Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

**Kyp** · 01-09-2021, 10:46 AM

Average Armenians from Iran n=7 (Tabriz, Saveh and Isfahan)

thanks @Harut

Gedrosian: 18.52
Siberian: 0.12
Northwest_African: 0.38
Southeast_Asian: 0.06
Atlantic_Med: 10.34
North_European: 5.82
South_Asian: 1.05
East_African: 0.02
Southwest_Asian: 13.44
East_Asian: 0.18
Caucasus: 50.06
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Armenian_Iran
1.70111728 Armenian_East
4.38869001 Armenian_West
5.28240476 Turk_East
5.80969018 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.13559288 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.20474818 Turk_Ahiska
6.69495332 Greek_Pontus
7.25032413 Assyrian_North
7.34986394 Hemshin
7.37756057 Azeri_Jew
7.51901589 Assyrian_West
7.81593884 Assyrian_South
8.34858072 Laz
9.80717594 Georgian
10.05178591 Zaza
10.44850229 Georgian_Adjara
10.80492018 Iranian_Jew
10.90518684 Georgian_Turkey
10.96802626 Kurdish_Jew
11.25721546 Greek_Cappadocia
11.41387314 Mandean
11.57908891 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.84491452 Iraqi_Jew
11.87194592 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.11809391 Kurd_Kurmanji

Target: Armenian_Iran
Distance: 0.7525% / 0.75253059 | ADC: 0.5x RC
81.2 Armenian_East
9.8 Kurd_KAZ
9.0 Georgian_Adjara

Target: Armenian_Iran
Distance: 1.7011% / 1.70111728 | ADC: 1x RC
100.0 Armenian_East

**Leto** · 01-09-2021, 11:01 AM

Makes sense, they are Eastern Armenian speakers.

**Roman-Anatolian** · 01-09-2021, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Fedora

Pontic Greeks can score as low as 1% NE.

Some of my closer distant relatives I've found on Gedmatch

Pontic Greek1

Population
Gedrosia 12.11Pct
Siberian-
Northwest_African 1.07Pct
Southeast_Asian-
Atlantic_Med 15.36Pct
North_European 6.84Pct
South_Asian-
East_African-
Southwest_Asian 12.63Pct
East_Asian-
Caucasus 51.99Pct
Sub_Saharan-

Distanceto

ontic Greek1
5.74864332 Greek_Pontus
5.81647660 Greek_Cappadocia
6.42105910 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.24123608 Armenian_East
8.13049199 Armenian_West
9.46791424 Hemshin
10.09984653 Laz
10.20366111 Turk_East
11.13763889 Turk_Ahiska
11.36725561 Assyrian_West
12.05055600 Assyrian_North
12.16008224 Assyrian_South
12.31993912 Nusayri_Turkey
12.45267040 Greek_Cypriot
12.63078778 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.65098020 Azeri_Jew
13.28501035 Turk_Cyprus
13.53126380 Georgian_Adjara
13.65810382 Georgian
14.19001057 Turk_Central_East
14.31887565 Georgian_Turkey
14.34159336 Lebanese_Christian
14.69000000 Greek_Rhodes
14.90300305 Kurdish_Jew
15.33222750 Greek_Kos

Target: Pontic Greek1
Distance: 0.9540% / 0.95399738 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.6 Greek_Pontus
27.7 Greek_Icaria
8.7 Georgian_Gurian

Target: Pontic Greek1
Distance: 2.1929% / 2.19286423 | ADC: 0.5x RC
51.4 Greek_Cappadocia
34.0 Turk_East_Black_Sea
14.6 Greek_Pontus

Pontic Greek2

Population
Gedrosia 16.56Pct
Siberian-
Northwest_African 0.69Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.25Pct
Atlantic_Med 18.68Pct
North_European 1.83Pct
South_Asian-
East_African-
Southwest_Asian13.1Pct
East_Asian-
Caucasus 47.89Pct
Sub_Saharan-

Distanceto: Pontic Greek2
6.84258723 Greek_Cappadocia
7.53796392 Armenian_West
9.39740922 Armenian_East
9.54408194 Assyrian_West
9.88007591 Nusayri_Turkey
9.96209315 Greek_Pontus
10.17454176 Assyrian_North
10.18214123 Assyrian_South
10.56300620 Turk_East
10.75266944 Azeri_Jew
10.94975799 Greek_Cypriot
11.05056560 Turk_East_Black_Sea
12.57311815 Kurdish_Jew
12.63060964 Lebanese_Christian
12.66985398 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.70537288 Iraqi_Jew
12.86837208 Iranian_Jew
12.88944142 Turk_Cyprus
13.32281502 Hemshin
13.44906688 Mandean
13.87577746 Turk_Central_East
14.08894957 Laz
14.25704387 Greek_Rhodes
14.49975862 Turk_Ahiska
14.85363592 Lebanese_Muslim

