Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

[Leto]

Ahiska Turk member fiko0's results show %0 East Eurasian:

Fiko0(Ahiska_Turk),16.46,0,0.76,0,11.53,10.75,0,0,10.05,0,50.08,0.38

This is the average:

Turk_Ahiska,19.35,0.34,0.42,0.23,7.75,8.24,0.40,0,9.56,0.46,53.16,0.03

All the actual and presumable Meskhetian Turks I have (I personally find that group interesting)

16.46,0.00,0.76,0.00,11.53,10.75,0.00,0.00,10.05,0.00,50.08,0.38
18.08,0.30,0.50,0.13,8.24,9.46,0.65,0.22,8.97,0.42,53.03,0.00
18.26,0.89,0.21,0.43,8.27,8.25,0.23,0.00,7.38,0.00,56.06,0.00
19.21,1.56,0.00,0.00,6.43,11.48,1.15,0.00,7.15,3.54,49.48,0.00
21.36,0.00,0.00,0.00,8.46,9.25,1.20,0.00,8.14,0.00,51.59,0.00
21.43,0.00,0.00,0.00,8.93,6.57,1.45,0.00,7.98,0.00,52.96,0.67
18.37,0.53,0.64,0.54,6.51,6.98,0.14,0.00,12.40,0.00,53.89,0.00
18.35,1.12,0.00,0.34,7.57,8.44,1.58,0.14,11.15,0.00,51.21,0.10
18.80,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.15,8.73,0.78,0.50,10.66,0.00,54.30,0.10
19.85,0.40,0.00,0.13,9.71,9.14,0.90,0.00,8.19,0.00,51.58,0.10

The average of these kits

19.02,0.48,0.21,0.16,8.18,8.91,0.81,0.09,9.21,0.40,52.42,0.14

[RatCat]

i really can't understand. yeah i know phenotype ≠ genotype but i am half ahıskan and also quarter georgian lol. despite how can i look so turkic. i proud my blood but really i can't understand. i guess my only way to find out the truth is to have a test.

or i have a theory. i think the ahıska people are not homogeneous and they vary a lot from family to family. i read an article about the history of ahıska related to this. maybe east eurasia percentege low because of due to the number of testers.

It could be but they are definitely a minority. According to Leto's results only 1 has %5 EE and rest of them has %0-1

[Mejgusu]

or i have a theory. i think the ahıska people are not homogeneous and they vary a lot from family to family. i read an article about the history of ahıska related to this. maybe east eurasia percentege low because of due to the number of testers.

I saw a lot of Ahiska Turkish results and besides of some individuals(up to 5%) they show barely any east eurasian. As far I know Ahiskas weren’t even mentioned in Ottoman sources. But the amount of east eurasian shouldn’t be important for you, still you are a Turk like everyone from Mugla to Igdir.

[placebo]

I saw a lot of Ahiska Turkish results and besides of some individuals(up to 5%) they show barely any east eurasian. As far I know Ahiskas weren’t even mentioned in Ottoman sources. But the amount of east eurasian shouldn’t be important for you, still you are a Turk like everyone from Mugla to Igdir.

zaten türklükle alakalı bir sıkıntım yok kaldı ki bildiğim kadarıyla başka ölçeklerde ahıskalıların bölgenin yerel halkı ile olan farklılıkları ortaya çıkıyor. senin gibi düşünüyorum ben de türklük konusunda zaten fakat benim kafamı karıştıran kısım neredeyse orta asyalı gibi gözüküyorum fakat bildiğim kökenlerimin doğu avrasya oranı düşük. ahıskada doğu avrasya oranı düşük gürcülerin zaten doğu avrasya oranı yok kalan 1/4 kısmım da bursalı manav. bu kökene bakınca böyle bir görüntü biraz garip geliyor insana.

[Edgü]

I saw a lot of Ahiska Turkish results and besides of some individuals(up to 5%) they show barely any east eurasian. As far I know Ahiskas weren’t even mentioned in Ottoman sources. But the amount of east eurasian shouldn’t be important for you, still you are a Turk like everyone from Mugla to Igdir.

