Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

[Leto]

Wtf are you high on. How did those Kurdish samples become mine when they're posted on a known Kurdish blogger Palisto's website ???

Spewing lame excuse after another doesn't do much for your credibility son.

I couldn't give 2 shits about Dodecad Vahaduo or your bogus Kurdish average. I have already proved what I needed that your average is not representative of Iraqi Kurds by showing:

1- You or someone threw out the Kurdish average made by Dienekes the Dodecad K12 calculator himself and shown in the Gedmatch spreadsheets. I know you would love to alter the Gedmatch Dodecad K12 spreadsheet too on Gedmatch if you could.

2- The Kurdish average in Vahaduo doesn't agree with the creator's Dodecad K12 average in Gedmatch AND with the average from a well known site http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/search?q=dodecad

According to you the calculator creator's average is bogus and so are the samples on Palisto's Kurdish DNA blog. Good luck having anyone older than 2 years old buy that

Nothing more to say on this.

Lol, it wasn't me who added the Kurdish averages except for the very recent Kurd_Adygea which is there basically for fun, it's not crucial at all. The main Kurdish pops are from an old spreadsheet that was made by a Turk from another forum. Something like that. I don't know why you consider them inaccurate.

[Aren]

Maybe he is Iraq Turkmen+Arab?
Amer to me sounds Turkish but you are right its definitely not Iranian I should have caught that
Could be Turkey Kurd+Arab

I don't think this is a new kit. I collected a kit that scored similar to this with the same name months ago. I think I made the conclusion that he was an Iraqi Turkmen or Kurd considering his matches.

[Zoro]

Lol, it wasn't me who added the Kurdish averages except for the very recent Kurd_Adygea which is there basically for fun, it's not crucial at all. The main Kurdish pops are from an old spreadsheet that was made by a Turk from another forum. Something like that. I don't know why you consider them inaccurate.

I didn't say they're inaccurate. They maybe good for some Kurds in Turkey. All I'm saying is that average doesn't represent my Iraqi Kurdish samples and the ones on Palisto's site and I'm pretty sure it's not representative of Kurds in Kurdistan, Kermanshah and Ilam provinces in Iran.

The calculator creator's average on his spreadsheet on Gedmatch which someone CHOSE not to include in Vahaduo works better for us than the one on Vahaduo. There's no reason why the original average from the Gedmatch wasn't included, nor to make separate averages based on Palisto's Sorani and Feyli Kurd samples.

I don't see a problem with having

Kurd-Feyli
Kurd-Sorani

based on all of Palisto's samples because those would be more representative of my Iraqi Kurd samples.

It would also be nice if someone would make an average for Kurds-Kermanshah and Kurds-Khorasan

[Dr_Maul]

Göktürk, Y-DNA: O. If this sample was already posted then sorry. This one is a bit odd, has too much Atl-Med.

Gedrosia: 7.4 Pct
Siberian: 10.42 Pct
NW-African: 0.38 Pct
SE-Asia: 2.92 Pct
Atl-Med: 13.61 Pct
North Euro: 27.66 Pct
South Asia: -
East African: -
SW-Asian: -
East Asian: 26.71 Pct
Caucasus: 10.4 Pct
Ssa: 0.5 Pct

Distance to: Göktürk
14.24587309 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
15.67308202 Lipka_Tatar
16.99759101 Nogai_Astrakhan
17.87468321 Nogai_Stavropol
18.74525807 Karakalpak
19.26337457 Bashkir_South
20.19470970 Tatar_Siberia
20.93510688 Bashkir_Central
21.56958739 Uzbek
21.79839902 Uzbeki
22.02870854 Turkmen_Afghanistan
22.30725443 Uyghur
23.19190160 Kazakh
24.53616718 Bashkir_North
24.79850802 Tatar_Kazan
25.08443741 Tubalar
25.93783144 Kyrgyz_Pamir
26.72897304 Altaian_Chelkan
27.17264065 Hazara
27.23135876 Kyrgyz
27.32523742 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
28.69574533 Tatar_Mishar
29.43977751 Besermyan_Udmurtia
29.51666987 Shor
29.86780039 Chuvash

