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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Saudi and She (had to google this) I assume are added by the algorithm to account for SWA and EA respectively.
    It is as expected. Dad is from the northern part of the country (high NE and Gedrosia), while my mother is from the southern part(SWA+EA).

    Dodecad K12 gives me this:
    Target: Me
    Distance: 2.1098% / 2.10982651
    42.4 Lezgin
    23.3 Iranian_Mazandaran
    11.5 Georgian_Adjara
    11.3 Assyrian_North
    6.8 Kuwait2
    4.1 Japanese
    0.6 Georgian_Svan

    I am planning to test my parents too. Right now I assume that my dad will be much more northern shifted than me, while my mother will be more southern shifted.
    Ive runned your 2-way and picked out the most interesting ones:

    Distance to: Sterling_Archer
    4.13606264 66.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 33.60% Kurd_Feyli

    4.71645739 74.60% Azerbaijani_Iran + 25.40% Lezgin

    4.76908817 57.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 42.80% Azerbaijani_Iran

    4.78550666 17.00% Nogai + 83.00% Talysh_Azerbaijan

    4.79067068 10.40% Lipka_Tatar + 89.60% Talysh_Azerbaijan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Saudi and She (had to google this) I assume are added by the algorithm to account for SWA and EA respectively.
    It is as expected. Dad is from the northern part of the country (high NE and Gedrosia), while my mother is from the southern part(SWA+EA).

    Dodecad K12 gives me this:
    Target: Me
    Distance: 2.1098% / 2.10982651
    42.4 Lezgin
    23.3 Iranian_Mazandaran
    11.5 Georgian_Adjara
    11.3 Assyrian_North
    6.8 Kuwait2
    4.1 Japanese
    0.6 Georgian_Svan

    I am planning to test my parents too. Right now I assume that my dad will be much more northern shifted than me, while my mother will be more southern shifted.
    Are you a speaker of Baku dialect? I still like Azerbaijani even though it's been years since I briefly studied Eastern languages. I find Azerbaijani better than Turkish (to my taste), however I do admire the Turks' self-confident use of their language, even on this forum it's visible.

    You seem to be a little over 5% Mongoloid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Are you a speaker of Baku dialect? I still like Azerbaijani even though it's been years since I briefly studied Eastern languages. I find Azerbaijani better than Turkish (to my taste), however I do admire the Turks' self-confident use of their language, even on this forum it's visible.

    You seem to be a little over 5% Mongoloid.
    Are you a speaker of Baku dialect?
    I speak standard Azerbaijani, which is spoken in the Absheron peninsula. Baku dialect is now mainly spoken in the old Baku villages like Ramana, Surakhani, etc., otherwise it is rare now.

    You seem to be a little over 5% Mongoloid
    Yeah, a decent percentage. Again, considering the region my mother is from, this is expected.
    I don't have anyone in my family with eastern phenotype tbh, but in my maternal village I have seen people with appearance I usually associated with North West of the country.
    As for my dad, well, he looks rather North European really, so I don't think I have inherited EA from him. But testing him will resolve everything. Now the hard part is to convince him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Yeah, a decent percentage. Again, considering the region my mother is from, this is expected.
    I don't have anyone in my family with eastern phenotype tbh, but in my maternal village I have seen people with appearance I usually associated with North West of the country.
    As for my dad, well, he looks rather North European really, so I don't think I have inherited EA from him. But testing him will resolve everything. Now the hard part is to convince him
    Interesting. Is he passable as a Russian? I don't think he is zero East Eurasian, otherwise that'd mean he is just assimilated and Turkic in name only. I think even North Caucasians and Persians would often score 2-3% EE.

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    Is he passable as a Russian?
    Yeah. Routinely when he was in the military or komandirovka during the olden days.
    When I have received his test I'll post his youth(in order to protect his privacy) photo with his result, if he gives his permission.

    I don't think he is zero East Eurasian
    He most certainly has east Eurasian, maybe even higher than I expect.

    I think even North Caucasians and Persians would often score 2-3% EE.
    Yeah even non-Turkic North Caucasians do score decent EA, especially Vainakhs. I assume that is why Ingush are usually close to north shifted Azerbaijanis.

