Ukrainian academic regional k13 results - more than 100

**~~Ion Basescul~~** · 12-27-2020, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Peterski

Russians are only 13% in Kiev based on 2001 census. Well and Western Ukraine was historically (and some parts still are) heavily Polish?

There were also for example German & other (Czech, Vlach, etc.) colonies in Western Ukraine, both in Galicia, Volhynia and other regions.

BTW wasn't it you who posted Y-DNA study from a village in Moldova (?) that was historically Polish and the authors called it "Ukrainian"?

Not me probably, as I am aware of only two studies from villages in Moldova, Sofia in Drochia district and Carahasani in Stefan Voda. It's true that there are some non-Moldovan surnames in Sofia, but most seem to be Moldovan. We discussed about a Polish village, but I think that was in Transnistria.
And this is different, because it's about Y-DNA.

I am not a fan of gathering samples from the capital, not just in Ukraine. You guys probably haven't seen those from Budapest that were posted the other week, where some scored like average Romanians, others like Ukrainians and some also like Hungarians. That's just the nature of the biggest city in any country to be attractive to all kind of ethnicities. A better strat if they want to gather samples from Kiev is to go to the villages on the outskirts, since those are likelier to be inhabited by people with only Ukrainian ancestors.

**cass** · 12-27-2020, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Aspirin

Maybe he is connected to these guys, they lived in the region 300 years ago. This is the first thing who came in my mind to explain his results.

Chernivtsi was part of Moldova so Lipka is rather doubtful. Can be any Eurasian steppe ancestry.

http://lemko.org/scholar/DNA.pdf

**~~Ion Basescul~~** · 12-27-2020, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Peterski

I just wonder why Ion stresses Ukrainian-Russian mixing in East/Central Ukraine, but forgets about Polish-Ukrainian mixing for 7 centuries (1300s-1900s) in West/Central Ukraine.

Kubiyovych wrote about Ukrainization of Poles (although the opposite process - Polonization of Ukrainians - was more common until 1939):

I don't have a problem with historic Russian-Ukrainian mixing for example in Sumy or Chernihiv oblasts, because there this mix is so old that it is wrong to not consider it part of the Ukrainian diversity at this point. But for some places in Southern Ukraine, Donbass in the East, and definitely the capital, the admixture with Russians can be very recent from Soviet times. I don't see why we should treat the recent mixing with Russians preferentially as opposed to mixing with Jews or Tatars. If we don't count the latter mixes as full Ukrainians then so shouldn't the former.

**~~Ion Basescul~~** · 12-27-2020, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by Aspirin

Maybe he is connected to these guys, they lived in the region 300 years ago. This is the first thing who came in my mind to explain his results.

I think that it's simpler than this. Internal migration in Soviet times didn't happen only towards cities and towns. Others were brought to villages and this is probably such an individual. There is another one from Kiev with 5% more Siberian than this one.

**Lucas** · 12-27-2020, 01:10 AM

If you considered those two columns in sample_list.csv? Most samples have "no" in first But I'm not sure if it means parents were just from different localities in the same region?

Sigle source origin local ancestry

Multiple sources of local ancesrty - parents from different regions

**Jana** · 12-27-2020, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Aspirin

This person is user galychanyn from forum.molgen and balto-slavica, I know his results very well. He is from a village located only 5 km from Polish border.

Code:

Ukraine_Lvivska:molgen_,26.87,34.92,15.12,5.00,15. 09,0.32,0.00,0.88,0.40,0.52,0.22,0.67,0.00

Very similar to my results, except that he has lower West Asian and higher East Med than me.

Code:

Stearsolina,27.8,35.43,15.9,10.2,9.6,0.01,0,0.78,0.21,0,0,0,0

Moldovan admixed Ukrainian?

**Lemgrant** · 12-27-2020, 07:01 AM

oh yes

Distance to: Lemgrant(Ukrainian)

Code:

