South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results - vol.2

[Vojnik]

Very few would have assumed Macedonians were this close to Albanians before we obtained all these results and averages.

I find that we are close to Kosovo Albanians but not so much the Albanians from Albania.

[Roy]

Who are closer to Poles genetically speaking: Macedonians or Bulgarians?

[Dušan]

Who are closer to Poles genetically speaking: Macedonians or Bulgarians?

Bulgarians

[JohnnyP]

Macedonians


And I found this K15 with Albanians

[Vojnik]

Who are closer to Poles genetically speaking: Macedonians or Bulgarians?

Bulgarians being a Danubian people, would bring them closer to Poles. Macedonians are more of a Mountain Med goat herding people.

[CommonSense]

Bosniak:

Spoiler!

Kit YR4702010

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.79
2 North_Atlantic 24.51
3 West_Med 18.21
4 East_Med 13.23
5 West_Asian 11.2
6 Oceanian 1.07
7 Amerindian 0.94
8 Siberian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.24
2 Serbian 5.83
3 Romanian 7.44
4 Croatian 7.79
5 Bulgarian 9
6 Hungarian 9.65
7 Austrian 12.95
8 East_German 13.91
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.09
10 South_Polish 15
11 Ukrainian 15.25
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.73
13 Polish 18.42
14 Southwest_Russian 18.71
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.82
16 West_German 18.91
17 North_Italian 20.4
18 South_Dutch 20.41
19 Russian_Smolensk 20.5
20 French 20.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.2% Croatian + 45.8% Bulgarian @ 3.17
2 67% Moldavian + 33% Bulgarian @ 3.22
3 62.3% Moldavian + 37.7% Romanian @ 3.36
4 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Sardinian @ 3.41
5 84.7% Moldavian + 15.3% Tuscan @ 3.45
6 77.7% Croatian + 22.3% Central_Greek @ 3.47
7 64.2% Bulgarian + 35.8% Ukrainian @ 3.49
8 81.6% Moldavian + 18.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.49
9 86.2% Moldavian + 13.8% Central_Greek @ 3.52
10 88.1% Moldavian + 11.9% South_Italian @ 3.52
11 62.2% Bulgarian + 37.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.53
12 86% Moldavian + 14% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.54
13 83.9% Moldavian + 16.1% North_Italian @ 3.56
14 86.8% Moldavian + 13.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.56
15 80.6% Croatian + 19.4% South_Italian @ 3.59
16 51.5% Romanian + 48.5% Croatian @ 3.59
17 71.5% Croatian + 28.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.61
18 68.7% Bulgarian + 31.3% Polish @ 3.64
19 87.4% Moldavian + 12.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.71
20 63.9% Bulgarian + 36.1% South_Polish @ 3.71

[CommonSense]

This guy appears to be half-Gypsy or something approximate. Intresting part is that he has a Romanian surname, but spelled in a Serbian manner (Kračun, exists in southern Banat).

Spoiler!

Kit WN6671990

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.51
2 East_Med 16.64
3 West_Med 16.11
4 South_Asian 15.22
5 West_Asian 14.11
6 North_Atlantic 13.52
7 East_Asian 1.09
8 Northeast_African 1.02
9 Amerindian 0.77
10 Oceanian 0.54
11 Siberian 0.47

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 16.14
2 Greek_Thessaly 16.74
3 Romanian 16.87
4 Serbian 19.36
5 Moldavian 20.58
6 Central_Greek 20.74
7 East_Sicilian 21.53
8 Italian_Abruzzo 21.66
9 West_Sicilian 22.7
10 Ashkenazi 22.98
11 Tuscan 23.18
12 Croatian 23.71
13 South_Italian 23.91
14 North_Italian 24.6
15 Hungarian 24.66
16 Turkish 26.57
17 Austrian 27.36
18 Tatar 27.56
19 Tadjik 27.57
20 Turkmen 27.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.9% Bulgarian + 23.1% Dharkar @ 4.2
2 78.5% Bulgarian + 21.5% Velamas @ 4.29
3 77.3% Bulgarian + 22.7% Kanjar @ 4.33
4 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% North_Kannadi @ 4.34
5 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Dusadh @ 4.34
6 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Kurumba @ 4.44
7 79.6% Bulgarian + 20.4% Piramalai @ 4.46
8 78.3% Bulgarian + 21.7% Kol @ 4.46
9 77.9% Bulgarian + 22.1% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.64
10 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Chenchu @ 4.66
11 80% Bulgarian + 20% Sakilli @ 4.68
12 79.9% Bulgarian + 20.1% Chamar @ 4.69
13 75.1% Bulgarian + 24.9% Kshatriya @ 4.74
14 75.2% Bulgarian + 24.8% Bangladeshi @ 4.78
15 75.3% Bulgarian + 24.7% Gujarati @ 4.99
16 73.9% Bulgarian + 26.1% Brahmin_UP @ 5.32
17 78.2% Romanian + 21.8% Velamas @ 6.17
18 76.7% Romanian + 23.3% Dharkar @ 6.26
19 78.6% Romanian + 21.4% Dusadh @ 6.32
20 78.5% Romanian + 21.5% Kurumba @ 6.42

