German GEDmatch results

**Peterski** · 03-08-2021, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Bavarian
https://www.olf-stoiber.de/

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.98
2 Baltic 23.94
3 West_Med 15.99
4 East_Med 7.73
5 West_Asian 6.77
6 Oceanian 0.84
7 Amerindian 0.47
8 Siberian 0.16
9 Northeast_African 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 2.38
2 South_Dutch 2.77
3 Southeast_English 6.77
4 North_German 7.42
5 French 7.75
6 Austrian 8.22
7 North_Dutch 8.55
8 Southwest_English 8.61
9 Orcadian 8.62
10 Danish 8.68
11 East_German 9.65
12 Irish 9.66
13 West_Scottish 10.23
14 Norwegian 10.72
15 Swedish 11.22
16 Hungarian 12.84
17 Spanish_Cataluna 15.1
18 North_Swedish 15.23
19 Spanish_Galicia 16.46
20 Portuguese 16.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.5% Southeast_English + 22.5% Bulgarian @ 1.7
2 75% Southeast_English + 25% Romanian @ 1.77
3 72.8% Southwest_English + 27.2% Bulgarian @ 1.85
4 70% Southwest_English + 30% Romanian @ 1.9
5 66.4% Southwest_English + 33.6% Serbian @ 1.9
6 72% Southeast_English + 28% Serbian @ 1.99
7 86.1% North_German + 13.9% Sardinian @ 2.02
8 65.8% Norwegian + 34.2% North_Italian @ 2.08
9 91.3% West_German + 8.7% Swedish @ 2.13
10 90.9% West_German + 9.1% Norwegian @ 2.14
11 86.1% West_German + 13.9% Southeast_English @ 2.14
12 89.2% West_German + 10.8% North_Dutch @ 2.16
13 89.4% West_German + 10.6% Orcadian @ 2.16
14 89.4% West_German + 10.6% Southwest_English @ 2.17
15 91.2% West_German + 8.8% Irish @ 2.2
16 94.5% West_German + 5.5% North_Swedish @ 2.22
17 91.8% West_German + 8.2% East_German @ 2.23
18 91% West_German + 9% Danish @ 2.23
19 97.1% West_German + 2.9% Estonian @ 2.23
20 92.4% West_German + 7.6% West_Scottish @ 2.23

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 30.35
2 Atlantic 27.34
3 Baltic 11.89
4 West_Med 11.38
5 Eastern_Euro 7.76
6 West_Asian 7.44
7 East_Med 3.25
8 Oceanian 0.58

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 3.49
2 Southwest_English 6.01
3 North_German 6.22
4 Southeast_English 6.8
5 West_German 6.81
6 French 7.25
7 Irish 8.21
8 North_Dutch 8.4
9 Danish 8.54
10 West_Scottish 9.02
11 East_German 9.54
12 Orcadian 10.13
13 Norwegian 11.51
14 Swedish 12.05
15 Austrian 12.44
16 West_Norwegian 12.94
17 Hungarian 13.75
18 North_Swedish 13.94
19 Spanish_Cataluna 14.33
20 Spanish_Galicia 15.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.3% Southwest_English + 19.7% Bulgarian @ 2.84
2 78.2% Southwest_English + 21.8% Romanian @ 2.88
3 88.8% North_German + 11.2% Sardinian @ 3
4 97.1% South_Dutch + 2.9% North_Ossetian @ 3.18
5 90.4% Southwest_English + 9.6% North_Ossetian @ 3.2
6 97.1% South_Dutch + 2.9% Chechen @ 3.22
7 89.8% Southwest_English + 10.2% Kabardin @ 3.23
8 90.2% Southwest_English + 9.8% Adygei @ 3.23
9 90% Southwest_English + 10% Balkar @ 3.24
10 97.8% South_Dutch + 2.2% Abhkasian @ 3.25
11 97.4% South_Dutch + 2.6% Ossetian @ 3.25
12 97.4% South_Dutch + 2.6% Balkar @ 3.26
13 72.5% North_German + 27.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.26
14 97.4% South_Dutch + 2.6% Adygei @ 3.26
15 97.3% South_Dutch + 2.7% Kabardin @ 3.27
16 97.8% South_Dutch + 2.2% Georgian @ 3.28
17 55% North_German + 45% French @ 3.28
18 82.2% South_Dutch + 17.8% North_German @ 3.3
19 76.3% North_German + 23.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.33
20 78.5% Southeast_English + 21.5% Bulgarian @ 3.33