2.26746555	Ukraine_Sumska:Lebedyn_district_Kaminne_EG600077
2.65802558	Ukraine_Rivnenska:Volovymyrets_district_Velyki_Tseptsevychi_EG600041_
2.75495916	Ukraine_Harkivska:r1a1c_
2.75996377	Ukraine_Donetska:Gorlivka_EG600026
2.78948024	Ukrainian
2.83524249	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:Dnipropetrovsk_district_Kirovske_EG600074
2.88104148	Ukraine_Sumska:R1a1b_
2.97006734	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:Dnipropetrovsk_district_Pidhorodnye_EG600071
3.38811157	Ukraine_Lvivska:EG600063_
3.42160781	Ukraine_Donetska:apricity_
3.49511087	Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:Ovruch_EG600028
3.61517634	Ukraine_Sumska:Ohtyrka_EG600080
3.63833753	Ukraine_Chernihivska:Kulykiv_district_Kovchyn_EG600060
3.64927390	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_EG600094
3.88500965	Ukraine_Rivnenska:R1b8_
3.91139361	Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:EG600050_
3.93728333	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:EG600066_
3.94309523	Ukraine_Zaporizka:r1a1d_
3.95232843	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:EG600065_
4.03879933	Ukraine_Chernihivska:Kozelets_district_Lemeshi_EG600053
4.08782338	Ukraine_Harkivska:EG600023_
4.14188363	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Mukachevo_EG600088
4.19017899	Polish
4.19404340	Ukraine_Poltavska:Kremenchuk_EG600015
4.29235367	Ukraine_Donetska:Slovyansk_EG600025
4.29563732	Ukraine_Cherkaska:Hrystynivka_district_Rossoshky_EG600087
4.39421210	Moldova_Ukrainian
4.44359089	Ukraine_Chernihivska:Ripky_district_Syberezh_EG600055
4.45540122	Russian_Southwest
4.63774730	Ukrainian_Lviv
4.66953959	Ukraine_Chernihivska:Chernihiv_district_Redkivka_EG600059
4.75028420	Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:R1a1a_
4.75980042	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:EG600069_
4.82976190	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:EG600072_
4.86636415	Russian_Smolensk
4.89253513	Ukraine_Lvivska:Skole_district_Nyzhne_Synevydne_EG60006_
4.89265776	Ukraine_Rivnenska:EG600044_
4.91361374	Estonian_Polish
4.93487588	Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:EG600047_
4.96360756	Ukraine_Sumska:R1a1c_
5.01535642	Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:Korosten_district_Veselivka_EG600045
5.06745498	Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:Zhytomyr_district_Veresy_EG600049
5.07242546	Ukraine_Sumska:Sumy_district_Solidarne_EG600078
5.10807204	Ukraine_Rivnenska:EG600042_
5.24621769	Ukraine_Rivnenska:Sarny_EG600039
5.31759344	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:EG600070_
5.32799212	Ukraine_Kropyvnytska:Novomyrgorod_EG600022
5.34422118	Ukraine_Chernihivska:EG600056_
5.34880360	Ukraine_Sumska:Krasnopillya_district_Ugroidy_EG600081
5.35220515	Ukraine_Rivnenska:Volodymyrets_EG600017
5.35493231	Ukraine_Donetska:Makiivka_EG600029
5.40901100	Ukraine_Rivnenska:EG600043_
5.43307464	Russian_average
5.51336558	Ukraine_Chernihivska:Ripky_EG600057
5.56237359	South_Polish
5.57481838	Ukraine_Cherkaska:Tsherk_UCH945
5.58900707	Masurian
5.59027727	Ukraine_Rivnenska:Korets_district_Ustya_EG600040
5.60466770	Ukraine_Sumska:EG600086_
5.62811691	Ukraine_Sumska:EG600079_
5.63836856	Ukraine_Zaporizka:Berdyansk_EG600013
5.72449124	Ukraine_Rivnenska:Berezne_district_Zorne_EG600037
5.73073294	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:EG600068_
5.74974782	Ukraine_Chernihivska:EG600051_
5.82874772	Ukrainian_Belgorod
5.83270092	Ukraine_Kyivska:Bila_Tserkva_EG600091_
5.91976351	Ukraine_Chernihivska:Chernihiv_district_Kovpyta_EG600054
5.95634116	Ukraine_Chernihivska:R1a1c_
6.04074499	Ukraine_Sumska:Krasnopillya_district_Porozok_EG600083
6.04614753	Rivne_apricity
6.06892083	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Velykyj_Bereznyj_district_Malyj_Bereznyj_EG600016
6.12630394	Ukraine_Sumska:EG600085_
6.13572327	Ukraine_Rivnenska:Berezne_district_Zorne_EG600038
6.26704875	Belorussian
6.30848635	Ukraine_Chernihivska:Tshern_Ucering2209
6.33060029	Ukraine_Sumska:EG600084_
6.40670742	Ukraine_Lvivska:Lviv_ULV293
6.48349443	Ukraine_Krym:Krasnoperekopsk_EG600031
6.50865578	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_EG600095
6.51832034	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_EG600098
6.58953716	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:EG600073_
6.64000753	Ukraine_Sumska:EG600082_
6.74506486	Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:EG600046_
6.98648696	Ukraine_Cherkaska:Zlotonosha_
7.06135964	Ukraine_Lvivska:EG600064_
7.12087775	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_EG600034
7.16702867	Ukraine_Volynska:Kovel_EG600021
7.19829841	Ukraine_Ternopilska:Monastyrysk_district_Kovalivka_EG600030
7.22318489	Ukraine_Lvivska:EG600062_
7.54428923	Ukraine_Kropyvnytska:EG600092_
7.67326528	Sorb_Lusatia
7.73115774	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Velykyj_Bereznyj_EG600020_
7.74272562	Ukraine_Lvivska:Sambir_EG600033
7.98888603	Ukraine_Lvivska:Mykolaiv_EG600061
8.02960148	Ukraine_Chernihivska:Chernihiv_district_Karhivka_EG600052
8.09095174	Russian_Kostroma
8.21936737	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:EG600067_
8.36210500	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Svalyava_EG60003
8.49098934	Russian_Kargopol
8.51674821	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Mukachiv_district_Zavydovo_EG600012
9.00279401	Ukraine_Ivano-Frankivska:Rogatyn_EG600024
9.19890211	Ukraine_Lvivska:Mykolaiv_district_Novyj_Rozdil_EG600090_
9.35772943	Ukraine_Ivano-Frankivska:apricity_
9.35819961	Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:EG600075_
9.54244728	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_district_Lyahivtsi_EG60005
9.63707424	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_EG600096
9.67432685	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Vynogradiv_district_Oleshnyk_EG60009
9.72875634	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.83358531	Slovak
10.02168648	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_district_Hudlevo_EG600076
10.17847238	Ukraine_Lvivska:Turka_EG600089
10.43280403	Lithuanian
