Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

[Leto]

For Dodecad K12b

French_North,7.75,0.19,1.29,0.60,38.56,37.37,0.36,0.36,2.56,0.19,10.33,0.42
French_Northeast,7.49,0.34,1.30,0.10,38.30,37.06,0.11,0.13,3.53,0.20,11.19,0.25
French_Northwest,9.26,0.20,0.43,0,38.92,42.21,0.34,0.17,0.86,0.14,7.35,0.08
French_Southwest,5.56,0.16,2.00,0.21,53.12,27.50,0.69,0.12,2.61,0.43,7.54,0.06

Remove French and French2 and also Mixed_NW_Euro.

[noricum]

Yay, more Austrian Eurogenes K13 samples!

From lower Austria
noricum_inlaw(austrian),35.32,25.04,19.78,9.10,9.1 2,0.4,1.02,0.00,0.00,0.32,0.89,0.00,0.00

From Carinthia, half Carinthian Slovene (41 % Baltic dudes!!!)
noricum_halfbro(austrian),27.38,41.09,12.60,3.48,9 .44,1.47,2.72,0.19,0.22,0.07,1.00,0.23,0.00

[vbnetkhio]

Yay, more Austrian Eurogenes K13 samples!

From lower Austria
noricum_inlaw(austrian),35.32,25.04,19.78,9.10,9.1 2,0.4,1.02,0.00,0.00,0.32,0.89,0.00,0.00

From Carinthia, half Carinthian Slovene (41 % Baltic dudes!!!)
noricum_halfbro(austrian),27.38,41.09,12.60,3.48,9 .44,1.47,2.72,0.19,0.22,0.07,1.00,0.23,0.00

woah. I think the Slovenian with highest baltic I saw had only 40. that seemed to be the peak for south Slavs.

[Scandal]

Lukasz, can you rename 'Tatar' to 'Volga_Tatar' in the k13 spreadsheet?

[Leto]

Lukasz, can you rename 'Tatar' to 'Volga_Tatar' in the k13 spreadsheet?

In Russia the Volga Tatars are the default Tatars. Crimean Tatars are almost non-existent on the Russian mainland while there are over 5 million Volga Tatars in the country.

[Scandal]

In Russia

Yes.
Elsewhere not. When I saw it in the spreadsheet I didn't know which Tatars they are. Furthermore, Volga and Crimean Tatars aren't the only Tatar groups out there.

[Leto]

Yes.
Elsewhere not. When I saw it in the spreadsheet I didn't know which Tatars they are. Furthermore, Volga and Crimean Tatars aren't the only Tatar groups out there.

Actually in the former Soviet Union. In Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan most are Volga Tatars too who came over there together with Russian and other settlers. The same goes for Siberia (Asian Russia). In other countries, neither Russian-speaking nor East Slavic the number of Tatars is just irrelevant.

[Komintasavalta]

Almost all Finnish Tatars are Mishars from the Nizhny Novgorod region. Mishars are the second largest subgroup of Volga Tatars after Kazan Tatars. Finnish Tatars settled here in the 1800s during the era of Grand Duchy of Finland (http://tatar.fi/en/history/).

So even "Volga Tatar" could mean anything from a Finnish Mishar to a Nağaybäk from Chelyabinsk Oblast.

[Scandal]

Actually in the former Soviet Union. In Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan most are Volga Tatars too who came over there together with Russian and other settlers. The same goes for Siberia (Asian Russia). In other countries, neither Russian-speaking nor East Slavic the number f Tatars is just irrelevant.

You're Russian / Belarusian, so for you Tatar automatically means Volga Tatar, but for people who are from other countries that is not the case.

Almost all Finnish Tatars are Mishars from the Nizhny Novgorod region. Mishars are the second largest subgroup of Volga Tatars after Kazan Tatars. Finnish Tatars settled here in the 1800s during the era of Grand Duchy of Finland (http://tatar.fi/en/history/).
So even "Volga Tatar" could mean anything from a Finnish Mishar to a Nağaybäk from Chelyabinsk Oblast.

Calling them Volga Tatar is still better than confusing them with Crimean Tatars.

[Jana]

Lukasz, can you rename 'Tatar' to 'Volga_Tatar' in the k13 spreadsheet?

Yes it should be renamed to avoid confusion, very useful. Most people outside of ex-USSR never heard of Volga Tatars. In Croatia those very few that know what Tatars are would think these are Crimean Tatars, they are more known here than those from Volga.

These 2 populations are very different genetically so it should be clarified which is which, plus there are other Tatar groups out there (Siberian Tatars).