Gedrosia 5.79 Pct
Siberian 0.5 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 33.1 Pct
North_European 41.51 Pct
South_Asian 0.1 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.88 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 17.11 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Olf
4.48232083 Bavarian_German
6.46945129 Slovenian
7.06471514 Croat
7.45349582 HUN_Szekely
8.39988095 Bosnian
8.45868784 Serb
9.14563284 Dutch
9.33010182 MD_North
9.45232776 French_Northeast
9.47579548 Hungarians
9.89209786 Czech
9.98766740 French_North
10.58083173 MD_Center
10.76559334 German
10.85346949 Montenegrin
10.91680814 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
11.60330556 English_South
11.61367298 German_Northwest
11.73457711 Slovak
11.96196890 French_Northwest

Distance to: Olf
1.77508837 62.40% Bavarian_German + 37.60% Croat
2.05095361 73.00% Bavarian_German + 27.00% Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
2.09731448 67.20% Bavarian_German + 32.80% Bosnian
2.12561356 70.00% Bavarian_German + 30.00% Hungarians
2.15485326 60.80% Bavarian_German + 39.20% Slovenian
2.21463812 52.20% Italian_Trentino + 47.80% Sorb_Lusatia
2.22171060 70.00% Bavarian_German + 30.00% MD_North
2.24848356 44.20% Italian_Lombardy + 55.80% Sorb_Lusatia
2.24939325 62.80% Czech + 37.20% Italian_Veneto
2.25618135 30.40% Italian_Aosta_Valley + 69.60% Slovenian
2.26190161 54.60% Dutch + 45.40% Montenegrin
2.27622019 60.20% Hungarians + 39.80% Italian_Aosta_Valley
2.31694148 66.40% Czech + 33.60% Italian_Lombardy
2.32550796 58.80% Czech + 41.20% Italian_Trentino
2.38954777 48.00% Italian_Veneto + 52.00% Sorb_Lusatia
2.45797342 83.40% Croat + 16.60% Spanish_Basque
2.45897153 59.20% Dutch + 40.80% Macedonian
2.52993314 50.80% Sorb_Lusatia + 49.20% Swiss_Italian
2.53045742 75.40% Slovenian + 24.60% Spanish_Baleares
2.54943593 59.40% Italian_Trentino + 40.60% PL_Mazovia

Probably from North-Eastern Bavaria because he has some Slavic admixture.

Can you post the kit number or K36?

**Leto** · 03-08-2021, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Peterski

Probably from North-Eastern Bavaria because he has some Slavic admixture.

Can you post the kit number or K36?

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.49 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.57 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.49 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 2.73 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 3.54 Pct
Fennoscandian 8.97 Pct
French 7.45 Pct
Iberian 15.02 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 14.62 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 16.69 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.39 Pct
North_Sea 14.75 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.29 Pct
West_Med -

**Kyp** · 03-08-2021, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Peterski

Probably from North-Eastern Bavaria because he has some Slavic admixture.

Can you post the kit number or K36?

Judging from his name he is from Southern Bavaria

**Peterski** · 03-08-2021, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Kyp

Judging from his name he is from Southern Bavaria

Yeah, when using K36, Slavic admixture is completely absent, and in fact he is very Celtic-shifted. So yeah, it makes sense.

I'm not sure why Slavic appears so much in his Dodecad K12b Oracle, that was misleading. With K36 this does not show up.

**J. Ketch** · 03-11-2021, 07:22 PM

Average of 18 Southern German results (Bavaria, Baden-Wurttemburg, Rhineland-Pfalz & Hessia)

Code:

German_South,41.78,22.89,16.36,6.24,9.41,1.09,0.52,0.25,0.31,0.42,0.38,0.18,0.11

Code:

Distance to:	German_South
1.40085688	France_Alsace
2.24519487	Swiss_German2
2.40937751	Pennsylvania_Dutch
2.46369641	Swiss_German
3.10378801	France_north-east
4.25241108	Belgian
4.27588587	German_West
5.38879393	Flemish
5.43031307	Afrikaner
6.07754062	Swiss_French
6.33097939	German
6.45768534	France_Central
8.56256387	France_north-west
8.69923560	Austrian
9.13985230	French
9.46383115	English_Southeast
9.86094316	English_Midlands
10.16089563	Italian_Aosta_Valley
10.34730883	English
10.35703143	Dutch
10.52942069	English_Southwest
10.67860946	North_German
11.13780948	Dutch_Central
11.22266902	English_North
11.43776202	Welsh

Target: German_South
Distance: 0.1943% / 0.19428689 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.1	Swiss_German2
34.4	Flemish
8.5	Croat_West

Target: German_South
Distance: 0.5789% / 0.57891961 | R2P | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.8	France_Alsace
23.2	Belgian