10.48434070	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Mizhgirya_district_Kolochava_EG600032
10.62965663	Estonian
10.66257474	Ukraine_Lvivska:Sambir_EG600014
10.75312978	Ukraine_Ivano-Frankivska:apricity_
10.80966234	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_EG600036
10.83034164	Czech
11.08191770	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Perechyn_EG600097
11.20586900	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Irshava_district_Dobrobratovo_EG60002
11.54386417	Ukraine_Lvivska:Turka_district_Kryvka_EG600018
11.55354491	Erzya_Mordovian
11.95182413	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Vynogradiv_district_Koroleve_EG600027
11.95991221	Hungarian_Northern
12.53711689	Finnish
12.84091897	East_Finnish
12.84921009	Ukraine_Ivano-Frankivska:apricity_
13.13820764	Croat_North
13.16945709	Ukraine_Chernivetska:R1a1c_
13.19056860	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Tyachiv_district_Ternovo_EG600010
13.36369709	Slovenian
13.49856289	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Mukachiv_district_Zavydovo_EG60007
13.68485294	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Rahiv_district_Kosivska_Polyana_EG60001_
13.70735204	Russian_Pinega
13.72284227	Southwest_Finnish
13.76100650	Croat_East
14.37748239	Hungarian_Alföld
14.76094509	Latvian
14.82983142	Hungarian
14.90031208	Moldova_North
14.91201864	Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
14.95283251	Croat
15.05577298	Ukraine_Lvivska:molgen_
15.23939303	German_East
15.36941118	Ukraine_Ternopilska:Berezhany_district_Narajiv_EG600011
16.22925445	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Tyachiv_district_Krychovo_EG60004
16.60218058	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Vynogradiv_EG600035
16.88557372	Bosniak
16.89305183	Croat_West
16.96351379	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Perechyn_district_Turji_Remety_EG60008_
17.07562005	Ukraine_Chernivetska:Zastavne_district_Zadubrivka_EG600019
17.11063704	Croat_South
18.40284217	Csángó
18.93671038	Serb_north
19.06064794	Romania_Moldavia_North
19.06119356	Hungarian_Transylvania
19.34864078	Austrian
19.35292226	Moldova_Centre
19.37908925	Székely
19.49484547	Moldova_average
20.49880240	Serb
20.58742820	Serb_central
20.61308808	o_Ukraine_Zaporizka:r1a2b
21.15484814	North-Swedish
21.45946411	Romania_Maramures
21.49183799	o_Ukraine_Luhansk:Lugansk_EG600093
21.73660277	Tatar
23.14758735	Sweden_Svealand_East
23.42856590	Romania_Moldavia_South
23.52410891	Romania_Crisana
24.01708767	German
24.18472865	Serb_south
24.35401404	Romania_Transylvania
24.69791894	Romania_average
25.05615493	Chuvash
25.25443327	Montenegrin
25.42469076	Romania_Banat
25.68910080	Bulgaria_Northwestern
25.88229704	Romania_Oltenia
26.01128025	Swedish
26.14434929	Moldova_South
26.53561192	Romania_Dobruja
26.54307631	Bosniak_Sandzak
26.61840529	Romania_Wallachia
27.01345035	Romania_Muntenia
27.16302450	North_German
27.33174711	Sweden_Svealand_West
27.36001279	Bulgaria_Southwestern
27.48361330	France_Alsace
27.80269951	Pomak_Bulgaria
27.89696041	German_West
27.91784555	Bulgaria_average
27.92284549	Bulgaria_Northcentral
28.07263436	Swiss_German
28.53098666	Pomak_Greece
28.59823421	Afrikaner
28.68268467	Sweden_Götaland
28.83395915	Bulgaria_Southcentral
29.04603415	Denmark
29.04845435	Swiss_German2
29.11149086	Swiss_French
29.11366346	Norway_South_Central
29.34512736	Dutch_North
29.38104831	Dutch_South
29.57434192	Norwegian
29.58997465	Dutch
29.61166324	Bulgaria_Northeastern
29.62300964	Pennsylvania_Dutch
29.89105886	Dutch_Central
30.45647550	France_north-east
30.52207280	Macednia_north
30.61431365	Moldova_South_Gagauzia
30.88112854	MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE
30.97623605	Mari
31.28198363	Bulgaria_Southeastern
31.39903979	English_Southeast
31.61452198	English_Midlands
31.75432982	Macedonia_south
31.76263056	Turk_Deliorman
31.79480461	English
31.92106671	English_North
31.98192771	France_north-west
32.18590841	Orcadian
32.39361511	English_Southwest
32.64774418	Greek_Northern-Thrace
32.68485276	Welsh
32.88866826	France_Central
32.90344663	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
33.20797495	IT_Trentino
33.38989967	Scottish
33.46760822	IT_Friuli-VG
33.61799816	Irish_Leinster
34.05851142	Irish_Connacht
34.16065720	Irish
34.36860486	West_Scottish
34.54680014	Irish_Munster
34.86365156	IT_Aosta_Valley
34.97230476	French
35.05701071	Turk_Makedonya
35.06415121	Irish_Ulster
35.30066713	Albanian_Gheg
35.84236460	Turk_Trakya
35.85412110	IT_Veneto
36.04995700	Swiss-Italian2
36.07647017	Torbesh_average
36.20230932	Albanian
36.33663716	Swiss_Italian
36.39638169	France_Provence
36.46012068	Crimean_Tatar
36.89344115	IT_Piedmont
36.96792292	Greek_Thessaly
37.11177845	Greek_Central_Macedonia
37.49210984	Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
37.60774521	Greek_Northeast
37.96499835	Albanian_Tosk
38.08158479	France_south
38.44064255	Greek_West_Macedonia
38.50562167	Greek
38.91291688	Greek_West
39.05818608	Greek_Eastern-Thrace
39.10604813	Bashkir
39.21262552	Spanish_Galicia
39.49952658	IT_Lombardy
39.72328410	Portuguese
39.75677301	IT_Emilia
39.76294632	Greek_Peloponnese
39.78126946	IT_Liguria
39.92641482	Spanish_Cataluna
40.59652325	Southwest_French
40.84708558	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
40.95366162	Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
41.01325883	Greek_Istanbul
41.22015648	Italian
41.26061803	Greek_Western-Thrace
41.41866487	IT_Tuscan
41.49379472	IT_Romagna
41.65113084	Spanish_Cantabria
41.66197907	Turk_Crete
41.73498413	Spanish_Extremadura
42.09169871	Spanish_Valencia
42.19966825	Spanish
42.30915504	Greek_Central
42.42434325	Spanish_Murcia
42.96755171	Greek_Athens
43.14727338	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
43.23255255	IT_Umbria
43.66821270	IT_Marche
43.81425795	IT_Lazio
43.98554649	Spanish_Andalucia
44.64613757	France_Corsica
45.00680837	Greek_Andros_Island
45.49362922	Spanish_Aragon
45.54800105	o_Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:EG600048
45.90739919	Greek_Ionia
45.91619213	Greek_Cyclades
46.53429918	IT_Abruzzo
46.99642327	IT_Basilicata
47.06053761	IT_Molise
47.50478713	IT_Apulia
47.66772073	Gypsy_Wallachia

