Macedonian Gedmatch kits - 28

[Leto]

The Macedonian average on dodecad is probably outdated.

Why would it be? North Macedonia is to the WEST of Bulgaria, so it's only natural they're most similar to Western BG than the rest of said country. I don't believe you always need a fuck ton of sample to get an idea of a country's genetic profile. If Johnny is unwilling to raise a fucking finger to update that average, I don't give a rat's ass 'cause it's good enough for me. Anyway I trust Kaspias more than those whose judgement is severely clouded by politics.

[CommonSense]

Why would it be? North Macedonia is to the WEST of Bulgaria, so it's only natural they're most similar to Western BG than the rest of said country. I don't believe you always need a fuck ton of sample to get an idea of a country's genetic profile. If Johnny is unwilling to raise a fucking finger to update that average, I don't give a rat's ass 'cause it's good enough for me. Anyway I trust Kaspias more than those whose judgement is severely clouded by politics.

You think his kits are unrepresentative? I've not seen many Macedonians who score like typical Bulgarians from the west of the country. And certainly none who are similar to Montenegrins of any kind. They're either like eastern Bulgarians or like Aromanians and Ghegs.

[Leto]

You think his kits are unrepresentative? I've not seen many Macedonians who score like typical Bulgarians from the west of the country. And certainly none who are similar to Montenegrins of any kind. They're either like eastern Bulgarians or like Aromanians and Ghegs.

I'm not saying his kits are unrepresentative. But Dodecad may be simply different from Eurogenes.

[JohnnyP]

I'm not saying his kits are unrepresentative. But Dodecad may be simply different from Eurogenes.

These references from all calculators except K13 are wrong ... really wrong, nothing like Macedonian averages or kits, also K15 it's not updated, my averages are from more than 250 Kits, and besides that nothing like these references even averages are not like that, even these are Academic samples from a study I know, they are Skopje samples and most of them are Macedo-Serbs, even 50% of them have Serbian surnames.

So gedmatch references of Macedonians are wrong, I can bet for many more ethnicities are wrong, but anyway I'm here to correct it, bro? Not even one thank?
Cheers!

[JohnnyP]

can you provide the kit numbers for the Tetovo guys?

Yes I can ,

XS4668810
T655998
T491975
T588417
T251028
WX2259700
XY9343009
A154390
BW1528752
A584834
A373748
JT5955745

[Leto]

These references from all calculators except K13 are wrong ... really wrong, nothing like Macedonian averages or kits, also K15 it's not updated, my averages are from more than 250 Kits, and besides that nothing like these references even averages are not like that, even these are Academic samples from a study I know, they are Skopje samples and most of them are Macedo-Serbs, even 50% of them have Serbian surnames.

So gedmatch references of Macedonians are wrong, I can bet for many more ethnicities are wrong, but anyway I'm here to correct it, bro? Not even one thank?
Cheers!

If you can, please run some of the best Macedonian kits through Dodecad K12b. That'd be appreciated very much.

[Varda]

You are on the wrong page for trolling bra, but anyways ;

Distance to:	Macedonian
2.97756612	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
3.82272154	Albanian_Gheg
4.33544692	Bulgaria_Southcentral
4.59084959	Bulgaria_Northeastern
4.72217111	Albanian
4.74191944	Bulgaria_average
4.81370959	Torbesh_average
4.81589036	Bulgaria_Southwestern
4.82344275	Bulgaria_Southeastern
5.14797047	Bosniak_Sandzak

Distance to:	Macedonian_Central&South
2.30443052	Albanian_Gheg
2.51561126	Vlach(Aromanian)_average
3.13277832	Albanian
3.33805332	Torbesh_average
4.25853555	Greek_Thessaly
5.07420930	Albanian_Tosk
5.19973076	Bulgaria_Southeastern
5.20703370	Greek_Central_Macedonia
5.27357564	Greek_Northeast
5.33437906	Greek_Eastern-Macedonia

Eastern Macedonians
Target: East_avg
Distance: 1.1091% / 1.10913248 | ADC: 0.5x RC
42.5 Bosniak_Sandzak
36.1 Albanian_Gheg
21.4 Italian_Friuli_VG

I think medieval Slavic speaking Macedonians were northern shifted than modern ones because they are mixed with Aromanians in Ottoman time and later.

[JohnnyP]

I think medieval Slavic speaking Macedonians were northern shifted than modern ones because they are mixed with Aromanians in Ottoman time and later.

I think no, the fact that Albanians,Macedonians and Aromanians in past lived in one kingdom called Macedonia while northern borders were next to Skopje , so without Skopje and Kumanovo , that's reason why Central ,West , Southwest,Southeast Macedonians are similar/same to Ghegs and Aromanians not because later they were mixed with them, so Macedonians from regions where never lived Aromanians or Ghegs have those type of results, Skopje and Kumanovo have high Serbian influence, Kumanovo even more, 4th person in Kumanovo is mixed with Serb.
I said once I will say again Aromanians are Macedonians same with Albanians, most of them.Cheers!

[Varda]

I think no, the fact that Albanians,Macedonians and Aromanians in past lived in one kingdom called Macedonia whise northern borders were next to Skopje , so without Skopje and Kumanovo , that's reason why Central ,West , Southwest,Southeast Macedonians are similar/same to Ghegs and Aromanians not because later they were mixed with them, so Macedonians from regions where never lived Aromanians or Ghegs have those type of results, Skopje and Kumanovo have high Serbian influence, Kumanovo even more, 4th person in Kumanovo is mixed with Serb.
I said once I will say again Aromanians are Macedonians same with Albanians, most of them.Cheers!

Albanians in Macedonia are migrants in Ottoman time, they are Muslims and because of religion mixing with Orthodox Slavic speaking Macedonians was impossible.
Same goes for Aromanians. They settled in N. Macedonia from Epirus and Thessaly in Ottoman time. For example Aromanians of Kruševo came from Epirius (mostly from Samarina) in period 1756-1903.
Vlachs who lived in Macedonia since middle age are Megleno-Vlachs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megleno-Romanians
Mijaks are created as mix of Slavs who arrived in western Macedonian from Albania in Ottoman time and Aromanian migrants from Epirus also in Ottoman time.

[Varda]

Albanians in Macedonia are migrants in Ottoman time, they are Muslims and because of religion mixing with Orthodox Slavic speaking Macedonians was impossible.
Same goes for Aromanians. They settled in N. Macedonia from Epirus and Thessaly in Ottoman time. For example Aromanians of Kruševo came from Epirius (mostly from Samarina) in period 1756-1903.
Vlachs who lived in Macedonia since middle age are Megleno-Vlachs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megleno-Romanians
Mijaks are created as mix of Slavs who arrived in western Macedonian from Albania in Ottoman time and Aromanian migrants from Epirus also in Ottoman time.

Kruševo is a copy of Samarina. Altitude of Kruševo is 1350 m and of Samarina is 1450 m, architecture is very similar.