J2 and the foundation of Human Civilization

[Adamm]

I hate all haplogroups except for my E brothers.

[Dr_Maul]

I hate all haplogroups except for my E brothers.

Since E were our loyal compatriots during Roman and Sumerian days it is unfortunate for you to have this opinion

[Dr_Maul]

But it is indeed a very interesting haplogroup. It must be emerged somewhere between Anatolia, Levante, Caucasus and Iran but it is omnipresent in who Eurasia.

It becomes obvious that only a unique and gifted haplo can have such a position. In the face of invasions by R1 baboons, J2 placed itself in a dominant position amongst their ranks and penetrated it accordingly. Most likely we can see that Steppe invasions historically are a result of R1 slave-soldiers commanded by a J2 elite. Through this event, wherever they went we commanded. And we placed ourselves accordingly.

[Hektor12]

[Dolofonos]

Ancient Spartans were(well still are) J2a. So if it’s from the steppe then they were Indo-European speakers

[Dr_Maul]

Notice that it is located in Manchuria. Most likely because Qing dynasty elite was J2. Yet another proof

[Dr_Maul]

Ancient Spartans were(well still are) J2a. So if it’s from the steppe then they were Indo-European speakers

Concept of Steppe is irrelevant in this scenario. What is in question is the J2 and the non-J2's. Spartan J2 is just an example of how the elite J2 dominance occurs

[chinshen]

How can you tell that Sumerians were mostly J2 Y-DNA?

[Dr_Maul]

How can you tell that Sumerians were mostly J2 Y-DNA?

It was suggested by ZallouaWells 2004 and al-Zaheri 2003. And Sumer is one of the oldest civilizations, following the fact of Civilization = J2 presence at elite level we can determine that they had J2.

[Figaro]

I never realized until now how much J2 was in East Asia/SE Asia