Code:

Distance: 0.0821% / 0.08206538
Target: Lemgrant(Ukrainian)

21.5	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_EG600094
10.2	Estonian
9.9	Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:Zhytomyr_district_Veresy_EG600049
7.1	Ukraine_Cherkaska:Hrystynivka_district_Rossoshky_EG600087
7.0	Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:EG600047_
6.8	Latvian
6.3	Rivne_apricity
4.8	Ukraine_Lvivska:EG600063_
4.4	Ukraine_Ternopilska:Monastyrysk_district_Kovalivka_EG600030
4.4	Ukraine_Volynska:Kovel_EG600021
2.6	Ukraine_Rivnenska:Berezne_district_Zorne_EG600038
2.3	Ukraine_Sumska:Ohtyrka_EG600080
1.4	Ukraine_Harkivska:r1a1c_
1.3	Ukraine_Chernihivska:Chernihiv_district_Redkivka_EG600059
1.3	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:EG600069_
1.3	Ukraine_Sumska:R1a1b_
1.2	French_Basque
1.2	Sardinia
1.1	Ukraine_Rivnenska:R1b8_
0.9	Southwest_French
0.8	Karitiana
0.8	Ukraine_Lvivska:Skole_district_Nyzhne_Synevydne_EG60006_
0.5	Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:EG600075_
0.4	Pima
0.3	Ukraine_Rivnenska:Volodymyrets_EG600017
0.1	Ukraine_Chernihivska:EG600056_
0.1	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:Dnipropetrovsk_district_Pidhorodnye_EG600071

Code:

Distance: 0.2660% / 0.26598896
Target: Lemgrant(Ukrainian) | ADC: 0.25x RC

23.9	Ukrainian
20.8	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_EG600094
16.2	Ukraine_Zhytomyrska:Zhytomyr_district_Veresy_EG600049
13.7	Ukraine_Rivnenska:Volovymyrets_district_Velyki_Tseptsevychi_EG600041_
9.5	Ukraine_Sumska:R1a1b_
8.4	Ukraine_Harkivska:r1a1c_
6.4	Ukraine_Rivnenska:Berezne_district_Zorne_EG600037
1.1	Karitiana

Code:

Distance: 1.0744% / 1.07444099
Target: Lemgrant(Ukrainian) | ADC: 0.5x RC

37.3	Ukraine_Harkivska:r1a1c_
25.4	Ukrainian
18.3	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:Dnipropetrovsk_district_Kirovske_EG600074
14.7	Ukraine_Rivnenska:Volovymyrets_district_Velyki_Tseptsevychi_EG600041_
3.8	Ukraine_Sumska:Lebedyn_district_Kaminne_EG600077
0.5	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:Dnipropetrovsk_district_Pidhorodnye_EG600071

