The most ultimate Hungarian K13 database thus far

**vbnetkhio** · 02-08-2021, 04:45 PM

_	North_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast_Afr	Sub_Saharan
Vojv hungarian	26.85	28.79	17.11	4.62	17.37	2.05	1.28	0.24	0.72	0.98	0.00	0.00	0.00
Vojv hungarian	27.95	34.31	12.94	7.24	14.67	0.39	0.00	1.00	0.56	0.00	0.24	0.69	0.00
Vojv hungarian	27.38	35.97	13.84	6.30	14.50	0.00	0.00	0.00	1.06	0.00	0.73	0.22	0.00
Vojv hungarian	35.03	35.28	7.87	6.42	10.50	2.18	0.51	0.00	1.88	0.31	0.00	0.00	0.00
Vojv hungarian	28.61	33.98	16.68	9.19	9.00	0.18	0.13	1.43	0.00	0.10	0.66	0.00	0.00
Vojv hungarian	24.47	31.54	18.62	5.62	11.85	1.03	0.00	3.44	2.02	1.26	0.00	0.14	0.00

the first 4 results is a family with Serbian names and Hungarian surnames, so probably Hungarians from Vojvodina.
the 5th one is 3/4 Vojvodina Hungarian and 1/4 from Hungary, and the last one is a Vojvodina Hungarian posted earlier by Kaspias.

**Jana** · 02-08-2021, 04:55 PM

Reposting results of my Hungarian friends because not everyone can see it in members only 23andme section.

Eurogenes K13

Code:

Blanka,32.88,34.8,13.86,3.19,11.43,2.1,0,0,0.41,0.92,0,0,0.41
Blanka_husband,33.89,33.38,15.5,6.6,8.79,0.12,0,0,0.96,0,0,0.19,0.5

Dodecad K12b

Code:

Blanka,2.06,0.73,0.08,0,28.59,49.05,0,0,4.42,0,15.03,0
Blanka_husband,4.69,1.44,0,0,32.08,45.39,0,0,1.31,0,14.73,0.36

**vbnetkhio** · 02-08-2021, 05:27 PM

from Fejér County

North_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast_African	Sub-Saharan
31.03	30.22	13.86	6.78	12.54	1.68	0	1.12	0.83	1.23	0.53	0	0.17
29.02	35.31	13.87	6.71	10.58	1.31	1.19	0.93	0.93	0.14	0	0	0
30.49	29.04	14.3	10.9	8.29	1.39	2.58	0	1.91	0.51	0.59	0	0

**~~Dunai~~** · 02-08-2021, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

_	North_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast_Afr	Sub_Saharan
Vojv hungarian	26.85	28.79	17.11	4.62	17.37	2.05	1.28	0.24	0.72	0.98	0.00	0.00	0.00
Vojv hungarian	27.95	34.31	12.94	7.24	14.67	0.39	0.00	1.00	0.56	0.00	0.24	0.69	0.00
Vojv hungarian	27.38	35.97	13.84	6.30	14.50	0.00	0.00	0.00	1.06	0.00	0.73	0.22	0.00
Vojv hungarian	35.03	35.28	7.87	6.42	10.50	2.18	0.51	0.00	1.88	0.31	0.00	0.00	0.00
Vojv hungarian	28.61	33.98	16.68	9.19	9.00	0.18	0.13	1.43	0.00	0.10	0.66	0.00	0.00
Vojv hungarian	24.47	31.54	18.62	5.62	11.85	1.03	0.00	3.44	2.02	1.26	0.00	0.14	0.00

the first 4 results is a family with Serbian names and Hungarian surnames, so probably Hungarians from Vojvodina.
the 5th one is 3/4 Vojvodina Hungarian and 1/4 from Hungary, and the last one is a Vojvodina Hungarian posted earlier by Kaspias.

Vojvodina Hungarians are part of Greater Alföld area, their results seem to fit pretty well with Croatian, Slovenian and Alföld Hungarian averages. Are their surnames written in Serbian or Hungarian calligraphy and pronunciation? Also do their given names have both Hungarian and Serbian versions, or more Serbian-like?

**vbnetkhio** · 02-08-2021, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Dunai

Vojvodina Hungarians are part of Greater Alföld area, their results seem to fit pretty well with Croatian, Slovenian and Alföld Hungarian averages. Are their surnames written in Serbian or Hungarian calligraphy and pronunciation? Also do their given names have both Hungarian and Serbian versions, or more Serbian-like?

the surnames are Hungarian with Hungarian calligraphy, names Serbian with Serbian calligraphy. i'll send them to you.

