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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    I finally managed to create brand new Hungarian averages for K12b. Each regional average is based on 10 samples, specifically selected those which were the closest to their respective regional K13 averages, while the national average is based on 40 samples, and is a weighed aggregate of the 4 regional ones. Therefore please delete these:
    HUN_Szekely,5.69,2.23,0.86,0.54,27.11,38.92,0.47,0 .07,3.83,1.74,18.51,0.02
    Hungarians,4.10,0.70,0.00,0.00,27.00,48.40,0.30,0. 00,3.00,0.30,16.20,0.00

    And add these:
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    Hungarian,5.69,1.19,0.59,0.21,28.09,44.65,0.65,0.04,3.31,0.24,15.16,0.02
    Hungarian_Alföld,5.24,1.39,0.63,0.22,28.05,45.73,0.66,0.04,3.19,0.17,14.68,0
    Hungarian_North,5.16,1.31,0.6,0.26,27.34,46.81,0.55,0.01,2.91,0.13,14.93,0
    Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest,6.02,0.85,0.55,0.19,28.36,44.2,0.67,0.06,3.37,0.23,15.2,0.02
    Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely,6.06,2.42,0.62,0.18,27.89,40.32,0.6,0,4.06,0.73,16.94,0.09
    This is fucking awesome, thank you so much. Before the old ones are deleted, I'm gonna run your brand new pops against them just to see how good the original reference is.

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    Interesting that this calculator makes me be more Slavic than any other calculator, but still the only one which captures my Alföld ancestry so closely. I will post my K12b vs K13 results:

    K12b
    Distance to: Dunai
    2.20782699 Hungarian_North
    2.64499527 Hungarian_Alföld
    2.98667039 Hungarian
    3.10958197 Slovenian
    3.23913569 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
    3.58714371 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    4.48988864 Croat
    5.47313439 Slovak
    5.58246361 Bosnian
    5.88043366 Moldavian_North
    5.97503975 Czech
    6.35617023 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
    9.26466945 Serb
    9.58030793 Moldavian_Center
    9.78249968 Sorb_Lusatia
    10.19071636 German
    10.97535876 Ukrainian
    11.85410056 Polish_mixed
    12.12514330 Bavarian_German
    12.32261742 Dutch

    Target: Dunai
    Distance: 1.0064% / 1.00635418 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    60.2 Hungarian_North
    19.3 Moldavian_North
    17.1 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
    3.4 Tatar_Kazan

    K13
    Distance to: Dunai
    4.48241007 Austrian
    4.62222890 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    5.37693221 Hungarian
    6.12456529 Slovenian
    6.52157190 Hungarian_Alföld
    6.84295258 Croat_North
    6.92678858 German_East
    7.09174168 Hungarian_Northern
    7.71532242 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
    7.73996770 Csángó-Ceangău
    7.93761929 Czech
    8.01355102 Székely
    8.20033536 Croat_West
    8.30510084 Croat
    8.42333070 Slovak
    9.43855921 German
    9.79133290 Croat_East
    10.25001463 Croat_South
    10.78504057 France_Alsace
    11.28222939 Swiss_German

    Target: Dunai
    Distance: 1.4883% / 1.48833351 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    67.3 Austrian
    27.5 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    4.0 Shors
    1.2 Kazakh

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    Interesting results and distances for Hungarian national average according to K12b, Asiatic element is quite high:

    Distance to: Hungarian
    2.20977374 Slovenian
    4.50063329 Croat
    5.58943647 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
    5.71425411 Czech
    5.83219513 Bosnian
    6.28487072 Slovak
    6.53079628 Moldavian_North
    8.70864513 German
    8.78604006 Serb
    9.58056888 Moldavian_Center
    9.63002077 Bavarian_German
    10.15270900 Dutch
    10.46689543 Sorb_Lusatia
    11.53324326 German_Northwest
    12.47044907 Montenegrin
    12.77285794 Ukrainian
    13.10724609 Polish_mixed
    13.50904882 French_Northeast
    13.57984536 English_South
    13.82315449 Swedish
    13.88327771 French_North
    13.98614314 English_mixed
    14.03847926 Danish
    14.13306053 PL_Warmia-Masuria
    14.19300180 English_North
    14.28854086 French_Northwest
    14.40492277 Icelandic
    14.46091283 Romanian
    14.73363838 Macedonian