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    Some Iranians

    Gedrosia 28.24 Pct
    Siberian 1.18 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.32 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 4.18 Pct
    North_European 8.72 Pct
    South_Asian 4.08 Pct
    East_African 1.15 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 12.46 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 39 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.66 Pct

    Distance to: Sahar
    4.14880706 Iranian_Fars
    5.04185482 Yazidi
    5.08646242 Kurd_Feyli
    5.09935290 Kurd_Sorani
    5.71794544 Iranian_Lur
    6.07602666 Kurd_Kurmanji
    6.60955369 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.71705293 Turkmen_Iraq
    6.96693620 Iranian_Kerman
    7.12226790 Azerbaijani_Iran

    Target: Sahar
    Distance: 1.0230% / 1.02301017 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    67.7 Kurd_Feyli
    18.8 Iranian_Fars
    5.2 Kaitag_Dagestan
    3.8 Udmurt
    3.1 Kuwait1
    1.4 Cambodians

    Target: Sahar
    Distance: 2.5666% / 2.56659792 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    54.2 Iranian_Fars
    19.3 Kurd_Feyli
    17.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    8.7 Kurd_Sorani


    Gedrosia 26.17 Pct
    Siberian 2.21 Pct
    Northwest_African 1.33 Pct
    Southeast_Asian 1.68 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 4.76 Pct
    North_European 8.1 Pct
    South_Asian 4.1 Pct
    East_African 0.89 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 14.24 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 36.52 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Ali
    4.52384792 Kurd_Feyli
    5.22000958 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    5.71900341 Iranian_Lur
    5.84542556 Yazidi
    6.04871061 Iranian_Fars
    6.43609354 Iranian_Mazandaran
    6.80775293 Kurd_Sorani
    6.80902342 Kurd_Kurmanji
    7.43216658 Iranian_Kerman
    7.55874328 Zaza

    Target: Ali
    Distance: 1.0916% / 1.09159835 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    52.9 Kurd_Feyli
    21.9 Iranian_Mazandaran
    18.0 Lezgin
    5.4 Iranian_Kerman
    1.8 Ethiopian

    Target: Ali
    Distance: 1.3715% / 1.37153737 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    59.3 Kurd_Feyli
    17.1 Lezgin
    12.8 Iranian_Mazandaran
    10.8 Iranian_Kerman

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    Ahiska Turk from Ardahan (Turkey):


    Gedrosia: 18.84
    Siberian: 0.34
    NW_African: 0.00
    SE_Asian: 0.00
    Atlantic_Med: 7.01
    North_European: 6.72
    South_Asian: 0.00
    East_African: 0.00
    SW_Asian: 11.10
    East_Asian: 0.89
    Caucasus: 55.09
    SSA: 0.00

    Distance to: Ahiska_Ardahan
    3.12884963 Turk_Ahiska
    4.07900723 Hemshin
    4.30541519 Laz
    5.30113195 Georgian_Adjara
    5.69354898 Turk_East_Black_Sea
    5.72937169 Georgian
    6.64445634 Georgian_Imereti
    7.21534476 Armenian_East
    7.36836481 Greek_Pontus
    7.93204892 Georgian_Gurian
    9.04138817 Abkhazian
    9.28927877 Georgian_Mingrelian
    9.92422289 Armenian_West
    10.12747254 Udi
    10.24350038 Georgian_Svan
    10.36270235 Turk_East
    12.68991726 Assyrian_North
    12.78021127 Azeri_Jew
    13.06948354 Assyrian_West
    13.25320716 Ossetian_South
    13.29689813 Assyrian_South
    14.55167344 Zaza
    15.13783670 Adyghe
    15.17100194 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    15.32873119 Ossetian

    Target: Ahiska_Ardahan
    Distance: 1.8892% / 1.88920954 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    49.9 Turk_Ahiska
    38.2 Hemshin
    9.9 Georgian
    2.0 Georgian_Adjara

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    New Chechens

    Gedrosia 23.11 Pct
    Siberian 1.83 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.78 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 5.91 Pct
    North_European 19.27 Pct
    South_Asian 1.12 Pct
    East_African 0.53 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 3.17 Pct
    East_Asian 0.43 Pct
    Caucasus 43.84 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Muhammad
    2.66580194 Ingush
    2.79758825 Chechen
    5.51023593 Kumyk
    6.20137888 Adyghe
    6.60764709 Karachay
    6.77208240 Balkar
    7.14077027 Ossetian
    7.35085709 Circassian
    7.55522336 Abazin
    7.61565493 Kabardin