Target: German_South
Distance: 0.3811% / 0.38109367 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.2	Swiss_German2
23.6	France_Alsace
16.8	German
14.1	Pennsylvania_Dutch
8.3	Belgian

Average of 22 Northwest German results (Lower Saxony, Schleswig-Holstein, Hamburg & NRW)

Code:

German_Northwest,48.15,27.06,11.62,5.35,3.94,0.84,1.28,0.13,0.43,0.44,0.40,0.15,0.14

Code:

Distance to:	German_Northwest
2.28516958	Dutch
2.36586137	Dutch_Central
2.47967740	North_German
2.59079138	Dutch_North
3.80320917	Denmark
4.26923881	Icelandic
4.30864248	English_North
4.32463871	Sweden_Götaland
4.42860023	Norway_South_Central
4.45269581	English
4.45912547	English_Southeast
4.48781684	English_Midlands
4.53018763	Norwegian
4.60625661	Orcadian
4.91450913	Swedish
5.11561336	Sweden_Svealand_West
5.23874031	English_Southwest
5.33401350	Welsh
5.70074557	Scottish
6.09453033	Irish_Leinster
6.18203850	Flemish
6.29612579	France_north-west
6.48151217	German
6.68440723	West_Scottish
6.68973094	German_West

Target: German_Northwest
Distance: 0.6313% / 0.63132538 | R2P | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.4	Dutch_North
16.6	Austrian

Target: German_Northwest
Distance: 0.4435% / 0.44350357 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.7	Dutch
20.1	Swedish
20.0	North_German
8.2	German

w/o North German and German references

Target: German_Northwest
Distance: 0.6073% / 0.60733228 | R2P | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.2	Norway_South_Central
25.8	Swiss_German2

Target: German_Northwest
Distance: 0.3588% / 0.35884866 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.1	Dutch
38.4	Denmark
11.6	Austrian
0.5	Punjabi_Jat
0.4	Swedish

Target: German_Northwest
Distance: 0.3209% / 0.32085763 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.6	Swedish
28.8	German_West
24.6	Scottish

Stark difference.

**Lucas** · 03-11-2021, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Creoda

Average of 18 Southern German results (Bavaria, Baden-Wurttemburg, Rhineland-Pfalz & Hessia)

Code:

German_South,41.78,22.89,16.36,6.24,9.41,1.09,0.52,0.25,0.31,0.42,0.38,0.18,0.11

Code:

Distance to:	German_South
1.40085688	France_Alsace
2.24519487	Swiss_German2
2.40937751	Pennsylvania_Dutch
2.46369641	Swiss_German
3.10378801	France_north-east
4.25241108	Belgian
4.27588587	German_West
5.38879393	Flemish
5.43031307	Afrikaner
6.07754062	Swiss_French
6.33097939	German
6.45768534	France_Central
8.56256387	France_north-west
8.69923560	Austrian
9.13985230	French
9.46383115	English_Southeast
9.86094316	English_Midlands
10.16089563	Italian_Aosta_Valley
10.34730883	English
10.35703143	Dutch
10.52942069	English_Southwest
10.67860946	North_German
11.13780948	Dutch_Central
11.22266902	English_North
11.43776202	Welsh

Target: German_South
Distance: 0.1943% / 0.19428689 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.1	Swiss_German2
34.4	Flemish
8.5	Croat_West

Target: German_South
Distance: 0.5789% / 0.57891961 | R2P | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.8	France_Alsace
23.2	Belgian

Target: German_South
Distance: 0.3811% / 0.38109367 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.2	Swiss_German2
23.6	France_Alsace
16.8	German
14.1	Pennsylvania_Dutch
8.3	Belgian

Average of 22 Northwest German results (Lower Saxony, Schleswig-Holstein, Hamburg & NRW)

Code:

German_Northwest,48.15,27.06,11.62,5.35,3.94,0.84,1.28,0.13,0.43,0.44,0.40,0.15,0.14

Code:

Distance to:	German_Northwest
2.28516958	Dutch
2.36586137	Dutch_Central
2.47967740	North_German
2.59079138	Dutch_North
3.80320917	Denmark
4.26923881	Icelandic
4.30864248	English_North
4.32463871	Sweden_Götaland
4.42860023	Norway_South_Central
4.45269581	English
4.45912547	English_Southeast
4.48781684	English_Midlands
4.53018763	Norwegian
4.60625661	Orcadian
4.91450913	Swedish
5.11561336	Sweden_Svealand_West
5.23874031	English_Southwest
5.33401350	Welsh
5.70074557	Scottish
6.09453033	Irish_Leinster
6.18203850	Flemish
6.29612579	France_north-west
6.48151217	German
6.68440723	West_Scottish
6.68973094	German_West