    Target: Hungarian
    Distance: 1.0110% / 1.01096769 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    83.9 Slovenian
    7.8 French_Northeast
    7.1 Tatar_Kazan
    1.2 Lipka_Tatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    I finally managed to create brand new Hungarian averages for K12b. Each regional average is based on 10 samples, specifically selected those which were the closest to their respective regional K13 averages, while the national average is based on 40 samples, and is a weighed aggregate of the 4 regional ones. Therefore please delete these:
    HUN_Szekely,5.69,2.23,0.86,0.54,27.11,38.92,0.47,0 .07,3.83,1.74,18.51,0.02
    Hungarians,4.10,0.70,0.00,0.00,27.00,48.40,0.30,0. 00,3.00,0.30,16.20,0.00

    And add these:
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    Hungarian,5.69,1.19,0.59,0.21,28.09,44.65,0.65,0.04,3.31,0.24,15.16,0.02
    Hungarian_Alföld,5.24,1.39,0.63,0.22,28.05,45.73,0.66,0.04,3.19,0.17,14.68,0
    Hungarian_North,5.16,1.31,0.6,0.26,27.34,46.81,0.55,0.01,2.91,0.13,14.93,0
    Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest,6.02,0.85,0.55,0.19,28.36,44.2,0.67,0.06,3.37,0.23,15.2,0.02
    Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely,6.06,2.42,0.62,0.18,27.89,40.32,0.6,0,4.06,0.73,16.94,0.09

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    Interesting results and distances for Hungarian national average according to K12b, Asiatic element is quite high:

    Distance to: Hungarian
    2.20977374 Slovenian
    4.50063329 Croat
    5.58943647 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
    5.71425411 Czech
    5.83219513 Bosnian
    6.28487072 Slovak
    6.53079628 Moldavian_North
    8.70864513 German
    8.78604006 Serb
    9.58056888 Moldavian_Center
    9.63002077 Bavarian_German
    10.15270900 Dutch
    10.46689543 Sorb_Lusatia
    11.53324326 German_Northwest
    12.47044907 Montenegrin
    12.77285794 Ukrainian
    13.10724609 Polish_mixed
    13.50904882 French_Northeast
    13.57984536 English_South
    13.82315449 Swedish
    13.88327771 French_North
    13.98614314 English_mixed
    14.03847926 Danish
    14.13306053 PL_Warmia-Masuria
    14.19300180 English_North
    14.28854086 French_Northwest
    14.40492277 Icelandic
    14.46091283 Romanian
    14.73363838 Macedonian

    Target: Hungarian
    Distance: 1.0110% / 1.01096769 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    83.9 Slovenian
    7.8 French_Northeast
    7.1 Tatar_Kazan
    1.2 Lipka_Tatar
    Bloggen and Turul Karom style Türkic nation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Bloggen and Turul Karom style Türkic nation
    This calculator definitely does capture a strong Turkic substratum in Modern Hungarians, unlike K13, in this case I do wonder which is more reliable.

    K13
    Target: Hungarian
    Distance: 0.7080% / 0.70799160 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    35.4 Croat_North
    25.7 Slovenian
    23.7 Csángó-Ceangău
    8.8 Austrian
    6.4 Croat_West

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    This calculator definitely does capture a strong Turkic substratum in Modern Hungarians, unlike K13, in this case I do wonder which is more reliable.

    K13
    Target: Hungarian
    Distance: 0.7080% / 0.70799160 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    35.4 Croat_North
    25.7 Slovenian
    23.7 Csángó-Ceangău
    8.8 Austrian
    6.4 Croat_West
    Well, 8% Tatar is probably equivalent to 24% Csango.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    This calculator definitely does capture a strong Turkic substratum in Modern Hungarians, unlike K13, in this case I do wonder which is more reliable.

    K13
    Target: Hungarian
    Distance: 0.7080% / 0.70799160 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    35.4 Croat_North
    25.7 Slovenian
    23.7 Csángó-Ceangău
    8.8 Austrian
    6.4 Croat_West
    Well Csango have lot of mongoloid compared to rest of people in wider region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Well, 8% Tatar is probably equivalent to 24% Csango.
    Could be true, if I take out Hungarians from Transylvania, who are the closest to Csángós, this is what they get on K13:
    Target: Csángó-Ceangău
    Distance: 0.9087% / 0.90874540 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    52.1 Hungarian_Alföld
    26.0 Romania_Moldavia_North
    13.0 Swiss_French
    8.9 Crimean_Tatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Well, 8% Tatar is probably equivalent to 24% Csango.
    Remove Csango from the reference populations, run again, and see what replaces them.
    My DNA Origin analysis for 16 EUR (you get 2 reports examining ancestry from 2114 regions, 190 countries): https://www.exploreyourdna.com/DNAOrigin.aspx

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