Target: Pontic Greek2
Distance: 3.1645% / 3.16451833 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.7 Armenian_West
23.5 Georgian_Adjara
14.8 Sardinian

Target: Pontic Greek2
Distance: 3.9951% / 3.99514937 | ADC: 0.5x RC
88.5 Armenian_West
11.5 Sardinian

Pontic Greek3

Population
Gedrosia 13.45Pct
Siberian-
Northwest_African 0.08Pct
Southeast_Asian-
Atlantic_Med 15.81Pct
North_European 9.27Pct
South_Asian-
East_African-
Southwest_Asian 11.25Pct
East_Asian 0.37Pct
Caucasus 49.77Pct
Sub_Saharan-

Distanceto: Pontic Greek3
5.91746567 Greek_Cappadocia
7.31462234 Armenian_East
8.06803570 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.30868822 Greek_Pontus
8.61440073 Turk_East
9.27535983 Armenian_West
10.75340876 Turk_Ahiska
10.91359702 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.11412615 Hemshin
11.57479589 Laz
11.83189757 Turk_Central_East
12.38883772 Assyrian_West
12.51115902 Turk_Cyprus
12.92238755 Assyrian_North
12.96984580 Nusayri_Turkey
13.10950800 Assyrian_South
13.12443523 Greek_Cypriot
13.22812156 Georgian
13.38963405 Azeri_Jew
13.41841645 Greek_Rhodes
13.59547351 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.83767321 Greek_Kos
13.95262341 Turk_Central_West
14.39479767 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.60433155 Turk_Southeast

Target: Pontic Greek3
Distance: 0.8025% / 0.80254261 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.1 Greek_Cappadocia
29.9 Georgian_Gurian
9.0 Albanian

Target: Pontic Greek3
Distance: 1.7361% / 1.73614850 | ADC: 0.5x RC
73.4 Greek_Cappadocia
18.4 Abkhazian
8.2 Ossetian

**Fedora** · 01-09-2021, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Roman-Anatolian

Some of my closer distant relatives I've found on Gedmatch

Pontic Greek1

Population
Gedrosia 12.11Pct
Siberian-
Northwest_African 1.07Pct
Southeast_Asian-
Atlantic_Med 15.36Pct
North_European 6.84Pct
South_Asian-
East_African-
Southwest_Asian 12.63Pct
East_Asian-
Caucasus 51.99Pct
Sub_Saharan-

Distanceto

ontic Greek1
5.74864332 Greek_Pontus
5.81647660 Greek_Cappadocia
6.42105910 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.24123608 Armenian_East
8.13049199 Armenian_West
9.46791424 Hemshin
10.09984653 Laz
10.20366111 Turk_East
11.13763889 Turk_Ahiska
11.36725561 Assyrian_West
12.05055600 Assyrian_North
12.16008224 Assyrian_South
12.31993912 Nusayri_Turkey
12.45267040 Greek_Cypriot
12.63078778 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.65098020 Azeri_Jew
13.28501035 Turk_Cyprus
13.53126380 Georgian_Adjara
13.65810382 Georgian
14.19001057 Turk_Central_East
14.31887565 Georgian_Turkey
14.34159336 Lebanese_Christian
14.69000000 Greek_Rhodes
14.90300305 Kurdish_Jew
15.33222750 Greek_Kos

Target: Pontic Greek1
Distance: 0.9540% / 0.95399738 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.6 Greek_Pontus
27.7 Greek_Icaria
8.7 Georgian_Gurian

Target: Pontic Greek1
Distance: 2.1929% / 2.19286423 | ADC: 0.5x RC
51.4 Greek_Cappadocia
34.0 Turk_East_Black_Sea
14.6 Greek_Pontus

Pontic Greek2

Population
Gedrosia 16.56Pct
Siberian-
Northwest_African 0.69Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.25Pct
Atlantic_Med 18.68Pct
North_European 1.83Pct
South_Asian-
East_African-
Southwest_Asian13.1Pct
East_Asian-
Caucasus 47.89Pct
Sub_Saharan-

Distanceto: Pontic Greek2
6.84258723 Greek_Cappadocia
7.53796392 Armenian_West
9.39740922 Armenian_East
9.54408194 Assyrian_West
9.88007591 Nusayri_Turkey
9.96209315 Greek_Pontus
10.17454176 Assyrian_North
10.18214123 Assyrian_South
10.56300620 Turk_East
10.75266944 Azeri_Jew
10.94975799 Greek_Cypriot
11.05056560 Turk_East_Black_Sea
12.57311815 Kurdish_Jew
12.63060964 Lebanese_Christian
12.66985398 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.70537288 Iraqi_Jew
12.86837208 Iranian_Jew
12.88944142 Turk_Cyprus
13.32281502 Hemshin
13.44906688 Mandean
13.87577746 Turk_Central_East
14.08894957 Laz
14.25704387 Greek_Rhodes
14.49975862 Turk_Ahiska
14.85363592 Lebanese_Muslim