**Leto** · 02-12-2021, 06:34 PM

Hungarian Tzigane

North_Atlantic 8.26 Pct
Baltic 12.52 Pct
West_Med 13.55 Pct
West_Asian 12.44 Pct
East_Med 21.74 Pct
Red_Sea 2.2 Pct
South_Asian 25.41 Pct
East_Asian 0.34 Pct
Siberian 0.68 Pct
Amerindian 0.86 Pct
Oceanian 2 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Distance to: G
6.13486756 Gypsy_Wallachia
6.87451816 Balkan_Gypsy
26.79568809 Turk_Trakya
27.25638457 Parsi_India
27.58799739 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
27.65123686 Turk_Crete
28.26608922 Turk_Makedonya
28.27409415 Greek_Central
28.27847238 Turk_North_West
28.28649324 Greek_Peloponnese

Target: G
Distance: 2.4935% / 2.49352617
38.3 Greek_Northern-Thrace
32.0 Chamar
22.6 Lebanese_Christian
3.8 Latvian
2.6 Sardinia
0.6 Papuan
0.1 Karitiana

Gedrosia 10.3 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.05 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 15.06 Pct
North_European 17.58 Pct
South_Asian 22.06 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 6.78 Pct
East_Asian 1.11 Pct
Caucasus 24.06 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: G
6.31114887 Balkan_Gypsy
24.27952841 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
24.30338248 Turk_Trakya
24.89084169 Turk_Northwest
25.34468583 Turk_Deliorman
25.86494926 Turk_Southwest
25.91915315 Greek_Lemnos
26.03860787 Turk_Makedonya
26.11991769 Greek_Peloponnese
26.14192418 Turk_West_BlackSea

Target: G
Distance: 1.8904% / 1.89036498 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.0 Balkan_Gypsy
27.6 Pomak_Greece
10.6 Pulliyar
3.8 Algerian

Target: G
Distance: 3.1428% / 3.14284057 | ADC: 0.5x RC
68.6 Balkan_Gypsy
23.1 Romanian
8.3 Pulliyar

**Leto** · 02-23-2021, 04:32 PM

From Györ, Northwestern Hungary
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Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 34.84
2 Baltic 27.75
3 West_Med 15.32
4 East_Med 12.58
5 West_Asian 6.28
6 Amerindian 1.69
7 East_Asian 0.94
8 South_Asian 0.5
9 Oceanian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 5.39
2 Hungarian 5.54
3 East_German 7.28
4 Serbian 8.32
5 West_German 9.5
6 Croatian 10.59
7 South_Dutch 11.03
8 Moldavian 11.27
9 Romanian 11.85
10 French 12.54
11 North_German 13.8
12 Bulgarian 14.68
13 South_Polish 14.91
14 Southeast_English 15.76
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.92
16 Danish 16.05
17 North_Dutch 16.35
18 Swedish 16.61
19 Ukrainian 16.75
20 North_Swedish 17.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80% Hungarian + 20% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.37
2 78.3% Hungarian + 21.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.48
3 80.4% Hungarian + 19.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.58
4 82.9% Hungarian + 17.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.7
5 82% Hungarian + 18% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.76
6 79.9% Hungarian + 20.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.76
7 81.6% Hungarian + 18.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.78
8 79% Hungarian + 21% Portuguese @ 2.81
9 80.8% Hungarian + 19.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.91
10 81.4% Hungarian + 18.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.93
11 84.7% East_German + 15.3% Italian_Jewish @ 2.98
12 72.4% Hungarian + 27.6% French @ 3.03
13 81.5% Hungarian + 18.5% Southwest_French @ 3.09
14 79.8% Hungarian + 20.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.09
15 82.3% East_German + 17.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.12
16 80.1% Hungarian + 19.9% North_Italian @ 3.2
17 87.6% Austrian + 12.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.2
18 66.8% Serbian + 33.2% Southeast_English @ 3.23
19 80.5% East_German + 19.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.26
20 89.6% Austrian + 10.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 25
2 North_Sea 20.89
3 Baltic 17.52
4 West_Med 10.28
5 East_Med 8.83
6 Eastern_Euro 8.5
7 West_Asian 6.79
8 Amerindian 1.27
9 Southeast_Asian 0.65
10 South_Asian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 5.22
2 Hungarian 8.63
3 East_German 8.93
4 Serbian 9.18
5 Croatian 10.31
6 South_Dutch 11.05
7 Romanian 11.3
8 French 12.19
9 Moldavian 12.36
10 North_German 13.19
11 West_German 13.46
12 Bulgarian 13.52
13 Spanish_Cataluna 14.93
14 South_Polish 14.96
15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 15.74
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.78
17 Southwest_English 15.93
18 Spanish_Galicia 16.07
19 Southeast_English 16.07
20 Southwest_Finnish 16.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.4% Austrian + 18.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.89
2 80.6% Austrian + 19.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.9
3 83.1% Austrian + 16.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.93
4 82.8% Austrian + 17.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.94
5 84.3% Austrian + 15.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4
6 85.4% Austrian + 14.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.05
7 82.7% Austrian + 17.3% North_Italian @ 4.06
8 84.8% Austrian + 15.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.08
9 83.3% Austrian + 16.7% Portuguese @ 4.17
10 84.1% Austrian + 15.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.17
11 85.4% Austrian + 14.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.23
12 84.8% Austrian + 15.2% Southwest_French @ 4.24
13 89.9% Austrian + 10.1% French_Basque @ 4.32
14 86.6% Austrian + 13.4% Tuscan @ 4.33
15 84.2% Austrian + 15.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.33
16 80.1% Austrian + 19.9% French @ 4.38
17 90.2% Austrian + 9.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.61
18 90.7% Austrian + 9.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.62
19 92.1% Austrian + 7.9% South_Italian @ 4.64
20 94.4% Austrian + 5.6% Sardinian @ 4.64

