French Regional Averages by Tomenable

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Are native Corsicans really that Southern? The references added by someone to Gedmatch Vahaduo can be modeled as 75-80% Central Italian and 20-25% Sardinian.

Some Corsicans may have French ancestry by the way.

[J. Ketch]

Average of 27 French Canadian kits. Not really surprising results but anyway.

French_Canadian,42.98,19,19.40,4.43,9.16,1.56,0.41,0.37,0.51,1.34,0.38,0.29,0.10

Distance to:	French_Canadian
1.89087281	France_Central
3.40476137	France_north-east
3.45227461	Pennsylvania_Dutch
4.13190029	French
4.50153307	Swiss_German2
5.34150728	Swiss_German
5.60793188	France_Alsace
6.60894091	Belgian
6.74779964	Swiss_French
7.39611384	Italian_Aosta_Valley
7.63594788	Flemish
7.84673818	Afrikaner
7.92317487	Dutch_South
8.10064812	German_West
8.86141072	France_south
9.03716770	France_north-west
10.49953809	Spanish_Cataluna
10.86904780	English_Southeast
11.07214523	German
11.16532579	English_Midlands
11.36389898	English_Southwest
11.61554562	English
11.84480055	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
11.86196864	Spanish_Galicia
12.06465084	Portuguese

Target: French_Canadian
Distance: 0.5289% / 0.52894011 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.5	France_Central
7.0	Orcadian
6.6	Dutch_South
0.9	Pima

Target: French_Canadian
Distance: 0.8548% / 0.85484353 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.9	Orcadian
35.2	France_south
24.9	Italian_Friuli_VG

[Peterski]

Average of 27 French Canadian kits. Not really surprising results but anyway.

French_Canadian,42.98,19,19.40,4.43,9.16,1.56,0.41,0.37,0.51,1.34,0.38,0.29,0.10

Distance to:    French_Canadian
1.89087281    France_Central
3.40476137    France_north-east
3.45227461    Pennsylvania_Dutch
4.13190029    French
4.50153307    Swiss_German2
5.34150728    Swiss_German
5.60793188    France_Alsace
6.60894091    Belgian
6.74779964    Swiss_French
7.39611384    Italian_Aosta_Valley
7.63594788    Flemish
7.84673818    Afrikaner
7.92317487    Dutch_South
8.10064812    German_West
8.86141072    France_south
9.03716770    France_north-west
10.49953809    Spanish_Cataluna
10.86904780    English_Southeast
11.07214523    German
11.16532579    English_Midlands
11.36389898    English_Southwest
11.61554562    English
11.84480055    Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
11.86196864    Spanish_Galicia
12.06465084    Portuguese

Target: French_Canadian
Distance: 0.5289% / 0.52894011 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.5    France_Central
7.0    Orcadian
6.6    Dutch_South
0.9    Pima

Target: French_Canadian
Distance: 0.8548% / 0.85484353 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.9    Orcadian
35.2    France_south
24.9    Italian_Friuli_VG

I posted here a Quebec average with 53 kits:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6681531

[Flashball]

These borders are not fixed but quite fluent, this person has ancestors from northern parts of Grand Est and from Belgium.



But this has nothing to do with Polish admixture, being close to South Dutch is normal for samples from Nord-Pas-de-Calais.

This is why Picard are more closer to central french that English on a PCA and in general.

And this is why my father, picard, is more closer to a Berrichon central french that a Englishman.

Do you have the genralogy of these pseudo french simple?
Are they fully native?

If they have 1/8 and 1/16 and other they are not native.

Native french is by genealogy, if you are french over the last 500 years old like my father, you are a Français de souche, a native.

[Flashball]

Some Corsicans may have French ancestry by the way.

Corsicans are not french. So, this is not a question.
In a French serious study, people with other origin that french are not in that study...

Btw, yeah they are close to tuscan, they have also least WHG that sardinians and more Caucasus and Iran farmer.

[Leto]

Do you have the genralogy of these pseudo french simple?
Are they fully native?

If they have 1/8 and 1/16 and other they are not native.