Code:

Distance: 1.0745% / 1.07449755
Target: Lemgrant(Ukrainian) | ADC: 1x RC

37.5	Ukraine_Harkivska:r1a1c_
25.6	Ukrainian
18.4	Ukraine_Dnipropetrovska:Dnipropetrovsk_district_Kirovske_EG600074
14.8	Ukraine_Rivnenska:Volovymyrets_district_Velyki_Tseptsevychi_EG600041_
3.7	Ukraine_Sumska:Lebedyn_district_Kaminne_EG600077

Code:

Distance: 1.6484% / 1.64836876
Target: Lemgrant(Ukrainian) | ADC: 2x RC

59.1	Ukraine_Sumska:Lebedyn_district_Kaminne_EG600077
40.9	Ukrainian

**Lemgrant** · 12-27-2020, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

the averages by oblast, sorted by their Baltic score:

_	North_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast_African	Sub0Saharan
Volynska	24.50	49.74	12.13	7.65	2.00	0.76	0.00	1.54	0.73	0.09	0.70	0.00	0.15
Kyivska	23.42	46.90	9.51	6.86	6.93	0.99	0.08	1.25	1.98	0.00	0.64	0.00	1.44
Chernihivska	25.98	46.86	10.17	6.38	5.64	1.07	1.22	0.52	0.76	0.40	0.53	0.31	0.17
Sumska	27.34	46.20	9.75	5.30	6.04	0.89	1.18	0.53	1.07	0.72	0.53	0.11	0.33
Dnipropetrovska	26.69	46.12	10.08	6.00	4.67	1.13	0.99	0.45	2.26	0.71	0.47	0.23	0.22
Donetska	26.36	45.99	9.85	5.77	6.48	0.99	0.75	0.47	1.93	0.71	0.26	0.11	0.34
Rivnenska	27.38	45.98	10.70	5.48	5.36	0.69	0.70	0.19	1.21	1.01	0.69	0.22	0.39
Zhytomyrska	26.43	45.83	10.39	6.19	7.02	0.56	0.86	0.25	1.11	0.53	0.40	0.21	0.24
Poltavska	25.00	45.47	11.05	3.70	7.89	0.52	2.27	1.04	0.55	1.23	1.15	0.00	0.11
Harkivska	27.11	44.73	12.09	5.57	5.16	1.40	0.65	0.02	1.34	1.12	0.56	0.10	0.18
Zaporizka	26.93	44.33	10.28	4.87	8.61	0.53	1.87	0.01	1.66	0.47	0.36	0.00	0.11
Cherkaska	27.57	43.85	10.39	5.49	7.03	0.69	0.98	0.19	2.80	0.25	0.47	0.28	0.00
Krym	29.03	42.58	9.40	4.38	10.12	0.05	0.97	0.03	0.68	0.84	1.09	0.78	0.06
Kropyvnytska	27.51	42.28	11.30	6.27	6.89	0.07	3.65	0.00	0.55	0.63	0.46	0.10	0.32
Lvivska	28.10	39.51	12.30	6.91	8.35	1.29	1.01	0.38	1.28	0.42	0.26	0.14	0.07
Zakarpatska	26.94	38.49	12.59	7.54	9.15	1.20	1.15	0.38	1.34	0.68	0.29	0.14	0.12
Ivano-Frankivska	27.97	37.03	13.70	6.71	8.56	2.04	1.08	0.48	1.45	0.56	0.18	0.14	0.10
Ternopilska	26.28	36.83	15.73	8.55	9.07	0.04	0.73	0.61	1.05	0.76	0.32	0.02	0.03
Chernivetska	24.35	34.81	10.48	10.75	9.29	1.21	0.32	1.36	5.44	0.90	0.46	0.52	0.12
Ukrainian_avg	26.73	42.52	11.24	6.64	7.50	1.03	1.07	0.41	1.39	0.64	0.43	0.19	0.21

sample size:

Zakarpatska	24
Lvivska	12
Sumska	12
Chernihivska	11
Dnipropetrovska	10
Rivnenska	11
Zhytomyrska	8
Donetska	4
Ivano-Frankivska	4
Cherkaska	3
Zaporizka	2
Chernivetska	2
Harkivska	2
Kropyvnytska	2
Ternopilska	2
Krym	1
Kyivska	1
Poltavska	1
Volynska	1

Vahaduo format:

Code:

