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    Not sure about this one, the kit is on someone else's account (not West Asian) and it doesn't appear in the search. There are some strange African scores here.

    Gedrosia 23.25 Pct
    Siberian 1.58 Pct
    Northwest_African 1.54 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 7.75 Pct
    North_European 7.41 Pct
    South_Asian 5.36 Pct
    East_African 1.13 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 13.05 Pct
    East_Asian 2.75 Pct
    Caucasus 36.18 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: MH
    4.54311567 Azerbaijani_Iran
    5.14888337 Kurd_Sorani
    5.26883289 Azerbaijani
    5.28933833 Yazidi_Kurd
    5.29701803 Turkmen_Iraq
    5.38504410 Kurd_Kurmanji
    5.54786445 Iranian_Fars
    6.71846709 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    7.09726708 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    7.22362098 Zaza_Kurd

    Target: MH
    Distance: 0.9200% / 0.91999879 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    46.9 Azerbaijani
    38.6 Iranian_Fars
    5.8 Turk_Southeast
    3.8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
    3.6 Turkmen_Iraq
    1.3 Algerian

    Target: MH
    Distance: 1.2589% / 1.25890390 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    41.0 Iranian_Fars
    38.1 Azerbaijani
    11.2 Turkmen_Iraq
    5.4 Balkan_Gypsy
    4.3 Azerbaijani_Iran


    Someone from Turkey, might be a Turkified Kartvelian

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    Gedrosia 20.18 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 2.58 Pct
    North_European 7.63 Pct
    South_Asian 1.09 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 7.63 Pct
    East_Asian 1.13 Pct
    Caucasus 59.77 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: y
    3.23153214 Georgian_Imereti
    4.14097815 Georgian_Mingrelian
    4.31732556 Georgian
    4.55589728 Georgian_Gurian
    5.49216715 Georgian_Svan
    6.59210133 Georgian_Adjara
    7.32430884 Abkhazian
    8.71624919 Laz
    8.74515294 Turk_Ahiska
    9.40298357 Hemshin

    Target: y
    Distance: 2.7748% / 2.77484558
    83.3 Georgian_Mingrelian
    7.1 Iranian_Mazandaran
    4.9 Georgian_Adjara
    2.7 Georgian_Imereti
    2.0 Kuwait2

    Target: y
    Distance: 2.9113% / 2.91126053 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    49.1 Georgian_Imereti
    44.2 Georgian_Mingrelian
    6.7 Iranian_Mazandaran

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    Apparently someone who is half Pamiri half Russian. May as well be an adoptee

    Gedrosia 18.91 Pct
    Siberian 3.95 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.66 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 13.22 Pct
    North_European 39.59 Pct
    South_Asian 5.99 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 1.59 Pct
    East_Asian 1.52 Pct
    Caucasus 14.58 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Target: Kara
    Distance: 1.3769% / 1.37694860 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    51.3 Pamiri_Rushan
    40.4 Russian_Oryol
    8.3 Tatar_Mishar

    Distance to: Kara
    1.00926880 51.60% Pamiri_Shughnan + 48.40% Russian_Ryazan
    1.19455316 52.60% Pamiri_Shughnan + 47.40% Russian_Oryol
    1.20426405 52.40% Pamiri_Rushan + 47.60% Russian_Ryazan
    1.34054084 45.00% Belorussian + 55.00% Pamiri_Shughnan
    1.36475384 54.80% Pamiri_Shughnan + 45.20% Russian_Smolensk
    1.40257970 44.40% Belarus_Minsk + 55.60% Pamiri_Shughnan
    1.45815568 52.80% Pamiri_Shughnan + 47.20% Russian_Kursk
    1.47757998 53.80% Pamiri_Shughnan + 46.20% Russian_Voronezh
    1.55826866 43.80% Belarus_Minsk + 56.20% Pamiri_Rushan
    1.58871588 49.20% Pamiri_Ishkashim + 50.80% Russian_Oryol

    Too bad I don't have a photo of this female.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    Some guy from Iran which I knew (not from this forum), give me those averages based on Gedmatch kits. Check and decide if they shoudl be added to official Dodecad?