Native french is by genealogy, if you are french over the last 500 years old like my father, you are a Français de souche, a native.

You are stupid if you think 1/8 and let alone 1/16 would make one a 'foreigner'. Most people cannot trace their ancestry two centuries back, nor is it necessary to be part of a nation. I knew all my grandparents personally but I have only some scarce information about my great-grandparents (almost nothing about 4 ouf of 8 beyond given names and approximate places of birth).
DNA studies would usually ask about your parents and grandparent. They never require deep genealogical research as far as I know.

[Leto]

Corsicans are not french. So, this is not a question.
In a French serious study, people with other origin that french are not in that study...

A cursory glance at the Wikipedia page about Corsica says it has been part of France since 1789. I guess Napoleon Bonaparte wasn't French then.

Corsica was ruled by the Republic of Genoa from 1284 to 1755, when it became a self-proclaimed, Italian-speaking Republic. In 1768, Genoa officially ceded it to Louis XV of France as part of a pledge for the debts it had incurred by enlisting France's military help in suppressing the Corsican revolt; in 1769 France went on to subsequently annex it. Napoleon Bonaparte was a native Corsican, born that same year in Ajaccio. His ancestral home, Maison Bonaparte, is today a significant visitor attraction and museum. Because of Corsica's historical ties to the Italian Peninsula, the island has retained many Italian cultural elements, and the native tongue is recognised as a regional language by the Government of France,furthermore a lot of surnames have italian origins

[Skeleton]

Average of 27 French Canadian kits. Not really surprising results but anyway.

French_Canadian,42.98,19,19.40,4.43,9.16,1.56,0.41,0.37,0.51,1.34,0.38,0.29,0.10

Distance to:	French_Canadian
1.89087281	France_Central
3.40476137	France_north-east
3.45227461	Pennsylvania_Dutch
4.13190029	French
4.50153307	Swiss_German2
5.34150728	Swiss_German
5.60793188	France_Alsace
6.60894091	Belgian
6.74779964	Swiss_French
7.39611384	Italian_Aosta_Valley
7.63594788	Flemish
7.84673818	Afrikaner
7.92317487	Dutch_South
8.10064812	German_West
8.86141072	France_south
9.03716770	France_north-west
10.49953809	Spanish_Cataluna
10.86904780	English_Southeast
11.07214523	German
11.16532579	English_Midlands
11.36389898	English_Southwest
11.61554562	English
11.84480055	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
11.86196864	Spanish_Galicia
12.06465084	Portuguese

Target: French_Canadian
Distance: 0.5289% / 0.52894011 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.5	France_Central
7.0	Orcadian
6.6	Dutch_South
0.9	Pima

Target: French_Canadian
Distance: 0.8548% / 0.85484353 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.9	Orcadian
35.2	France_south
24.9	Italian_Friuli_VG

Quebecers seem to be a pretty central French population which isn't surprising since the majority of immigrants to New France came from west-central regions of France.

[Samnium]

Average of 27 French Canadian kits. Not really surprising results but anyway.

I'm on a FB group which has a lot of Canadian French and they come more northern-shifted. Probably because there has been some mixing with anglophone canadians. There are also bretons and normans that have gone in Quebec so...

[Unknown European]

It is interesting that the North Dutch average on k13 is closer to the Irish average than the South English averages

Distance to: North_Dutch
3.82157036 Irish
3.95093660 North_German
4.61809485 West_Scottish
5.02466914 Southeast_English
6.24049678 Southwest_English
6.61683459 FRA_Armorica
9.64569334 South_Dutch
10.64378222 West_German
12.30881392 FRA_Belgica
13.60643230 FRA_Alsace
16.34836689 FRA_Central
22.92755765 FRA_Septimania
24.73600210 Spanish_Cataluna
26.45506946 Spanish_Cantabria
26.76749148 FRA_Provence
28.76224435 Spanish_Aragon
28.90068165 FRA_Aquitania
32.45368238 North_Italian
32.63792886 French_Basque
38.11859782 Tuscan