Volynska,24.50,49.74,12.13,7.65,2.00,0.76,0.00,1.54,0.73,0.09,0.70,0.00,0.15
Kyivska,23.42,46.90,9.51,6.86,6.93,0.99,0.08,1.25,1.98,0.00,0.64,0.00,1.44
Chernihivska,25.98,46.86,10.17,6.38,5.64,1.07,1.22,0.52,0.76,0.40,0.53,0.31,0.17
Sumska,27.34,46.20,9.75,5.30,6.04,0.89,1.18,0.53,1.07,0.72,0.53,0.11,0.33
Dnipropetrovska,26.69,46.12,10.08,6.00,4.67,1.13,0.99,0.45,2.26,0.71,0.47,0.23,0.22
Donetska,26.36,45.99,9.85,5.77,6.48,0.99,0.75,0.47,1.93,0.71,0.26,0.11,0.34
Rivnenska,27.38,45.98,10.70,5.48,5.36,0.69,0.70,0.19,1.21,1.01,0.69,0.22,0.39
Zhytomyrska,26.43,45.83,10.39,6.19,7.02,0.56,0.86,0.25,1.11,0.53,0.40,0.21,0.24
Poltavska,25.00,45.47,11.05,3.70,7.89,0.52,2.27,1.04,0.55,1.23,1.15,0.00,0.11
Harkivska,27.11,44.73,12.09,5.57,5.16,1.40,0.65,0.02,1.34,1.12,0.56,0.10,0.18
Zaporizka,26.93,44.33,10.28,4.87,8.61,0.53,1.87,0.01,1.66,0.47,0.36,0.00,0.11
Cherkaska,27.57,43.85,10.39,5.49,7.03,0.69,0.98,0.19,2.80,0.25,0.47,0.28,0.00
Krym,29.03,42.58,9.40,4.38,10.12,0.05,0.97,0.03,0.68,0.84,1.09,0.78,0.06
Kropyvnytska,27.51,42.28,11.30,6.27,6.89,0.07,3.65,0.00,0.55,0.63,0.46,0.10,0.32
Lvivska,28.10,39.51,12.30,6.91,8.35,1.29,1.01,0.38,1.28,0.42,0.26,0.14,0.07
Zakarpatska,26.94,38.49,12.59,7.54,9.15,1.20,1.15,0.38,1.34,0.68,0.29,0.14,0.12
Ivano-Frankivska,27.97,37.03,13.70,6.71,8.56,2.04,1.08,0.48,1.45,0.56,0.18,0.14,0.10
Ternopilska,26.28,36.83,15.73,8.55,9.07,0.04,0.73,0.61,1.05,0.76,0.32,0.02,0.03
Chernivetska,24.35,34.81,10.48,10.75,9.29,1.21,0.32,1.36,5.44,0.90,0.46,0.52,0.12
Ukrainian_avg,26.73,42.52,11.24,6.64,7.50,1.03,1.07,0.41,1.39,0.64,0.43,0.19,0.21

note: Ukrainian_avg is just the average of all single samples.

Code:

Distance to:	Lemgrant(Ukrainian)