Target: Pontic Greek2
Distance: 3.1645% / 3.16451833 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.7 Armenian_West
23.5 Georgian_Adjara
14.8 Sardinian

Target: Pontic Greek2
Distance: 3.9951% / 3.99514937 | ADC: 0.5x RC
88.5 Armenian_West
11.5 Sardinian

Pontic Greek3

Population
Gedrosia 13.45Pct
Siberian-
Northwest_African 0.08Pct
Southeast_Asian-
Atlantic_Med 15.81Pct
North_European 9.27Pct
South_Asian-
East_African-
Southwest_Asian 11.25Pct
East_Asian 0.37Pct
Caucasus 49.77Pct
Sub_Saharan-

Distanceto: Pontic Greek3
5.91746567 Greek_Cappadocia
7.31462234 Armenian_East
8.06803570 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.30868822 Greek_Pontus
8.61440073 Turk_East
9.27535983 Armenian_West
10.75340876 Turk_Ahiska
10.91359702 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.11412615 Hemshin
11.57479589 Laz
11.83189757 Turk_Central_East
12.38883772 Assyrian_West
12.51115902 Turk_Cyprus
12.92238755 Assyrian_North
12.96984580 Nusayri_Turkey
13.10950800 Assyrian_South
13.12443523 Greek_Cypriot
13.22812156 Georgian
13.38963405 Azeri_Jew
13.41841645 Greek_Rhodes
13.59547351 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.83767321 Greek_Kos
13.95262341 Turk_Central_West
14.39479767 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.60433155 Turk_Southeast

Target: Pontic Greek3
Distance: 0.8025% / 0.80254261 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.1 Greek_Cappadocia
29.9 Georgian_Gurian
9.0 Albanian

Target: Pontic Greek3
Distance: 1.7361% / 1.73614850 | ADC: 0.5x RC
73.4 Greek_Cappadocia
18.4 Abkhazian
8.2 Ossetian

From which region? They seem more Anatolian shifted, higher Atlantic Med than Turks, ARmenians or others in that region from what I've seen.

**Saba** · 01-10-2021, 12:09 AM

My new results using my 23andme raw DNA. This makes a lot more sense. My Qashqai heritage seems to be way more obvious now.

Gedrosia 26.94 Pct
Siberian 0.64 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 3.82 Pct
North_European 7.56 Pct
South_Asian 5.64 Pct
East_African 0.18 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.24 Pct
East_Asian 2.01 Pct
Caucasus 38.73 Pct
Sub_Saharan 2.25 Pct

Target:
Distance: 2.9201% / 2.92007076 | ADC: 0.5x RC
46.1 Iranian
30.9 Iranian_Fars
11.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.1 Talysh_Azerbaijan
1.9 Yoruba

Target:
Distance: 3.7704% / 3.77035587 | ADC: 1x RC
42.1 Iranian_Fars
33.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
24.7 Iranian

MY ANCESTRY DNA RESULTS

Gedrosia 28.77 Pct
Siberian 0.33 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.05 Pct
Atlantic_Med 4.88 Pct
North_European 6.02 Pct
South_Asian 5.07 Pct
East_African 0.07 Pct
Southwest_Asian 13.42 Pct
East_Asian 0.67 Pct
Caucasus 37.48 Pct
Sub_Saharan 2.24 Pct

Target: c
Distance: 1.7373% / 1.73733831 | ADC: 0.5x RC
49.7 Iranian
23.5 Lur_Iran
14.6 Iranian_Fars
10.9 Iran_Bandari
1.3 Yoruba

Target: c
Distance: 2.7658% / 2.76583091 | ADC: 1x RC
51.5 Iranian_Fars
48.5 Iranian

**Roman-Anatolian** · 01-10-2021, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Fedora

From which region? They seem more Anatolian shifted, higher Atlantic Med than Turks, ARmenians or others in that region from what I've seen.