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    Alevi(Zaza&Kurmanji)_Dersim,23.89,1.05,0.95,0.25,8.36,8.25,2.5,0.14,13.06,0.66,40.84,0.05
    Alevi_Kurmanji_CEAnatolia,23.56,1.34,0.79,0.4,9.08,8.44,2.75,0.29,12.58,0.98,39.46,0.18
    Armenian_Arapgir,17.7,0.41,0.35,0,12.46,5.34,1.3,0,14.73,0,47.65,0.08
    Iran_Gilaki,33.46,0.26,0.44,0,2.36,4.49,3.64,0.34,11.65,0.44,42.88,0
    Persian_Bushehr,27.01,0.47,1.69,0,3.8,8.32,3.15,1.09,15.03,0.2,36.17,0
    Persian_Beiram,28.43,0.76,0.84,0,5.67,8.57,6.97,1.63,12.88,0,33.42,0.83
    Persian_Esfahan,27.40 ,0.74,0,0.88,5.64,7.21,5.63,0.39,12.64,0,39.48,0
    Persian_Khuzestan,27.65,0.68,0.29,0.52,4.76,7.1,5.55,0.54,13.75,0.33,36.56,2.23
    Persian_Shiraz,27.82,0.9,2.6,0,3.98,5.92,6.24,0.45,14.88,0.06,37.1,0
    Persian_Yazd,29.78,0.68,0.39,0,6.4,9.25,6.55,0.57,11.78,0,34.56,0.1
    I crunched some numbers when i saw how familiar the Khuzestan result looked and found the khuzestan is my ancestryDNA kit and my aunts kit averaged together. idk how accurate that makes it. I hope he didn't just average together 2 people from the same family for every result that would skew the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halgurd View Post
    I score 3% on this calculator, how would that make me 30%-50% Anatolian Turk?
    Of course you are not 50% Anatolian Turk, you did clearly understand that 3% east eurasian can be 30% Turkish and 5% can be 50% Turkish. Since you are an Iraqi Kurd it could be you have a distant Iraqi Turkmen ancestor which doesn’t make you Turkish or whatever. This was about Alevi so therefore about Turkey Kurds, not about Iraqi Kurds. Alevism emerged from Turkish sectarian groups as an important part of their Turkish identity, so it is understandable that some Alevi Kurds can have distant Turkish ancestry, but still they are Kurds and genetically clustering as a Kurdish group. They aren’t Turks obviously. On the other hand many Alevi Kurds are heavily Armenian shifted, which also does not mean they are Armenians, everyone who is considering him or herself as Kurd is a Kurd.

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    Not sure if he belongs in this thread but here is a Buryat sample. About 88% East Eurasian/Mongoloid

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    Gedrosia 3.79 Pct
    Siberian 42.92 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.36 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 0.07 Pct
    North_European 5 Pct
    South_Asian 1.42 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian -
    East_Asian 44.34 Pct
    Caucasus 2.1 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: vb
    2.88470102 Buryat
    5.03125233 Khamnigan
    9.77529028 Kalmyk
    10.27432236 Mongol_Uuld
    10.74429616 Negidal
    10.98430699 Oroqen
    12.17867398 Nanai
    12.39650354 Mongol_Khalkh
    12.89053141 Tuvan
    14.63152760 Altaian_Telengit

    Target: vb
    Distance: 1.7540% / 1.75396212 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.0 Buryat
    26.8 Negidal
    11.2 Shor
    7.0 Nivh

    Target: vb
    Distance: 2.1967% / 2.19669781 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    90.1 Buryat
    7.4 Nivh
    2.5 Negidal

    I believe the Buryats are basically a Mongol tribe that migrated northwards and mixed with some local tribes up there.

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    @Leto do you have half Russian or half Iranian + half Altaian or half Kirgiz samples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    @Leto do you have half Russian or half Iranian + half Altaian or half Kirgiz samples?
    Half Iranian probably not. I've seen a few half Kazakh half Russian samples. And half Kyrgyz too. I think I might've posted them in the previous threads. I also have a family where the wife is half Kalmyk and their son is quarter Kalmyk. Why? You think they look proto-Turkic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Half Iranian probably not. I've seen a few half Kazakh half Russian samples. And half Kyrgyz too. I think I might've posted them in the previous threads. I also have a family where the wife is half Kalmyk and their son is quarter Kalmyk. Why? You think they look proto-Turkic?
    Haha no i am quite interesting in to this mixed individuals. I already know this Russian-Kalmyk family which you once posted. But I am not sure about the others so i think i need to look at the old threads. Half Iranian half Altaian for instance would be like a Uzbek or Uyghur but i doubt it would look like a Proto-Turkic sample. Sergei Shoigu is an interesting mix (Russian mother and Tuvan father), although he is half Russian he looks like an Uzbek for me. But he would be too European comparing to early Turkics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    Haha no i am quite interesting in to this mixed individuals. I already know this Russian-Kalmyk family which you once posted. But I am not sure about the others so i think i need to look at the old threads. Half Iranian half Altaian for instance would be like a Uzbek or Uyghur but i doubt it would look like a Proto-Turkic sample. Sergei Shoigu is an interesting mix (Russian mother and Tuvan father), although he is half Russian he looks like an Uzbek for me. But he would be too European comparing to early Turkics.
    Okay.
    Yep, Sergey Shoigu is about 42-44% Mongoloid, his mother was from Oryol oblast, very low Mong, 2-3%. And Tuvans are in the low 80s, I believe. But even his daughters look quite Mongoloid, I don't know much about his wife, barely any photos of her on the internet. Presumably Russian.

    I think a Dagestani-Kalmyk mix would be something similar to Central Asians. There are numerous resettled Dargins in Kalmykia, so that kind of mix probably exists somewhere out there. The current head of Kalmykia is half Kalmyk half Tatar himself, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Okay.
    Yep, Sergey Shoigu is about 42-44% Mongoloid, his mother was from Oryol oblast, very low Mong, 2-3%. And Tuvans are in the low 80s, I believe . But even his daughters look quite Mongoloid, I don't know much about his wife, barely any photos of her on the internet. Presumably Russian.

    I think a Dagestani-Kalmyk mix would be something similar to Central Asians. There are numerous resettled Dargins in Kalmykia, so that kind of mix probably exists somewhere out there. The current head of Kalmykia is half Kalmyk half Tatar himself, I believe.
    So Is Sergey Shoigu real Turk????
    Actually Sergey Shoigu doesn't look mongoloid
    He looks normal eurasian
    He reminds me Nasser Hejazi he is ethnic Iranian Azerbaijan Turk
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