Target: Göktürk
Distance: 2.0521% / 2.05205541 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.9 Lipka_Tatar
18.6 Japanese
15.1 Nogai_Astrakhan
10.9 Swedish
4.5 Finnish_West

Target: Göktürk
Distance: 4.0051% / 4.00512522 | ADC: 0.5x RC
81.4 Lipka_Tatar
18.6 Japanese

With nearly 3x more E Asian than Siberian I think its safe to say he his already atypical

[Kyp]

I didn't say they're inaccurate. They maybe good for some Kurds in Turkey. All I'm saying is that average doesn't represent my Iraqi Kurdish samples and the ones on Palisto's site and I'm pretty sure it's not representative of Kurds in Kurdistan, Kermanshah and Ilam provinces in Iran.

The calculator creator's average on his spreadsheet on Gedmatch which someone CHOSE not to include in Vahaduo works better for us than the one on Vahaduo. There's no reason why the original average from the Gedmatch wasn't included, nor to make separate averages based on Palisto's Sorani and Feyli Kurd samples.

I don't see a problem with having

Kurd-Feyli
Kurd-Sorani

based on all of Palisto's samples because those would be more representative of my Iraqi Kurd samples.

It would also be nice if someone would make an average for Kurds-Kermanshah and Kurds-Khorasan

I actually agree. A Feyli average is needed.

We could just take the availabe mean from this blog:

http://feylidnaproject.blogspot.com/...art-1.html?m=0

Kurd_Feyli,27.47,1.12,1.26,0.33,4.98,5.36,3.77,0.3 4,14.60,0.30,40.12,0.14

Distance to: Kurd_Feyli
2.16407024 Iranian_Lur
3.83799427 Kurd_Adygea
4.31144987 Yazidi
4.45098865 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.65290232 Kurd_Sorani
5.40834540 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.04023178 Zaza
6.78204247 Turkmen_Iraq
7.27757515 Iranian_Mazandaran
8.06406845 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.96435146 Azerbaijani
10.28362290 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.50634570 Udi
11.24526122 Iranian_Khorasan
11.85531948 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.02366417 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.42973049 Turk_Southeast
12.45608687 Mandean
13.08947669 Turk_East
13.52025148 Azeri_Jew
14.35576539 Assyrian_North
14.40456525 Arab_Iran
14.68004428 Assyrian_South
15.13974901 Kurdish_Jew
15.32473817 Assyrian_West

Target: Kurd_Feyli
Distance: 1.6104% / 1.61036130 | ADC: 0.5x RC
68.7 Iranian_Lur
22.9 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.4 Iranian_Mazandaran

[Sterling Archer]

Close match of an Azerbaijani from Guba I shared a while back. Judging from the matches seems to be half Azeri (North) and Ashkenazi Jew.

Gedrosia 15.05 Pct
Siberian 1.87 Pct
Northwest_African 2.66 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.14 Pct
Atlantic_Med 16.87 Pct
North_European 13.38 Pct
South_Asian 1.3 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11 Pct
East_Asian 0.55 Pct
Caucasus 36.09 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.08 Pct

Distance to: Aze+Jew
6.13877024 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.81593721 Turk_Central_West
7.95230155 Turk_Southwest
8.30590754 Turk_Northwest
8.60443490 Turk_Central_East
8.98792523 Turk_South
9.83175468 Turk_Southeast
9.86505955 Greek_Crete
10.23827134 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.68312688 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.79165882 Greek_Fournoi
11.05952531 Greek_Kos
11.31860415 Greek_Izmir
11.35548326 Greek_Lemnos
11.43401942 Turk_Cyprus
11.62928631 Azerbaijani
11.82392490 Greek_Rhodes
11.99275198 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.12121183 Italian_Apulia
13.13768625 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.21120736 Moldavian_Jewish
13.45560106 Turk_East
13.45976597 Greek_Foca
13.62560457 Italian_Sicily
13.63655015 Italian_Calabria

