Macedonian Gedmatch kits - 28

[JohnnyP]

Calculator	Region	North Atlantic	Baltic	West Med	West Asian	East Med	Red Sea	South Asian	East Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast African	Sub-Saharan
Eurogenes K13	Vardar Region	23.4	17.66	22.46	10.96	21.79	0.61	0	0	1.28	1.39	0.45	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Vardar Region	24.95	18.23	16.98	11.13	23.42	2.32	0.24	0.65	0.42	1.29	0	0.3	0.05
Eurogenes K13	Vardar Region	26.15	19.03	19.35	11.39	21.87	0.75	0	0.19	0	1.04	0.22	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Vardar Region	23.08	19.92	20.01	8.89	21.14	3.89	0.53	0	1.03	0	1.51	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Vardar Region	20.02	19.6	24.44	11.52	20.51	1.1	0.79	0	1.1	0.91	0	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Vardar Region	24.32	19.78	19.27	11.46	21.06	2.55	0.31	0	0	0	1.25	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Vardar Region	21.4	19.31	21.83	13.53	18.74	3.36	0	0.59	0	0.93	0.31	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Vardar Region	24.57	20.39	23.71	11.77	15.85	2.44	1.27	0	0	0	0	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Vardar Region	24.31	20.31	21.45	12.17	19.52	0.53	0	0.46	0.85	0	0	0.36	0
Eurogenes K13	Vardar Region	25.74	19.17	18.22	9.22	23.84	1.97	0	1.84	0	0	0	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Vardar Region	24.87	18.4	18.76	13.55	20.15	2.56	0	1.07	0.17	0	0.48	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Vardar Region	24.27	18.19	21.47	12.65	20.38	2.18	0	0	0.17	0.6	0	0	0.09
	Vardar Region Average	23.92	19.17	20.66	11.52	20.69	2.02	0.26	0.40	0.42	0.51	0.35	0.06	0.01
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	19.27	20.58	18.45	13.03	25.29	1.07	0	0.1	1.25	0.12	0.85	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	22.55	20.37	22.14	8.79	22.15	3.30	0.08	0.25	0.14	0.06	0.14	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	18.61	19.46	21.25	11.69	23.58	2.35	0.75	0	2.32	0	0	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	22.19	19.89	20.33	11.85	19.72	4.69	0	0.66	0	0	0.67	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	22.13	20.86	19.97	11.72	21.72	2.32	0	0.41	0.4	0.22	0	0.2	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	23.77	19.85	20.48	10.98	22.64	0.16	0	0	0.37	1.41	0.34	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	21.84	20.55	19.69	11.57	23.63	1.25	0.81	0	0	0.37	0.16	0	0.13
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	19.32	20.54	20.49	11.27	25.04	2.32	0	0	0.73	0.29	0	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	21	19.54	21.4	11.26	22.2	3.09	0	0.78	0	0.7	0	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	23.73	19.67	19.77	9.43	22.04	4.54	0	0	0.29	0	0.54	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	19.59	20.9	21.83	8.76	24.55	2.02	0	1.63	0	0.71	0	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	22.81	19.52	20.9	9.62	21.89	2.27	0	0.46	0.6	0.9	0.72	0.12	0.2
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	21.65	18.55	18.86	11.83	24.8	3.27	0	0.07	0	0.68	0.28	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	20.86	20.27	20.38	9.54	23.84	1.84	1.17	0	0.75	0.43	0.94	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	23.22	19.51	19.62	11.94	22.3	2.37	0.78	0	0	0	0.25	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	22.33	21.47	20.47	8.54	21.37	3.51	1.7	0	0	0.63	0	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	19.96	21.25	20	11.97	24.57	0.26	0	0	0.25	0.84	0.89	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	20.86	20.09	19.21	10.19	25.84	2.67	0	0	0	0.37	0.76	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	25.16	20.4	16.41	8.82	26.46	1.98	0	0	0	0.54	0.21	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	19.76	19.08	20.55	12.42	23.18	3.1	0	0.13	0	1.19	0.6	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	21.96	19.63	21.21	12.24	21.84	2.2	0	0	0.3	0.15	0.48	0	0
Eurogenes K13	South Regions	18.93	17.64	23.29	9.51	26.2	3.04	1.19	0	0.19	0	0	0	0
	South Regions Average	21.43	19.98	20.30	10.77	23.40	2.44	0.29	0.20	0.35	0.44	0.36	0.01	0.02
Eurogenes K13	Polog Region	23.79	20.9	21.19	11.33	15.48	3.67	1.95	0.33	0	0.45	0	0.86	0
Eurogenes K13	Polog Region	22.51	24.13	16.62	12.24	23.64	0	0	0	0.75	0.08	0	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Polog Region	21.69	21.74	19.39	13.15	20.11	2.26	0.89	0.53	0	0.24	0	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Polog Region	19.09	22.54	20.5	10.08	26.25	0.15	0	0.25	0.2	0.06	0.87	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Polog Region	23.72	20.31	19.98	13.23	17.63	3.69	0.48	0.66	0	0.24	0	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Polog Region	20.69	22.74	19.55	8.65	25.35	0.91	0	0	0.9	0.67	0.3	0	0.24
Eurogenes K13	Polog Region	23.43	22.84	22.8	9.93	19.35	0	0.77	0.88	0	0	0	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Polog Region	22.35	23.26	18.29	9.49	23.71	0.91	0.18	0	0.75	0.18	0.81	0	0.06
Eurogenes K13	Polog Region	20.54	22.38	18.4	10.38	21.89	4.34	0	0	0.17	1.16	0.74	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Polog Region	24.03	23.94	16.08	13.24	18.81	2.64	0	0	0.97	0	0.29	0	0
Eurogenes K13	Polog Region	24	22.94	21.52	11.21	16.36	2.9	0.84	0.23	0	0	0	0	0
	Polog Region Average	22.35	22.52	19.48	11.18	20.78	1.95	0.46	0.26	0.34	0.28	0.27	0.08	0.03
Eurogenes K13	Eastern Region	29.57	22.12	19.79	5.65	19.51	2.09	0.00	1.22	0.05	0.00	0.00	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Eastern Region	24.71	21.04	21.12	10.44	17.00	3.64	0.00	1.31	0.00	0.74	0.00	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Eastern Region	20.88	20.14	22.33	11.74	18.84	3.38	0.65	0.00	1.37	0.31	0.35	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Eastern Region	23.34	19.96	20.68	12.16	20.73	1.73	0.00	0.00	0.27	0.07	1.05	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Eastern Region	24.55	21.43	20.41	12.62	19.23	0.59	0.00	0.87	0.00	0.11	0.20	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Eastern Region	26.57	17.40	19.09	10.32	19.86	4.94	0.00	0.00	0.00	1.08	0.75	0.00	0.00
	Eastern Region Average	24.94	20.35	20.57	10.49	19.20	2.73	0.11	0.57	0.28	0.39	0.39	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Northeast&Skopje Regions	20.06	21.88	18.34	10.44	26.57	1.40	0.00	0.00	0.41	0.00	0.75	0.00	0.13
Eurogenes K13	Northeast&Skopje Regions	21.41	23.99	18.19	11.77	20.00	3.03	0.00	0.35	0.77	0.49	0.00	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Northeast&Skopje Regions	20.04	24.41	17.80	12.82	20.64	3.06	0.00	0.55	0.00	0.00	0.69	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Northeast&Skopje Regions	21.16	21.70	21.63	13.58	17.97	1.69	0.00	1.15	0.56	0.47	0.00	0.11	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Northeast&Skopje Regions	22.31	22.41	18.59	10.47	21.79	3.47	0.33	0.00	0.00	0.62	0.00	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Northeast&Skopje Regions	23.11	21.07	20.51	14.10	18.07	1.48	0.00	0.23	0.74	0.00	0.60	0.08	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Northeast&Skopje Regions	22.27	23.26	17.27	10.55	22.26	2.26	0.00	1.88	0.00	0.00	0.25	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Northeast&Skopje Regions	22.21	19.06	20.42	12.54	22.54	3.00	0.00	0.07	0.00	0.16	0.00	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Northeast&Skopje Regions	22.70	21.87	19.62	9.74	21.55	2.40	0.00	0.00	0.91	0.31	0.61	0.00	0.30
Eurogenes K13	Northeast&Skopje Regions	23.82	24.67	17.84	10.37	19.08	2.85	0.12	0.00	0.53	0.65	0.08	0.00	0.00
Eurogenes K13	Northeast&Skopje Regions	22.43	21.21	20.26	11.61	20.70	2.01	0.53	0.00	0.00	0.25	0.99	0.00	0.00
	Northeast Region Average	21.96	22.32	19.13	11.64	21.02	2.42	0.09	0.38	0.36	0.27	0.36	0.02	0.04
Eurogenes K13	AVERAGE_ALL	22.92	20.87	20.03	11.12	21.02	2.31	0.24	0.36	0.35	0.38	0.35	0.03	0.02