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 42.32
2 Atlantic_Med 31.77
3 Caucasus 17
4 Gedrosia 4.89
5 Southwest_Asian 2.24
6 Southeast_Asian 0.98
7 South_Asian 0.67
8 Northwest_African 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 7.37
2 German (Dodecad) 8.81
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 12.77
4 Romanians (Behar) 14.04
5 Dutch (Dodecad) 14.05
6 French (Dodecad) 15.07
7 French (HGDP) 15.33
8 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.01
9 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 16.06
10 Kent (1000Genomes) 16.22
11 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 16.31
12 English (Dodecad) 16.51
13 British_Isles (Dodecad) 17.47
14 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 18.55
15 British (Dodecad) 18.81
16 Argyll (1000Genomes) 18.98
17 Orkney (1000Genomes) 19.34
18 Irish (Dodecad) 19.5
19 Orcadian (HGDP) 19.55
20 Swedish (Dodecad) 19.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 11.7% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 2.11
2 77.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.1% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 2.14
3 81% Hungarians (Behar) + 19% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 2.15
4 76.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 23.7% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 2.2
5 74.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 25.9% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.31
6 65% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 35% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.4
7 65.1% German (Dodecad) + 34.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.4
8 77% German (Dodecad) + 23% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.43
9 53.3% Dutch (Dodecad) + 46.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.46
10 50% Romanians (Behar) + 50% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.49
11 79.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.3% Spaniards (Behar) @ 2.53
12 81.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 18.9% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 2.61
13 52.8% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 47.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.61
14 55.6% Romanians (Behar) + 44.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.64
15 78.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.3% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 2.67
16 80.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 19.5% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 2.68
17 63% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 37% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.69
18 62.2% German (Dodecad) + 37.8% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.71
19 78% Hungarians (Behar) + 22% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 2.71
20 79.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.2% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 2.76

**Gergő Marosvári** · 04-27-2021, 06:00 PM

Here is the results of my grandmother.
If someone can add her to the "Hungarian database and PCA" I would be very thankful for that.

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.93
2 North_Atlantic 34.69
3 West_Med 11.64
4 East_Med 9.53
5 West_Asian 4.90
6 South_Asian 2.02
7 Red_Sea 1.21
8 Amerindian 0.81
9 Oceanian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.65
2 East_German 5.1
3 Austrian 6.23
4 Croatian 7.67
5 South_Polish 8.14
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.93
7 Ukrainian 10.56
8 Moldavian 10.6
9 Polish 11.34
10 Serbian 12.34
11 North_Swedish 12.37
12 Southwest_Finnish 12.98
13 North_German 13.71
14 West_German 13.73
15 Southwest_Russian 14.3
16 Russian_Smolensk 14.48
17 Swedish 14.54
18 South_Dutch 14.78
19 Belorussian 14.8
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% Belorussian + 44.5% French @ 2.62
2 72.4% Austrian + 27.6% Belorussian @ 2.85
3 72.6% Austrian + 27.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.95
4 55.4% Estonian_Polish + 44.6% French @ 2.95
5 56.4% Southwest_Russian + 43.6% French @ 3.03
6 70.5% South_Polish + 29.5% French @ 3.04
7 78.2% Hungarian + 21.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.05
8 52.1% West_German + 47.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.07
9 56.1% Russian_Smolensk + 43.9% French @ 3.15
10 51.1% West_German + 48.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.15
11 72.2% Austrian + 27.8% Southwest_Russian @ 3.16
12 64.1% South_Polish + 35.9% West_German @ 3.2
13 52% West_German + 48% Belorussian @ 3.24
14 58.4% Austrian + 41.6% South_Polish @ 3.24
15 72.6% Austrian + 27.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.25
16 83.6% Hungarian + 16.4% Estonian @ 3.28
17 78.2% Austrian + 21.8% Lithuanian @ 3.28
18 50.9% Southwest_Russian + 49.1% South_Dutch @ 3.32
19 63% Belorussian + 37% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.34
20 78.7% Hungarian + 21.3% North_Swedish @ 3.36

**Gergő Marosvári** · 04-27-2021, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Gergő Marosvári

Here is the results of my grandmother.
If someone can add her to the "Hungarian database and PCA" I would be very thankful for that.