I can't tell for sure which regions they are from or even if they have some recent anatolian greek ancestry. I assume they are full Pontians due to their high % Caucasian, correct me if i am wrong. So far i have seen Pontic Greek not that much different from the average Greek_Pontus and others being more anatolian shifted. All of them are between 10%-15% Atlanto Med. Here is another example

Population
Gedrosia 13.22 Pct
Siberian 0.17 Pct
Northwest_African 0.33 Pct
Southeast_Asian-
Atlantic_Med 15.44 Pct
North_European 4.25 Pct
South_Asian-
East_African-
Southwest_Asian 13.07 Pct
East_Asian-
Caucasus 53.52 Pct
Sub_Saharan-

Distanceto

ontic Greek4
3.80193372 Greek_Pontus
5.52859838 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.22262418 Armenian_West
7.29174876 Greek_Cappadocia
7.39435596 Armenian_East
8.09628310 Hemshin
8.79368523 Laz
10.72182354 Assyrian_West
11.17282865 Turk_East
11.20469544 Turk_Ahiska
11.34113310 Assyrian_North
11.50753666 Assyrian_South
12.03001663 Azeri_Jew
12.09430031 Georgian_Adjara
12.86970474 Nusayri_Turkey
13.16019757 Georgian_Turkey
13.32818067 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.42832827 Greek_Cypriot
13.82857187 Georgian
14.36424380 Kurdish_Jew
14.56576466 Lebanese_Christian
14.78948613 Iraqi_Jew
15.09886751Iranian_Jew
15.16895843 Georgian_Imereti
15.23632173 Turk_Cyprus

Target: Pontic Greek4
Distance: 1.2486% / 1.24860687 | ADC: 0.25x RC
90.2 Greek_Pontus
5.5 Sardinian
4.3 Greek_Cappadocia

Target: Pontic Greek4
Distance: 1.6278% / 1.62776951 | ADC: 0.5x RC
67.4 Greek_Pontus
32.6 Greek_Cappadocia

**Roman-Anatolian** · 01-10-2021, 04:18 PM

Another individual who scores Greek_Pontus Greek_Cappadocia

Population
Gedrosia 13.09 Pct
Siberian-
Northwest_African-
Southeast_Asian-
Atlantic_Med 16.33 Pct
North_European 4.32 Pct
South_Asian-
East_African-
Southwest_Asian 13.32 Pct
East_Asian-
Caucasus 52.94 Pct
Sub_Saharan-

Distanceto: Pontic Greek5
5.09467369 Greek_Pontus
6.26924238 Greek_Cappadocia
6.75715917 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.55226456 Armenian_West
7.98550562 Armenian_East
9.35759585 Hemshin
10.02403611 Laz
10.86333742 Assyrian_West
11.45742990 Turk_East
11.55719257 Assyrian_North
11.68735214 Assyrian_South
12.17833322 Turk_Ahiska
12.28813656 Azeri_Jew
12.34552146 Nusayri_Turkey
12.49977600 Greek_Cypriot
13.27554519 Georgian_Adjara
13.69970803 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.13909827 Lebanese_Christian
14.35710974 Georgian_Turkey
14.46685522 Kurdish_Jew
14.48201298 Turk_Cyprus
14.82285060 Iraqi_Jew
14.86949226 Georgian
15.21027942 Iranian_Jew
15.80185432 Turk_Central_East

Target: Pontic Greek5
Distance: 1.6017% / 1.60174154 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.8 Greek_Pontus
7.2 Sardinian
7.0 Greek_Cappadocia

Target: Pontic Greek5
Distance: 2.1064% / 2.10643426 | ADC: 0.5x RC
56.0 Greek_Pontus
44.0 Greek_Cappadocia

**Mejgusu** · 01-10-2021, 04:24 PM

Never saw Pontic Greeks with more than 6% NE, not even Cappadocian Greeks have 9% NE.

**Javid** · 01-10-2021, 06:17 PM

Interesting Azerbaijani result - Ancestors from Sarab (Iranian Azerbaijan), Shamakhy and Absheron

Gedrosia 23.02
Siberian 3.5
Northwest_African-
Southeast_Asian-
Atlantic_Med 8.31
North_European 11.6
South_Asian 2.77
East_African 0.9
Southwest_Asian 10.95
East_Asian 2.65
Caucasus 35.84
Sub_Saharan 0.47

**Kyp** · 01-11-2021, 03:52 PM

Iranian Kurd

Gedrosian: 25.72
Siberian: 0.79
Northwest_African: 2.19
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 9.96
North_European: 6.83
South_Asian: 2.10
East_African: 1.26
Southwest_Asian: 12.24
East_Asian: 1.89
Caucasian: 36.99
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Iranian Kurd

Gedrosian: 26.38
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.48
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 9.09
North_European: 6.61
South_Asian: 1.46
East_African: 1.54
Southwest_Asian: 12.16
East_Asian: 1.91
Caucasian: 40.38
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

50%Iranian Kurd +50% Persian/Azeri Seyyed

Gedrosian: 24.03
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.18
Atlantic_Med: 12.82
North_European: 8.17
South_Asian: 0.78
East_African: 1.11
Southwest_Asian: 13.20
East_Asian: 2.97
Caucasian: 36.40
Sub_Saharan: 0.53