[Leto]

Thanks Johnny, great job! We will delete the old Macedonian average.

[paradox]

Thanks Johnny, great job! We will delete the old Macedonian average.

Why? there's nothing wrong with the old average on Dodecad.

[Leto]

Why? there's nothing wrong with the old average on Dodecad.

So you think Johnny is trolling. I don't think what he's doing fits the definition of "trolling" though.

Old average	New average
North_European 33.45	North_European 30.02
Atlantic_Med 27.71	Atlantic_Med 28.64
Caucasus 25.41	Caucasus 27.11
Southwest_Asian 6.35	Southwest_Asian 7.23
Gedrosia 5.44	Gedrosia 5.09

The new one is considerably more Southern, in particular its North European (primary Northeast Euro marker) is 3+ percent lower than Johnny's. In fact if you look at the new regional averages, none of the regions is above 31%. I don't know which one is more accurate, to be honest.

[Coolguy1]

Johnny, can you please post all the kits you have from northern Greece?

[Lucas]

So you think Johnny is trolling. I don't think what he's doing fits the definition of "trolling" though.


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The new one is considerably more Southern, in particular its North European (primary Northeast Euro marker) is 3+ percent lower than Johnny's. In fact if you look at the new regional averages, none of the regions is above 31%. I don't know which one is more accurate, to be honest.

It's impossible to troll when someone created such a long thread full of real kits, which could be checked by everyone. I still don't understand those who think JohhnyP has agenda. If he will post only averages yes it could be, but not in such a detailed thread with hundred kits, please.

[Peterski]

Johnny do you have any Mijak kits? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mijaks

[Ion Basescul]

We don't deserve Johnny.

[RogueState]

So they were right since the beginning, Macedonians and Albanians are just the same hehe

[paradox]

It's impossible to troll when someone created such a long thread full of real kits, which could be checked by everyone. I still don't understand those who think JohhnyP has agenda. If he will post only averages yes it could be, but not in such a detailed thread with hundred kits, please.

With these new averages my father doesnt get a Macedonian reference in his population list until number 17. Something is very very wrong here. I'm referring to his k13 averages .