Amına koyduğumun şoparı Hazaraları Moğol yapan şey ne o zaman ?

[Sterling Archer]

Hopefully hasn't been posted before. Have not been following Aiska Turks.
Ahiska Turk from Posof:

Gedrosia 21.06 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.26 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.41 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.73 Pct
North_European 8.99 Pct
South_Asian 0.69 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.55 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 52.24 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.07 Pct

Distance to: Ahiska_Posof
2.41751939 Turk_Ahiska
6.05539429 Georgian
7.18164327 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.50886143 Abkhazian
7.87730284 Armenian_East
8.00201225 Hemshin
8.09200222 Laz
8.25872266 Georgian_Imereti
8.36478930 Georgian_Adjara
8.39571915 Georgian_Gurian
8.74316876 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.98134177 Turk_East
9.84681674 Georgian_Svan
10.36920441 Ossetian_South
10.44204961 Georgian_Mingrelian
10.52313166 Greek_Pontus
11.28317774 Armenian_West
11.79671988 Adyghe
11.85709492 Zaza
12.04391132 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.24220977 Ossetian
13.32825570 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.44612584 Azeri_Jew
13.56450884 Assyrian_North
13.67027798 Kurd_Adygea

[Edgü]

Amına koyduğumun şoparı Hazaraları Moğol yapan şey ne o zaman ?

Muğla ve Iğdır arasında yaşamamaları mı

[placebo]

Amına koyduğumun şoparı Hazaraları Moğol yapan şey ne o zaman ?

konuyu kirletmeye gerek yok ama bence ikinizin bahsettiği türklük kavramları farklı. biriniz türkiye türklüğünden bahsediyor biriniz turkic kavramından.

[Sterling Archer]

Another one, this time from Rize. This one is quite remarkable, has 5% mongoloid, higher than some Azerbaijanis:

Gedrosia 19.21 Pct
Siberian 1.56 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.43 Pct
North_European 11.48 Pct
South_Asian 1.15 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.15 Pct
East_Asian 3.54 Pct
Caucasus 49.48 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Ahiska_Rize
6.58616732 Turk_Ahiska
7.14744710 Ossetian_South
7.26915401 Adyghe
7.54802623 Ossetian
7.58307326 Abkhazian
8.33054620 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.81989796 Georgian
8.91320930 Turk_East
9.35954059 Circassian
9.42566178 Karachay
10.01629672 Ingush
10.19085374 Abazin
10.39927401 Armenian_East
10.49841417 Georgian_Gurian
10.82725265 Balkar
10.94414912 Georgian_Svan
11.12997754 Turk_East_Black_Sea
11.15301753 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.23826499 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.42077493 Georgian_Imereti
11.45539611 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
11.94031825 Hemshin
11.96129174 Laz
11.98566227 Kabardin
12.25213451 Talysh_Azerbaijan

[Edgü]

konuyu kirletmeye gerek yok ama bence ikinizin bahsettiği türklük kavramları farklı. biriniz türkiye türklüğünden bahsediyor biriniz turkic kavramından.

En kısa anlaşılır olduğunu düşündüğüm haliyle yazıyorum

Kimse *Türkiye Türklüğünden" ve Türk(ic) kavramından bahsetmiyor

Bak büyük ve yeşil yazdım anlamanda kolaylık sağlıyordur umarım

Burada bahsedilen şey "Bütün Türk kavimlerinin Türklüğü"

Kısaca kertenkele çocuk genetik olarak diğer Orta Asya ve Türkistan Türkleriyle ortak plotlanan Hazaralara Moğol yaftası yapıştırıyor

>Peki bu ne anlama geliyor ?

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1.Genetik olarak Hazaralara yakın Özbeklerin Türk olmayıp Moğol olduğu anlamına geliyor

2.Genetik olarak Hazaralara yakın Uygurların Türk olmayıp Moğol olduğu anlamına geliyor

3.Genetik olarak Hazaralara yakın "" Türk olmayıp Moğol olduğu anlamına geliyor

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