. i'll upload the sample.

Yep, I know. If you check that out please let us know what you find.
Kinda curious if I guessed right.

[Leto]

Is this person the academic sample from Chernivtsi Oblast shared by you and Peterski?

Not by me but I've seen it before.

[Leto]

I mean, considering the history of this region.

That sample is decidedly atypical. Volga Tatars are rare in Ukraine, mostly in the East, cities like Donetsk, Kharkov, etc.

[Peterski]

Kiev in Dodecad K12b:

Kiev1,4.67,0,1.63,0.39,21.75,52.34,0,0,4.42,0,14.25,0.55
Kiev2,3.88,0.96,0,0.33,22.12,50.06,0,0,5.1,1.19,16.36,0
Kiev3,4.97,1.62,0,0.77,22.52,56.52,0,0,0,0,13.59,0
Kiev4,3.36,2.97,0,0,18.29,59.91,1.26,0,0.82,0,13.13,0.27
Kiev5,3.11,0.08,0,0.16,22.2,55.05,0,0.79,2.89,0,14.44,1.28
Kiev6,3.19,0,0,1.94,22.65,56.17,1.64,0.3,0,0,14.08,0.01
Kiev7,6.06,3.16,1.81,0.45,20.8,55.85,0.84,0,0,0,11.02,0
Kiev8,3.37,2.14,0,0.7,20.48,56.28,0,0,3.02,0,14.02,0
Kiev9,2.21,1.48,1.26,0,20.9,58.72,0.52,0,1.09,0,13.82,0
Kiev10,5.39,1.03,0.65,1.1,22.45,56.72,0.99,0,0.42,0,10.8,0.44
Kiev11,5.92,2.42,0,0,23.62,51.84,1.47,0,3.7,0.36,10.67,0
Kiev12,4.65,1.71,0.17,0.89,24.54,52.56,0,0.44,3.19,0,11.85,0
Kiev13,3.84,0.91,0,0,21.91,57.13,0.31,0,3.14,0,12.76,0
Kiev14,4.23,1.38,1.8,0,19.88,57.99,0.86,0,0.19,0,13.44,0.24
Kiev15,2.77,0.98,0.02,2.55,24.42,52.15,0,0,2.18,0.45,14.46,0.03
Kiev16,1.19,2.11,0,0,22.76,57.82,0,0,2.69,0,13.01,0.42
Kiev17,3,1.7,0.29,0.48,21.47,54.52,1.16,0,3.77,0.13,13.48,0
Kiev18,5.84,1.49,0,0,21.94,56.73,0,0.07,1.9,0,12.02,0
Kiev19,4.02,0.51,0,0,19.47,56.33,1.4,0,1.11,1.38,15.79,0
Kiev20,2.79,0.78,0,0.82,20.9,59.02,2.57,0,1.71,0,11.4,0
Kiev21,3.56,0.88,0,0.48,27.01,53.67,1.1,0,1.09,0,11.83,0.39
Kiev22,1.88,0,1.04,1.58,20.61,58.38,0.5,0,1.35,0.41,14.01,0.23
Kiev23,0.9,1.69,0.76,0,24.3,50.13,2.51,0,1.92,0,17.8,0
Kiev24,0,1.54,0.57,0,23.71,56.74,2.44,0.13,2.09,0,12.78,0
Kiev25,5.1,13.17,0,0,14.99,50.04,0.12,0,2.16,4.03,10.39,0
Kiev26,11.88,2.31,0,0,19.74,47.24,0,0.69,1.04,0,17.1,0
Kiev27,5.38,0,0,0,24.42,49.81,0.8,1.58,1.58,0,16.42,0

I think you also mentioned another set of Ukrainians with Czech-like outliers?

Yes, the ones from Pagani 2016.

[Abriekman]

That guy is shady as fuck. He has claimed a lot of things, even Black ancestry. I believe he is from Ivano-Frankovsk oblast but also claims Polish ancestry from his paternal side.

There was guy on Anthrogenica called Moldovlah and posted his results with 15% Ethiopian, I think it is same person, he helped me with my minor ancestry and was banned 2 months ago

[Leto]

I think you also mentioned another set of Ukrainians with Czech-like outliers? or i mixed something up

Very Nordo-Slavic

Ukrainian_Kiev,25.65,45.11,10.29,6.62,6.35,1.12,0.97,0.33,1.79,0.74,0.48,0.16,0.38

Distance to: Ukrainian_Kiev
3.02834939 Russian_Southwest
3.49564014 Ukrainian
3.55477144 Moldova_Ukrainian
4.14335613 Ukrainian_Belgorod
4.30327782 Ukrainian_Lviv
5.35142972 Russian_Smolensk
5.51816999 Russian_average
5.80876063 Polish
5.88860765 Estonian_Polish
6.08623858 South_Polish

Distance: 1.0489% / 1.04885528
Target: Ukrainian_Kiev | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.1 Russian_Southwest
26.1 Ukrainian_Lviv
18.8 Moldova_Ukrainian