Distance to: Aze+Jew
1.53821026 49.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 50.80% Italian_Sicily
1.91304731 50.00% Azerbaijani_Iran + 50.00% Italian_Apulia
1.96887617 57.40% Italian_Jews + 42.60% Lezgin
2.09028016 54.60% Azerbaijani_Iran + 45.40% Greek_Central
2.11444505 49.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 50.80% Italian_Calabria
2.13095778 48.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 51.60% Moldavian_Jewish
2.15266052 46.20% Azerbaijani_Iran + 53.80% Greek_Lemnos
2.15599165 50.00% Ashkenazi_Jews + 50.00% Azerbaijani_Dagestan
2.19670520 55.00% Azerbaijani_Iran + 45.00% Greek_Athens
2.22884051 57.20% Italian_Apulia + 42.80% Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.23715036 68.80% Greek_Rhodes + 31.20% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.30290632 51.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 48.60% Italian_Campania
2.35077985 53.20% Azerbaijani + 46.80% Italian_Apulia
2.38559713 50.60% Azerbaijani_Iran + 49.40% Greek_Foca
2.42411602 70.40% Greek_Kos + 29.60% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.43425215 39.60% Albanian + 60.40% Azerbaijani_Iran
2.47015485 52.40% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 47.60% Italian_Apulia
2.48290118 60.40% Azerbaijani_Iran + 39.60% Italian_Lazio
2.48958318 50.40% Greek_Athens + 49.60% Yazidi
2.49388275 57.20% Sephardic_Jews + 42.80% Tabasaran
2.50624162 48.00% Greek_Athens + 52.00% Kurd_Kurmanji
2.50699781 53.80% Azerbaijani_Iran + 46.20% Italian_Abruzzo
2.51299433 56.00% Azerbaijani_Iran + 44.00% Greek_Peloponnese
2.52086847 42.20% Avar + 57.80% Sephardic_Jews
2.53597412 48.40% Greek_Central + 51.60% Kurd_Kurmanji

[RatCat]

Why there isn't any Georgian_Jew average on the spreadsheet? I have a %75 Georgian Jew match and he has bunch of Georgian Jew matches, I can make an average for the spreadsheet.

[RatCat]

Why there isn't any Georgian_Jew average on the spreadsheet? I have a %75 Georgian Jew match and he has bunch of Georgian Jew matches, I can make an average for the spreadsheet.

For example one of them, a Georgian Jew

Population
Gedrosia 17.59 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.73 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.35 Pct
North_European 5.82 Pct
South_Asian 0.38 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 18.19 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 47.91 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Distance to: ***
4.40386194 Azeri_Jew
4.52952536 Assyrian_North
4.87841163 Assyrian_South
4.88155713 Assyrian_West
5.45609751 Armenian_West
5.68883116 Armenian_East
6.92017341 Kurdish_Jew
7.49259635 Turk_East
7.84125628 Mandean
7.89233806 Iraqi_Jew
8.32666200 Udi
10.14414117 Zaza
10.31898251 Greek_Pontus
10.36815798 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.65133325 Turk_Ahiska
11.23340554 Nusayri_Turkey
11.44471931 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.44558867 Hemshin
11.50396888 Turkmen_Iraq
11.67571839 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.12684625 Kurd_Adygea
12.24198922 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.26352723 Kurd_Sorani
12.30140642 Lebanese_Christian
12.33741869 Talysh_Azerbaijan

Target: ***
Distance: 2.1662% / 2.16618402 | R2P
72.4 Kurdish_Jew
27.6 Abkhazian


Target: ***
Distance: 1.0960% / 1.09604853 | R3P
57.9 Turk_Ahiska
27.8 Assyrian_North
14.3 Saudi

Target: ***
Distance: 1.2566% / 1.25657683 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.1 Azeri_Jew
25.1 Abkhazian
16.8 Armenian_East
8.8 Kuwait2
0.2 Chechen

Another one of them

Target: *7*7
Distance: 1.0365% / 1.03650585 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.2 Armenian_East
29.2 Abkhazian
19.6 Azeri_Jew
5.9 Yemenite_Mahra
5.1 Kuwait2

[Leto]

Why there isn't any Georgian_Jew average on the spreadsheet? I have a %75 Georgian Jew match and he has bunch of Georgian Jew matches, I can make an average for the spreadsheet.

A good idea but don't confuse them with Mountain Jews, they're a separate thing.

[Kyp]

Also btw. why is Iranian_Fars deleted?