    Target: Muhammad
    Distance: 0.9630% / 0.96300918 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    39.8 Chechen
    34.0 Kubachi_Dagestan
    17.7 Georgian_Adjara
    5.3 Ingush
    3.2 Balkan_Gypsy

    Target: Muhammad
    Distance: 2.0704% / 2.07039376 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    52.8 Ingush
    47.2 Chechen


    Gedrosia 23.83 Pct
    Siberian 3.35 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.88 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 5.42 Pct
    North_European 20.95 Pct
    South_Asian 0.45 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 4.73 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 40.38 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Ramzan
    3.48414982 Chechen
    4.68718466 Kumyk
    5.23330679 Lezgin
    5.39448793 Ingush
    5.69834186 Lak
    7.10063377 Kubachi_Dagestan
    7.47097718 Avar
    7.68903115 Tabasaran
    7.79540891 Kaitag_Dagestan
    8.20821540 Kabardin

    Target: Ramzan
    Distance: 1.2499% / 1.24990868 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    58.3 Chechen
    37.8 Lezgin
    2.3 Jordanian_Christian
    1.1 Dolgan
    0.5 Saudi

    Target: Ramzan
    Distance: 1.6996% / 1.69963877 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    50.6 Chechen
    33.6 Lezgin
    8.2 Kumyk
    7.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

    Target: Ramzan
    Distance: 1.9480% / 1.94803811 | ADC: 1x RC
    62.7 Chechen
    37.3 Lezgin

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    +9% East Eurasian Iranian Azeri:


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    Gedrosia: 21.12
    Siberian: 3.24
    NW_African: 0.64
    SE_Asian: 1.51
    Atlantic_Med: 7.20
    North_European: 9.34
    South_Asian: 1.05
    East_African: 0.25
    SW_Asian: 12.65
    East_Asian: 4.35
    Caucasus: 38.47
    SSA: 0.17

    Distance to: iranazeri
    2.90411777 Azerbaijani
    3.06610502 Azerbaijani_Iran
    3.79429835 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    5.32353266 Turk_Southeast
    6.46838465 Kurd_Kurmanji
    7.03152899 Zaza
    7.35144204 Turkmen_Iraq
    7.40817791 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    7.55966269 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.60096047 Kurd_Adygea
    7.69655767 Turk_South
    7.77600797 Turk_Central_East
    7.80088457 Yazidi
    7.92150869 Kurd_Sorani
    8.64535714 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    9.19213251 Udi
    9.47443930 Turk_East
    9.51105672 Turk_Central_West
    9.88419951 Kurd_Feyli
    10.26588525 Iranian_Lur
    10.52613414 Iranian_Fars
    11.45592423 Iraqi_Baghdad
    11.55734831 Turk_Southwest
    11.69109490 Turk_West_BlackSea
    11.97161226 Iranian_Khorasan

    Target: iranazeri
    Distance: 1.4330% / 1.43297529 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    67.3 Azerbaijani_Iran
    20.1 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    6.3 Balkar
    3.9 Kuwait2
    2.0 Hezhen
    0.4 Han_central


    Distance to: iranazeri
    2.36758751 12.40% Nogai_Astrakhan + 87.60% Zaza
    2.42910471 13.00% Karakalpak + 87.00% Zaza
    2.47413053 13.60% Nogai_Stavropol + 86.40% Zaza
    2.54423408 11.40% Kazakh + 88.60% Zaza
    2.73627703 11.20% Kyrgyz_Pamir + 88.80% Zaza
    2.74320855 10.80% Kyrgyz + 89.20% Zaza
    2.80860575 74.80% Kurd_Sorani + 25.20% Nogai
    2.90418956 11.80% Tatar_Siberia + 88.20% Zaza
    2.92578636 10.60% Tubalar + 89.40% Zaza
    2.93938631 9.80% Khakass + 90.20% Zaza
    2.94710180 79.20% Kurd_Kurmanji + 20.80% Nogai
    2.95466249 15.60% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 84.40% Zaza
    2.96163249 10.40% Altaian_Chelkan + 89.60% Zaza
    2.98283478 16.20% Uzbeki + 83.80% Zaza
    3.02510623 9.00% Kalmyk + 91.00% Zaza
    3.02612509 8.60% Mongol_Khalkh + 91.40% Zaza
    3.03306132 10.00% Shor + 90.00% Zaza
    3.04399327 13.20% Uyghur + 86.80% Zaza
    3.05953660 43.00% Kurd_Feyli + 57.00% Turk_South
    3.06315341 9.60% Altaian_Telengit + 90.40% Zaza
    3.07159146 16.20% Turkmen_Afghanistan + 83.80% Zaza
    3.08243182 8.80% Mongol_Uuld + 91.20% Zaza
    3.08637096 9.40% Altaian_Kizhi + 90.60% Zaza
    3.09316857 32.40% Iranian_Mazandaran + 67.60% Turk_South
    3.11514846 76.80% Turkmen_Iraq + 23.20% Nogai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    +9% East Eurasian Iranian Azeri:


    woman on the right:
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    Gedrosia: 21.12
    Siberian: 3.24
    NW_African: 0.64
    SE_Asian: 1.51
    Atlantic_Med: 7.20
    North_European: 9.34
    South_Asian: 1.05
    East_African: 0.25
    SW_Asian: 12.65
    East_Asian: 4.35
    Caucasus: 38.47
    SSA: 0.17

    Distance to: iranazeri
    2.90411777 Azerbaijani
    3.06610502 Azerbaijani_Iran
    3.79429835 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    5.32353266 Turk_Southeast
    6.46838465 Kurd_Kurmanji
    7.03152899 Zaza
    7.35144204 Turkmen_Iraq
    7.40817791 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    7.55966269 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.60096047 Kurd_Adygea
    7.69655767 Turk_South
    7.77600797 Turk_Central_East
    7.80088457 Yazidi
    7.92150869 Kurd_Sorani
    8.64535714 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    9.19213251 Udi
    9.47443930 Turk_East
    9.51105672 Turk_Central_West
    9.88419951 Kurd_Feyli
    10.26588525 Iranian_Lur
    10.52613414 Iranian_Fars
    11.45592423 Iraqi_Baghdad
    11.55734831 Turk_Southwest
    11.69109490 Turk_West_BlackSea
    11.97161226 Iranian_Khorasan

    Target: iranazeri
    Distance: 1.4330% / 1.43297529 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    67.3 Azerbaijani_Iran
    20.1 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    6.3 Balkar
    3.9 Kuwait2
    2.0 Hezhen
    0.4 Han_central


    Distance to: iranazeri
    2.36758751 12.40% Nogai_Astrakhan + 87.60% Zaza
    2.42910471 13.00% Karakalpak + 87.00% Zaza
    2.47413053 13.60% Nogai_Stavropol + 86.40% Zaza
    2.54423408 11.40% Kazakh + 88.60% Zaza
    2.73627703 11.20% Kyrgyz_Pamir + 88.80% Zaza
    2.74320855 10.80% Kyrgyz + 89.20% Zaza
    2.80860575 74.80% Kurd_Sorani + 25.20% Nogai
    2.90418956 11.80% Tatar_Siberia + 88.20% Zaza
    2.92578636 10.60% Tubalar + 89.40% Zaza
    2.93938631 9.80% Khakass + 90.20% Zaza
    2.94710180 79.20% Kurd_Kurmanji + 20.80% Nogai
    2.95466249 15.60% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 84.40% Zaza
    2.96163249 10.40% Altaian_Chelkan + 89.60% Zaza
    2.98283478 16.20% Uzbeki + 83.80% Zaza
    3.02510623 9.00% Kalmyk + 91.00% Zaza
    3.02612509 8.60% Mongol_Khalkh + 91.40% Zaza
    3.03306132 10.00% Shor + 90.00% Zaza
    3.04399327 13.20% Uyghur + 86.80% Zaza
    3.05953660 43.00% Kurd_Feyli + 57.00% Turk_South
    3.06315341 9.60% Altaian_Telengit + 90.40% Zaza
    3.07159146 16.20% Turkmen_Afghanistan + 83.80% Zaza
    3.08243182 8.80% Mongol_Uuld + 91.20% Zaza
    3.08637096 9.40% Altaian_Kizhi + 90.60% Zaza
    3.09316857 32.40% Iranian_Mazandaran + 67.60% Turk_South
    3.11514846 76.80% Turkmen_Iraq + 23.20% Nogai
    She can pass in southern Ankara and Northern Aksaray very easily!!! i have similar looking relatives

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