But the funny part is yet to come. I googled his name and found the instagram account where he posted the regions he got on 23andMe in great detail. Of course, he only said he had two grandparents who are Serbs from Bosnia and Croatia. No mention of having a Gypsy parent whatsoever

[Ion Basescul]

This guy appears to be half-Gypsy or something approximate. Intresting part is that he has a Romanian surname, but spelled in a Serbian manner (Kračun, exists in southern Banat).

Spoiler!

Kit WN6671990

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.51
2 East_Med 16.64
3 West_Med 16.11
4 South_Asian 15.22
5 West_Asian 14.11
6 North_Atlantic 13.52
7 East_Asian 1.09
8 Northeast_African 1.02
9 Amerindian 0.77
10 Oceanian 0.54
11 Siberian 0.47

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 16.14
2 Greek_Thessaly 16.74
3 Romanian 16.87
4 Serbian 19.36
5 Moldavian 20.58
6 Central_Greek 20.74
7 East_Sicilian 21.53
8 Italian_Abruzzo 21.66
9 West_Sicilian 22.7
10 Ashkenazi 22.98
11 Tuscan 23.18
12 Croatian 23.71
13 South_Italian 23.91
14 North_Italian 24.6
15 Hungarian 24.66
16 Turkish 26.57
17 Austrian 27.36
18 Tatar 27.56
19 Tadjik 27.57
20 Turkmen 27.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.9% Bulgarian + 23.1% Dharkar @ 4.2
2 78.5% Bulgarian + 21.5% Velamas @ 4.29
3 77.3% Bulgarian + 22.7% Kanjar @ 4.33
4 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% North_Kannadi @ 4.34
5 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Dusadh @ 4.34
6 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Kurumba @ 4.44
7 79.6% Bulgarian + 20.4% Piramalai @ 4.46
8 78.3% Bulgarian + 21.7% Kol @ 4.46
9 77.9% Bulgarian + 22.1% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.64
10 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Chenchu @ 4.66
11 80% Bulgarian + 20% Sakilli @ 4.68
12 79.9% Bulgarian + 20.1% Chamar @ 4.69
13 75.1% Bulgarian + 24.9% Kshatriya @ 4.74
14 75.2% Bulgarian + 24.8% Bangladeshi @ 4.78
15 75.3% Bulgarian + 24.7% Gujarati @ 4.99
16 73.9% Bulgarian + 26.1% Brahmin_UP @ 5.32
17 78.2% Romanian + 21.8% Velamas @ 6.17
18 76.7% Romanian + 23.3% Dharkar @ 6.26
19 78.6% Romanian + 21.4% Dusadh @ 6.32
20 78.5% Romanian + 21.5% Kurumba @ 6.42

But the funny part is yet to come. I googled his name and found the instagram account where he posted the regions he got on 23andMe in great detail. Of course, he only said he had two grandparents who are Serbs from Bosnia and Croatia. No mention of having a Gypsy parent whatsoever

Very weak connection to Romania though, even with Greece it is stronger. And yeah, I don't understand people who don't accept themselves.

[Alenka]

This guy appears to be half-Gypsy or something approximate. Intresting part is that he has a Romanian surname, but spelled in a Serbian manner (Kračun, exists in southern Banat).

Are you sure that's a Romanian surname? What's the original Romanian spelling version of it?
That aside, he indeed seems to have have a chunk of Gypsy ancestry.

[CommonSense]

Very weak connection to Romania though, even with Greece it is stronger. And yeah, I don't understand people who don't accept themselves.

He was probably raised in the same manner Mortimer was, being told he was merely another Serb. The difference is that Mortimer always had his doubts and and wasn't ashamed to accept the truth. Btw, the connection with Romania is weak because his father is likely one of those romanised Bayash Gypsies, they don't have much actual Romanian ancestry.

Are you sure that's a Romanian surname? What's the original Romanian spelling version of it?
That aside, he indeed seems to have have a chunk of Gypsy ancestry.

Yes. It's obviosuly derived from Crăciun.