1.54576842	Rivnenska
1.87811075	Harkivska
2.38296034	Sumska
2.51543237	Dnipropetrovska
2.68460425	Donetska
2.78948024	Ukrainian
2.84864880	Zhytomyrska
3.21289589	Chernihivska
3.37655150	Cherkaska
4.01625447	Zaporizka
4.19017899	Polish
4.19404340	Poltavska
4.31244710	Ukrainian_avg
4.39421210	Moldova_Ukrainian
4.45540122	Russian_Southwest
4.63774730	Ukrainian_Lviv
4.86636415	Russian_Smolensk
4.91361374	Estonian_Polish
4.92657082	Kropyvnytska
5.43307464	Russian_average
5.56237359	South_Polish
5.58900707	Masurian
5.82874772	Ukrainian_Belgorod
5.83270092	Kyivska
6.26704875	Belorussian
6.48349443	Krym
7.16702867	Volynska
7.30382092	Lvivska
7.67326528	Sorb_Lusatia
8.09095174	Russian_Kostroma
8.49098934	Russian_Kargopol
8.59957557	Zakarpatska
9.72875634	Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.78360874	Ivano-Frankivska
9.83358531	Slovak
10.43280403	Lithuanian
10.62965663	Estonian
10.83034164	Czech
11.13484620	Ternopilska
11.55354491	Erzya_Mordovian
11.95991221	Hungarian_Northern
12.53711689	Finnish
12.84091897	East_Finnish
13.13820764	Croat_North
13.36369709	Slovenian
13.70735204	Russian_Pinega
13.72284227	Southwest_Finnish
13.76100650	Croat_East
13.81016654	Chernivetska
14.37748239	Hungarian_Alföld
14.76094509	Latvian
14.82983142	Hungarian
14.90031208	Moldova_North
14.91201864	Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
14.95283251	Croat
15.23939303	German_East
16.88557372	Bosniak
16.89305183	Croat_West
17.11063704	Croat_South
18.40284217	Csángó
18.93671038	Serb_north
19.06064794	Romania_Moldavia_North
19.06119356	Hungarian_Transylvania
19.34864078	Austrian
19.35292226	Moldova_Centre
19.37908925	Székely
19.49484547	Moldova_average
20.49880240	Serb
20.58742820	Serb_central
21.15484814	North-Swedish
21.45946411	Romania_Maramures
21.73660277	Tatar
23.14758735	Sweden_Svealand_East
23.42856590	Romania_Moldavia_South
23.52410891	Romania_Crisana
24.01708767	German
24.18472865	Serb_south
24.35401404	Romania_Transylvania
24.69791894	Romania_average
25.05615493	Chuvash
25.25443327	Montenegrin
25.42469076	Romania_Banat
25.68910080	Bulgaria_Northwestern
25.88229704	Romania_Oltenia
26.01128025	Swedish
26.14434929	Moldova_South
26.53561192	Romania_Dobruja
26.54307631	Bosniak_Sandzak
26.61840529	Romania_Wallachia
27.01345035	Romania_Muntenia
27.16302450	North_German
27.33174711	Sweden_Svealand_West
27.36001279	Bulgaria_Southwestern
27.48361330	France_Alsace
27.80269951	Pomak_Bulgaria
27.89696041	German_West
27.91784555	Bulgaria_average
27.92284549	Bulgaria_Northcentral
28.07263436	Swiss_German
28.53098666	Pomak_Greece
28.59823421	Afrikaner
28.68268467	Sweden_Götaland
28.83395915	Bulgaria_Southcentral
29.04603415	Denmark
29.04845435	Swiss_German2
29.11149086	Swiss_French
29.11366346	Norway_South_Central
29.34512736	Dutch_North
29.38104831	Dutch_South
29.57434192	Norwegian
29.58997465	Dutch
29.61166324	Bulgaria_Northeastern
29.62300964	Pennsylvania_Dutch
29.89105886	Dutch_Central
30.45647550	France_north-east
30.52207280	Macednia_north
30.61431365	Moldova_South_Gagauzia
30.88112854	MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE
30.97623605	Mari
31.28198363	Bulgaria_Southeastern
31.39903979	English_Southeast
31.61452198	English_Midlands
31.75432982	Macedonia_south
31.76263056	Turk_Deliorman
31.79480461	English
31.92106671	English_North
31.98192771	France_north-west
32.18590841	Orcadian
32.39361511	English_Southwest
32.64774418	Greek_Northern-Thrace
32.68485276	Welsh
32.88866826	France_Central
32.90344663	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
33.20797495	IT_Trentino
33.38989967	Scottish
33.46760822	IT_Friuli-VG
33.61799816	Irish_Leinster
34.05851142	Irish_Connacht
34.16065720	Irish
34.36860486	West_Scottish
34.54680014	Irish_Munster
34.86365156	IT_Aosta_Valley
34.97230476	French
35.05701071	Turk_Makedonya
35.06415121	Irish_Ulster
35.30066713	Albanian_Gheg
35.84236460	Turk_Trakya
35.85412110	IT_Veneto
36.04995700	Swiss-Italian2
36.07647017	Torbesh_average
36.20230932	Albanian
36.33663716	Swiss_Italian
36.39638169	France_Provence
36.46012068	Crimean_Tatar
36.89344115	IT_Piedmont
36.96792292	Greek_Thessaly
37.11177845	Greek_Central_Macedonia
37.49210984	Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
37.60774521	Greek_Northeast
37.96499835	Albanian_Tosk
38.08158479	France_south
38.44064255	Greek_West_Macedonia
38.50562167	Greek
38.91291688	Greek_West
39.05818608	Greek_Eastern-Thrace
39.10604813	Bashkir
39.21262552	Spanish_Galicia
39.49952658	IT_Lombardy
39.72328410	Portuguese
39.75677301	IT_Emilia
39.76294632	Greek_Peloponnese
39.78126946	IT_Liguria
39.92641482	Spanish_Cataluna
40.59652325	Southwest_French
40.84708558	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
40.95366162	Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
41.01325883	Greek_Istanbul
41.22015648	Italian
41.26061803	Greek_Western-Thrace
41.41866487	IT_Tuscan
41.49379472	IT_Romagna
41.65113084	Spanish_Cantabria
41.66197907	Turk_Crete
41.73498413	Spanish_Extremadura
42.09169871	Spanish_Valencia
42.19966825	Spanish
42.30915504	Greek_Central
42.42434325	Spanish_Murcia
42.96755171	Greek_Athens
43.14727338	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
43.23255255	IT_Umbria
43.66821270	IT_Marche
43.81425795	IT_Lazio
43.98554649	Spanish_Andalucia
44.64613757	France_Corsica
45.00680837	Greek_Andros_Island
45.49362922	Spanish_Aragon
45.90739919	Greek_Ionia
45.91619213	Greek_Cyclades
46.53429918	IT_Abruzzo
46.99642327	IT_Basilicata
47.06053761	IT_Molise
47.50478713	IT_Apulia
47.66772073	Gypsy_Wallachia
48.23686764	France_south-west
48.37137066	Sicily
48.58587449	Ashkenazi
48.65510251	Nogay
49.23971771	IT_Campania
49.78238845	Turk_North_West
49.88653626	Greek_Crete
50.17234597	Moldova_Jewish
50.29718481	Malta
50.54438248	Afghan_Turkmen
50.56985169	Greek_North_Aegean
50.67454588	Balkan_Gypsy
50.71775922	Yagnobi
51.17992478	Tajik_Ayni
51.65007067	Pamiri_Tajikistan
51.80477198	Turkmen_Uzbekistan
51.97060708	Tajik_Hisor
52.30068451	IT_Calabria
52.80699101	Uzbeki
53.22581704	French_Basque
53.40130804	Greek_Chios
53.53474759	Greek_Dodecanese
53.59636835	Tadjik
53.88557228	Turk_Central_West
54.21664228	Turk_Anatolia
54.26421657	Tajik_Kulob
54.34017114	Tabassaran
54.71626084	Karakalpak
54.89294946	Uygur
54.89419733	Turk_South
55.05667171	Kumyk
55.13845119	Chechen
55.82958535	Lezgin
55.91539770	Kabardin
56.17164498	Avar
56.20753152	Lak
56.23784758	Afghan_Hazara
56.37966034	Greek_Symi_Island
56.39017202	Dargin
56.49910796	Moroccan_Jew
56.66178606	Turk_Central_East
56.67817834	Algerian_Jewish
56.92021961	Italian_Jewish
56.93714429	Algerian
56.94153756	Turkmen
57.02867524	Afghan_Tadjik
57.04492002	Sephardic_Jewish
57.45563245	Shors
57.82909129	Turk_Central_Black_Sea
58.05179756	Balkar
58.06365903	Turkish_mixed
58.19518880	Kazakh
58.27495002	Turk_Turkey_average
58.44875362	Hazara
58.93654808	Mozabite_Berber
59.02945875	Adygei
59.07077027	Tunisian
59.11836094	Turk_Cypriot
59.22149441	Ingush
59.43019687	Moroccan
59.76218286	Afghan_Pashtun
59.95932955	Azerbaijani_Turkey
59.96488639	North_Ossetian
60.35535353	Tunisian_Jewish
60.38565310	Libyan_Jewish
60.41488476	Azeri
60.76372520	Turk_South_East
60.92530263	Greek_Cappadocian
60.95399085	Sardinia
61.19453652	Turk_East
61.19954166	Hakas
61.55256290	Azerbaijani_Iran
62.21351300	Ossetian
62.74607318	Greek_Cypriot
62.85947979	Kirgiz
63.27576945	Zaza
63.37553787	Nusayri
63.38157224	Iraqi_Baghdad
63.57417872	Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
63.87673442	Turkmen_Iraq
64.00768938	Syrian
64.04246716	Lebanese_Muslim
64.06920321	Iran_Centraleast
64.22224303	Talysh
64.27799701	Kurd_Sorani
64.49811935	Iran_Bandari
65.00754649	Iranian
65.30216459	Kurdish
65.53435969	Bedouin
65.65570577	Jordanian
65.75965100	Lor_Iran
65.96236351	Egyptian
66.26704913	Kurd_Iran
66.29368069	Kalash
66.35233756	Parsi_India
66.56546627	Punjabi_Jat

