J2 and the foundation of Human Civilization

[Figaro]

R1 initiated the Late Bronze Age Collapse. Sea Peoples and other sons of Dagon. Branches became associated with the steppes slightly later, as the children of Minos’ brothers became wanderers and nomads after banishment from Crete.

Even Egypt fell by our hand.

[Altaylı]

Turkey is very diverse in terms of haplogroups, it can be almost anything in your case. Maybe your specific tribe is less diverse though, I don't know.
By the way, why do you like Tamerlane? Wasn't he against the Ottomans? He killed millions of people.

I like Tamerlane because he was good strategist
Ye he did a battle with ottomans but anatolian Turkmens changed side and joined Timurid in ankara battle (i am an anatolian Turkmen too) also Timur didn't act badly against to Ottomans and Ottoman Sultans they did just war Timurid didn't kill Turks in anatolia probably just killed native anatolian people

Also i am not sure about this but maybe my tribe was dulkadirid in that era
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beylik_of_Dulkadir
I like both Ottoman and Timurid

[Dr_Maul]

They were whites. The Yamnaya were born in Russia, even the name comes from Russian (yama means pit). How could they have looked J2 even though they're the ancestors of most Europeans?

Both of us know that Yamnaya had Black hair and brown eyes. EHG R1 Barbarians looked foreign to them (thats why they conquered them) compared to their J2 compatriots.

[Leto]

Both of us know that Yamnaya had Black hair and brown eyes. EHG R1 Barbarians looked foreign to them (thats why they conquered them) compared to their J2 compatriots.

Okay, I consider only R1a cultures to be muh people, to be honest.

How do you view the haplogroup struggle in Iran? Our diaspora in Iran is still not exactly small.

[Dr_Maul]

Okay, I consider only R1a cultures to be muh people, to be honest.

How do you view the haplogroup struggle in Iran? Our diaspora in Iran is still not exactly small.

The presence of R1a+R1b has proved to be quite disastrous for Iran, considering their numbers (1/3 in total?) but do not underestimate J2 in those lands either.

[Altaylı]

I have a question how EHG looked like? some people say they looked asiatic influenced but i am not sure

[reboun]

I have a question how EHG looked like? some people say they looked asiatic influenced but i am not sure

I am not sure but probably like Turanid/Uralid maybe?

[Dr_Maul]

I have a question how EHG looked like? some people say they looked asiatic influenced but i am not sure

They looked mixed of Asian and European, but they were Barbarians overall. Good thing that we J2's conquered the steppe from them

[Rethel]

R1 initiated the Late Bronze Age Collapse. (...)
Even Egypt fell by our hand.

And this was the first on a large scale transindoeuropean intercontinental war,
because the Middle Eastern at that time, was basically ruled by Indoeuropeans.
Maybe Sea Peoples punished imperial IEs for being too far deindoeuropeanized

We also are blended with prior Japheth-lineages.

Wrong. We ARE Japhethites.

[Hektor12]

R1 is hated by just about everyone who is not R1 himself. We have plenty of fucks here who are like that (not naming any names). Although I don't want to have anything in common with certain proponents of R1 either. It's a motherfucking madhouse!

Lul, its interesting to see an autosomal warrior like you in y-dna wars.