Target: German_Northwest
Distance: 0.6313% / 0.63132538 | R2P | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.4	Dutch_North
16.6	Austrian

Target: German_Northwest
Distance: 0.4435% / 0.44350357 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.7	Dutch
20.1	Swedish
20.0	North_German
8.2	German

w/o North German and German references

Target: German_Northwest
Distance: 0.6073% / 0.60733228 | R2P | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.2	Norway_South_Central
25.8	Swiss_German2

Target: German_Northwest
Distance: 0.3588% / 0.35884866 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.1	Dutch
38.4	Denmark
11.6	Austrian
0.5	Punjabi_Jat
0.4	Swedish

Target: German_Northwest
Distance: 0.3209% / 0.32085763 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.6	Swedish
28.8	German_West
24.6	Scottish

Stark difference.

NRW should be divided, Nordrhein to south, Westfalen (and Lippe-Detmold, I saw such kits) of course stays at the north.

**Luke35** · 03-11-2021, 07:44 PM

Thank for the new averages Creoda, result is pretty spot on for my mother. Her ancestry is German + 1/8 English.

Source:

Code:

English,49.92,23.49,13.55,5.65,3.78,0.70,1.08,0.14,0.26,0.55,0.41,0.22,0.19
English_Midlands,49.62,23.45,13.76,5.66,4.13,0.58,0.96,0.20,0.22,0.47,0.43,0.25,0.21
English_North,50.47,23.89,13.16,5.68,3.22,0.66,1.07,0.09,0.29,0.62,0.41,0.17,0.20
English_Southeast,49.15,23.27,13.63,5.91,4.21,0.76,1.11,0.17,0.27,0.56,0.44,0.26,0.19
English_Southwest,50.26,23.06,14.23,5.30,3.67,0.76,1.13,0.03,0.20,0.54,0.45,0.17,0.13
German_East,37.14,34.35,13.58,5.86,5.61,0.87,1.08,0.06,0.25,0.58,0.30,0.14,0.17
German_West,44.26,23.82,14.00,6.94,7.16,0.86,0.62,0.36,0.40,0.49,0.38,0.41,0.18
German_South,41.78,22.89,16.36,6.24,9.41,1.09,0.52,0.25,0.31,0.42,0.38,0.18,0.11
German_Northwest,48.15,27.06,11.62,5.35,3.94,0.84,1.28,0.13,0.43,0.44,0.40,0.15,0.14

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Target: MrG-mom
Distance: 0.9551% / 0.95511621
45.4 German_West
23.1 German_South
19.5 English_Southeast
12.0 German_Northwest

**J. Ketch** · 03-11-2021, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Lucas

NRW should be divided, Nordrhein to south, Westfalen (and Lippe-Detmold, I saw such kits) of course stays at the north.

Will do so from now on, but the kits I have marked as NRW are pretty Northern, maybe they're all Westphalians.

Code:

NRW1	45.06	28.94	12.89	1.56	8.38	0.32	2.05	0	0	0	0.16	0.33	0.25	
NRW2	49.44	26.14	13.02	4.53	1.38	1.99	2.2	0	0.34	0.41	0.33	0	0.23	
NRW3	49.12	26.05	11.69	5.4	3.41	0.37	1.73	0.66	0.94	0	0.31	0	0.27	 
NRW4	46.07	27.78	10.66	9.14	2.85	0.62	1.14	0	0.52	0.24	0.84	0	0.13	
NRW5	42.45	29.11	13.09	9.96	4.07	0	0.08	0	1.24	0	0	0	0	
NRW6	44.57	24.27	13.99	7.75	5.68	1.19	0.65	0	0	0.37	0.63	0.89	0

**Lucas** · 03-11-2021, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Creoda

Will do so from now on, but the kits I have marked as NRW are pretty Northern, maybe they're all Westphalians.

Code:

NRW1	45.06	28.94	12.89	1.56	8.38	0.32	2.05	0	0	0	0.16	0.33	0.25	
NRW2	49.44	26.14	13.02	4.53	1.38	1.99	2.2	0	0.34	0.41	0.33	0	0.23	
NRW3	49.12	26.05	11.69	5.4	3.41	0.37	1.73	0.66	0.94	0	0.31	0	0.27	 
NRW4	46.07	27.78	10.66	9.14	2.85	0.62	1.14	0	0.52	0.24	0.84	0	0.13	
NRW5	42.45	29.11	13.09	9.96	4.07	0	0.08	0	1.24	0	0	0	0

Yes, it is easier to find Westfalen. Could be you have them all fro NRW.