Code:

Distance: 0.2549% / 0.25485947
Target: Lemgrant(Ukrainian)

26.6	Ternopilska
23.7	Latvian
15.4	Zaporizka
11.1	Estonian
9.4	Ukrainian
9.0	Lithuanian
2.8	Sardinia
0.9	Karitiana
0.7	Ukrainian_Belgorod
0.3	Pima
0.1	Erzya_Mordovian

**Lemgrant** · 12-27-2020, 07:21 AM

https://vahaduo.github.io/custompca/

**Chris596** · 12-27-2020, 07:39 AM

Are some of these samples heavily Balkanic? I expected a larger distance for myself, and the fit is actually very good too:

Code:

Distance to:	Chris
6.49501347	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Tyachiv_district_Krychovo_EG60004
6.51390052	Ukraine_Ternopilska:Berezhany_district_Narajiv_EG600011
6.58265144	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Perechyn_district_Turji_Remety_EG60008_
7.05198554	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Mukachiv_district_Zavydovo_EG60007
7.62089234	Ukraine_Lvivska:molgen_
7.81684719	Ukraine_Chernivetska:R1a1c_
7.96429532	o_Ukraine_Luhansk:Lugansk_EG600093
7.96919067	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Tyachiv_district_Ternovo_EG600010
9.12785298	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Rahiv_district_Kosivska_Polyana_EG60001_
9.16676606	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Vynogradiv_district_Koroleve_EG600027
9.52667833	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Irshava_district_Dobrobratovo_EG60002
9.79969897	Ukraine_Ivano-Frankivska:apricity_
10.09674700	Ukraine_Lvivska:Turka_district_Kryvka_EG600018
10.31304514	Ukraine_Ivano-Frankivska:apricity_
10.41379374	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Vynogradiv_EG600035
10.75980948	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_EG600096
10.91153976	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Mizhgirya_district_Kolochava_EG600032
11.08447112	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Vynogradiv_district_Oleshnyk_EG60009
11.26796344	Ukraine_Lvivska:Turka_EG600089
11.30912906	Ukraine_Ivano-Frankivska:apricity_
11.57674825	o_Ukraine_Zaporizka:r1a2b
11.64905576	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_district_Hudlevo_EG600076
11.65260486	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_district_Lyahivtsi_EG60005
12.20991810	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Uzhgorod_EG600036
12.30206893	Ukraine_Zakarpatska:Svalyava_EG60003

Distance: 1.5351% / 1.53509060
Target: Chris
43.2 Ukraine_Ternopilska
24.2 Ukraine_Zakarpatska
18.8 o_Ukraine_Zhytomyrska
5.6 o_Ukraine_Zaporizka
4.3 Ukraine_Lvivska
3.1 Rivne_apricity
0.8 o_Ukraine_Luhansk