Ukrainian academic regional k13 results - more than 100

[vbnetkhio]

Isn't Ivano-Frankovsk oblast part of historical Galicia? I think it is.

yes, but these are genetical clusters. Ivano-Frankivsk looks genetically identical to Zakarpatye and different from Lviv.

[Abriekman]

I think, if Ukrainian has Polish ancestry - he must know that, because assimilation of Poles became perceptible only in 20 century. There are no village or town, all inhabitants of which suddenly became Ukrainians and forgot that they had been Poles.

68,75% of my ancestors were Poles in Ukraine, only one great grandparent was Catholic, other are Orthodoxized, spreak Russian and even did not have Polish Identity, even everyone was with Polish names and surnames and live in Polish village

[Leto]

68,75% of my ancestors were Poles in Ukraine, only one great grandparent was Catholic, other are Orthodoxized, spreak Russian and even did not have Polish Identity, even everyone was with Polish names and surnames and live in Polish village

I officially accept you as Russian In my book Polish blood is not foreign, just like Baltic and Finnic (let alone Ukrainian and Belarusian).

By the way, Orthodox Christianity exists in Poland proper, the autocephalous Polish Orthodox Church has between 500,000 and 1 million adherents (both active and nominal).

[Leto]

yes, but these are genetical clusters. Ivano-Frankivsk looks genetically identical to Zakarpatye and different from Lviv.

Ironically your brand new national average has a more Russian-like North Atlantic/Baltic ratio than the previous Ukrainian reference. I bet fucking Putin has a hand in it!

[vbnetkhio]

Ironically your brand new national average has a more Russian-like North Atlantic/Baltic ratio than the previous Ukrainian reference. I bet fucking Putin has a hand in it!

the previous was mostly from the Northwest according to Davidski. Probably some SW or Polish admixed samples too. This one is more accurate.

[Leto]

the previous was mostly from the Northwest according to Davidski. Probably some SW or Polish admixed samples too. This one is more accurate.

Isn't based on those few publicly available samples like Volyn, Zhitomir, etc?

[Leto]

the previous was mostly from the Northwest according to Davidski. Probably some SW or Polish admixed samples too. This one is more accurate.

Isn't based on those few publicly available samples like Volyn, Zhitomir, etc?

[vbnetkhio]

Isn't based on those few publicly available samples like Volyn, Zhitomir, etc?

i don't think so. that paper came out in 2016, and k13 is older than that i believe.

[Jana]

New Ukrainian average comes closest to SW Russians, and I think it's excellent modern proxy for early Slavic input.
It clusters somewhere between Lithuanians and North Moldovans, so between Balts and northern Balkanites, I think that's what early Slavs were like.

Belarausians, Russians Smolensk and Masurians IMO are Baltic admixed, while Polish average has slight east Germanic input (still very Slavic nevertheless)

South Slavs strongly prefer Ukrainians as their Slavic proxy in my modeling, and Vbn did excellent thing to opt out for average of main Ukrainian genetic cluster instead of all-country average which wouldn't be so pure.

[smd555]

68,75% of my ancestors were Poles in Ukraine, only one great grandparent was Catholic, other are Orthodoxized, spreak Russian and even did not have Polish Identity, even everyone was with Polish names and surnames and live in Polish village

But you know, that your ancestors were Poles, and you can say the percentage of Polish blood - so you prove my statement

I think, if Ukrainian has Polish ancestry - he must know that, because assimilation of Poles became perceptible only in 20 century.