Bosniak Gedmatch results

[vbnetkhio]

Cool! Should old average stay?

yes, to represent the other regions.

And Sandžak one, you added new samples to it?

That's Mingle's domain, he has more samples than me.

[Varda]

Probably some medieval Slavonians stayed under the Ottomans and converted on islam, but small number. According to Ottoman defters Slavonia was almost empty when Ottomans come.
During the 16th century under the Ottoman rule new population from Bosnia, Herzegovina, Raška etc. arrived to Slavonia. Many of that settlers converted to islam.
Look at your paternal ancestors. They settled to Slavonia in 16th century from Popovo Polje in Herzegovina as Ottoman martolos, converted on islam in Slavonia, and in late 17th century they escaped to Dubica when Austrians took Slavonia.

I have seen document about Serbs who settled in eastern Slavonia in 16th century from Polimlje (Raška). They are older layer of Serbian population in region. Other Serbs there come from Serbia in 1690 with partiarch Arsenije Čarnojević, or later in 18th and 19th century from various regions.
For Serbs from western Slavonia is considered they are mostly descendants of settlers from Bosnia in 16th century.

[Jana]

I have seen document about Serbs who settled in eastern Slavonia in 16th century from Polimlje (Raška). They are older layer of Serbian population in region. Other Serbs there come from Serbia in 1690 with partiarch Arsenije Čarnojević, or later in 18th and 19th century from various regions.
For Serbs from western Slavonia is considered they are mostly descendants of settlers from Bosnia in 16th century.

Interesting, I didn't know that, but I saw some maps of Slavo-Serbia in Slavonia (and maybe part of south Hungary, don't remember anymore), maybe those are from 16th century.

[Jana]

yes, to represent the other regions.

That's Mingle's domain, he has more samples than me.

Makes sense, thanks.

Here are Vlatko Vuković results, they fit very well with new average you made.

Spoiler!

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.38
2 North_Atlantic 24.45
3 West_Med 15.36
4 East_Med 11.97
5 West_Asian 8.24
6 Red_Sea 2.1
7 Siberian 1.61
8 Amerindian 0.89

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.03
2 Croatian 3.84
3 Hungarian 8.25
4 Serbian 8.35
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.19
6 Ukrainian 10.35
7 South_Polish 10.49
8 Romanian 11.41
9 Austrian 12.7
10 East_German 12.82
11 Bulgarian 13.11
12 Southwest_Russian 13.47
13 Polish 13.63
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.9
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.36
16 Estonian_Polish 15.77
17 Belorussian 16.54
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.46
19 Erzya 18.86
20 Tatar 19.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.8% Ukrainian + 26.2% Central_Greek @ 1.78
2 68.1% Ukrainian + 31.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.83
3 74.6% Ukrainian + 25.4% East_Sicilian @ 1.86
4 76.5% Ukrainian + 23.5% South_Italian @ 1.89
5 56% Ukrainian + 44% Bulgarian @ 1.95
6 59.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40.9% Bulgarian @ 2.03
7 54.7% Bulgarian + 45.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.06
8 70.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 29.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.12
9 79% Ukrainian + 21% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.2
10 61.7% Bulgarian + 38.3% Lithuanian @ 2.29
11 54% Bulgarian + 46% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.29
12 79.2% Ukrainian + 20.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.31
13 58.3% Romanian + 41.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.34
14 76.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23.6% Central_Greek @ 2.34
15 78.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 21.1% South_Italian @ 2.36
16 79.1% Ukrainian + 20.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.39
17 81.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 18.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.4
18 81.1% Ukrainian + 18.9% Cyprian @ 2.42
19 52.6% Ukrainian + 47.4% Romanian @ 2.42
20 77.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.8% East_Sicilian @ 2.44

Distance to: Vlatko_Vuković

2.33908102 Moldova_North
2.49695815 Bosniak_Bosnia
2.97931200 Croat_East
3.88749277 Bosniak
4.55938592 Croat
4.62691042 Croat_South
4.94420873 Ukrainian_Carpathian
5.27978219 Moldova_Centre
5.38522980 Moldova_average
5.81515262 Serb_north
5.90623399 Hungarian_Alföld
6.01506442 Croat_West
6.31660510 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.38607078 Croat_North
7.06160039 Csángó-Ceangău
7.09909149 Hungarian_Northern
7.12096201 Hungarian
7.25647986 Serb
7.46533321 Serb_central
7.98961826 Ukrainian_Galicia
7.99046932 Slovenian
8.00566674 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.03950869 Székely
8.08660003 Hungarian_Transylvania_Szekely
8.14520104 Moldova_Ukrainian

[Varda]

Interesting, I didn't know that, but I saw some maps of Slavo-Serbia in Slavonia (and maybe part of south Hungary, don't remember anymore), maybe those are from 16th century.

Among present day Serbs from eastern Slavonia descendants of settlers in 16th century are in minority. Most of them came later, from late 17th to the late 19th century. In late 19th century some Serbs from Ozren and Majevica moved to eastern Slavonia, for example in that migration came ancestors of Siniša Mahailović. After WW2 Serbs from Lika colonized Slavonia, not big number.
It seems on average Serbs are present for the longer period in western Slavonia than in eastern Slavonia.

[Leto]

Vlatko is ca. 75% Nordo-Slavic.

[Dušan]

Vlatko is ca. 75% Nordo-Slavic.

Did you get orgasm on his northernes?

Muslim remains Muslim, even with 100% "Nordo-Slavic".

[Jana]

Among present day Serbs from eastern Slavonia descendants of settlers in 16th century are in minority. Most of them came later, from late 17th to the late 19th century. In late 19th century some Serbs from Ozren and Majevica moved to eastern Slavonia, for example in that migration came ancestors of Siniša Mahailović. After WW2 Serbs from Lika colonized Slavonia, not big number.
It seems on average Serbs are present for the longer period in western Slavonia than in eastern Slavonia.

Probably because eastern Slavonia was a swamp in medieval and almost unpopulated. Lot of disease and malaria.
Only decently populated part of modern day Slavonia before Ottomans was western, Požega valley (also known as golden valley by Romans because it has good conditions to live)

Also in medieval what was known as Slavonia (totorszag in Hungarian) was mostly NW and central Croatia (Zagreb, Križevci, Sisak etc)

[Varda]

Probably because eastern Slavonia was a swamp in medieval and almost unpopulated. Lot of disease and malaria.
Only decently populated part of modern day Slavonia before Ottomans was western, Požega valley (also known as golden valley by Romans because it has good conditions to live)

Also in medieval what was known as Slavonia (totorszag in Hungarian) was mostly NW and central Croatia (Zagreb, Križevci, Sisak etc)

Present day populations of eastern Slavonia of all ethnicities mostly match with populations of Vojvodina by period when they settled in both regions. Western Slavonia is different story.

[Leto]

Did you get orgasm on his northernes?

Muslim remains Muslim, even with 100% "Nordo-Slavic".

They are just converted fucks, so that doesn't matter. I mean I'm very anti-Islam myself but I don't want it to cloud my judgement when it's irrelevant. It's not like Vlatko is an ISIS fighter or anything like that. I don't even know if he believes in God in the first place.