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.93
2 North_Atlantic 34.69
3 West_Med 11.64
4 East_Med 9.53
5 West_Asian 4.90
6 South_Asian 2.02
7 Red_Sea 1.21
8 Amerindian 0.81
9 Oceanian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.65
2 East_German 5.1
3 Austrian 6.23
4 Croatian 7.67
5 South_Polish 8.14
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.93
7 Ukrainian 10.56
8 Moldavian 10.6
9 Polish 11.34
10 Serbian 12.34
11 North_Swedish 12.37
12 Southwest_Finnish 12.98
13 North_German 13.71
14 West_German 13.73
15 Southwest_Russian 14.3
16 Russian_Smolensk 14.48
17 Swedish 14.54
18 South_Dutch 14.78
19 Belorussian 14.8
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% Belorussian + 44.5% French @ 2.62
2 72.4% Austrian + 27.6% Belorussian @ 2.85
3 72.6% Austrian + 27.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.95
4 55.4% Estonian_Polish + 44.6% French @ 2.95
5 56.4% Southwest_Russian + 43.6% French @ 3.03
6 70.5% South_Polish + 29.5% French @ 3.04
7 78.2% Hungarian + 21.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.05
8 52.1% West_German + 47.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.07
9 56.1% Russian_Smolensk + 43.9% French @ 3.15
10 51.1% West_German + 48.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.15
11 72.2% Austrian + 27.8% Southwest_Russian @ 3.16
12 64.1% South_Polish + 35.9% West_German @ 3.2
13 52% West_German + 48% Belorussian @ 3.24
14 58.4% Austrian + 41.6% South_Polish @ 3.24
15 72.6% Austrian + 27.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.25
16 83.6% Hungarian + 16.4% Estonian @ 3.28
17 78.2% Austrian + 21.8% Lithuanian @ 3.28
18 50.9% Southwest_Russian + 49.1% South_Dutch @ 3.32
19 63% Belorussian + 37% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.34
20 78.7% Hungarian + 21.3% North_Swedish @ 3.36

I forgot to add, she is 100% from Tiszadob, Szabolcs-Szatmár Bereg county in the Northern part of the Great Hungarian Plain.

**Jana** · 04-28-2021, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Gergő Marosvári

Here is the results of my grandmother.
If someone can add her to the "Hungarian database and PCA" I would be very thankful for that.

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.93
2 North_Atlantic 34.69
3 West_Med 11.64
4 East_Med 9.53
5 West_Asian 4.90
6 South_Asian 2.02
7 Red_Sea 1.21
8 Amerindian 0.81
9 Oceanian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.65
2 East_German 5.1
3 Austrian 6.23
4 Croatian 7.67
5 South_Polish 8.14
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.93
7 Ukrainian 10.56
8 Moldavian 10.6
9 Polish 11.34
10 Serbian 12.34
11 North_Swedish 12.37
12 Southwest_Finnish 12.98
13 North_German 13.71
14 West_German 13.73
15 Southwest_Russian 14.3
16 Russian_Smolensk 14.48
17 Swedish 14.54
18 South_Dutch 14.78
19 Belorussian 14.8
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% Belorussian + 44.5% French @ 2.62
2 72.4% Austrian + 27.6% Belorussian @ 2.85
3 72.6% Austrian + 27.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.95
4 55.4% Estonian_Polish + 44.6% French @ 2.95
5 56.4% Southwest_Russian + 43.6% French @ 3.03
6 70.5% South_Polish + 29.5% French @ 3.04
7 78.2% Hungarian + 21.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.05
8 52.1% West_German + 47.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.07
9 56.1% Russian_Smolensk + 43.9% French @ 3.15
10 51.1% West_German + 48.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.15
11 72.2% Austrian + 27.8% Southwest_Russian @ 3.16
12 64.1% South_Polish + 35.9% West_German @ 3.2
13 52% West_German + 48% Belorussian @ 3.24
14 58.4% Austrian + 41.6% South_Polish @ 3.24
15 72.6% Austrian + 27.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.25
16 83.6% Hungarian + 16.4% Estonian @ 3.28
17 78.2% Austrian + 21.8% Lithuanian @ 3.28
18 50.9% Southwest_Russian + 49.1% South_Dutch @ 3.32
19 63% Belorussian + 37% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.34
20 78.7% Hungarian + 21.3% North_Swedish @ 3.36

Nice results, very central European.