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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    She is mixed race, apparently half Uzbek and half Russian. But she does look like a Volga Tatar or an "Uralic" person.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sora View Post
    I assur she is either "1/2 Uzbek + 1/4 Tatar + 1/4 Russian" or "1/2 Uzbek + 1/2 something Uralic". Because she has (a bit) less European than average Uzbek+Russian mix and is more Siberian than East Asian, while Uzbeks have 2x more East Asian than Siberian. The previous Russian adoptee from US(apparently Uzbek+Russian) had more East Asian than Siberian also.

    According to my same friend, Nadia stated her bio mom had Tatar & Kazakh roots beside Russian
    Is an Uyghur-Russian mix possible? This amount of SE-Asia is very atypical, the Turkic part would be around 8/9% SE-Asian which is only common among Uyghurs. Or maybe this person is partly Kazakh/Kirgiz/Mongol or maybe even Dungan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sora View Post
    I assur she is either "1/2 Uzbek + 1/4 Tatar + 1/4 Russian" or "1/2 Uzbek + 1/2 something Uralic". Because she has (a bit) less European than average Uzbek+Russian mix and is more Siberian than East Asian, while Uzbeks have 2x more East Asian than Siberian. The previous Russian adoptee from US(apparently Uzbek+Russian) had more East Asian than Siberian also.

    According to my same friend, Nadia stated her bio mom had Tatar & Kazakh roots beside Russian
    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    Is an Uyghur-Russian mix possible? This amount of SE-Asia is very atypical, the Turkic part would be around 8/9% SE-Asian which is only common among Uyghurs. Or maybe this person is partly Kazakh/Kirgiz/Mongol or maybe even Dungan?
    No one will know for sure. Some of the East Asian may have gone into the Southeast Asian. I've seen full Russians with 2+ percent SEA. Her total Mongoloid is normal for that type of mix, Uzbeks can be as low as 20% and as high as 50% East Eurasian. Russians can also vary from barely 2% to well over 10%, so it really depends on where her biological parents and grandparents were from. She does have a Bashkir match which I already know. I normally don't post Tatars and Bashkirs here because they're neither West nor Central Asian strictly speaking.

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    Pakistan is South Asia but adding some Pashtun type of people are okay, I guess. This one is interesting
    This MAY be her, not verified though

    Gedrosia 38.05 Pct
    Siberian 0.73 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 1.14 Pct
    North_European 17.17 Pct
    South_Asian 20.68 Pct
    East_African 0.13 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 4.19 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 17.92 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    Distance to: Iqra
    3.18774215 Pashtun_Tarkalani
    3.95445319 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
    5.04908903 Kho
    5.08539084 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
    5.58906969 Nuristani
    5.60519402 Kalash
    5.87029812 Pashtun_Yusafzai
    6.32751926 Pashtun_Kandahar
    9.79580012 Tajik_Kabul
    11.32461037 Sindhi_Hindu

    Target: Iqra
    Distance: 1.6175% / 1.61754921 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    87.2 Nuristani
    5.3 Kuwait2
    2.9 Pashtun_Tarkalani
    2.7 Latvian
    1.9 Tabasaran

    Target: Iqra
    Distance: 2.3297% / 2.32973592 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    66.8 Pashtun_Tarkalani
    26.8 Nuristani
    6.4 Tabasaran

    Her ancestry seems to have remained practically untouched by Turco-Mongols

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    Hui(Chinese Muslim) from Xinjiang/East Turkestan (apparently 1/2 Chinese + 1/4 Kazakh + 1/4 Uyghur)

    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...ritrean_trace/

    Gedrosia: 7.59
    Siberian: 14.64
    NW_African: 0
    SE_Asian: 21.28
    Atlantic_Med: 1.21
    North_European: 7.14
    South_Asian: 0.8
    East_African: 0
    SW_Asian: 0
    East_Asian: 44.74
    Caucasus: 2.6
    SSA: 0

    Distance to: HuiXinjiangMom
    17.78240141 Dungan
    20.37882479 Nepali_Gurung
    22.19826119 Tibetan
    22.48590447 Nepali_Kirant_Rai
    23.99184653 Kyrgyz
    23.99576838 Mongol_Khalkh
    24.00394759 Kyrgyz_Pamir
    24.27107744 Tu
    25.36240131 Naxi
    25.80209875 Yizu
    25.85475778 Mongol_Uuld
    26.53618661 Uyghur
    26.58228922 Kazakh
    26.73367726 Kalmyk
    26.80836810 Han_north
    27.96476354 Xibo
    28.92223020 Burmanese
    29.12301839 Han_central
    29.15920095 Hazara
    29.44607614 Hezhen
    29.44974533 Karakalpak
    29.68688936 Garo
    30.20969877 Nogai_Stavropol
    30.37119853 Nogai_Astrakhan
    30.56179641 Tujia

    Target: HuiXinjiangMom
    Distance: 1.9167% / 1.91673037 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    36.8 Dungan
    31.7 Kyrgyz_Pamir
    17.6 Han_south
    11.9 Altaian_Chelkan
    2.0 ZHUANG

    Target: HuiXinjiangMom
    Distance: 2.3057% / 2.30574743 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    48.6 Kyrgyz_Pamir
    27.6 Dungan
    23.8 Han_south
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    I don't if has been posted here:

    50% (p) Iranian Azerbaijani from Hamedan 50% (m) Azerbaijani from Baku

    Gedrosia: 23.96
    Siberian: 2.01
    NW_African: 0.37
    SE_Asian: 0.34
    Atlantic_Med: 7.07
    North_European: 9.12
    South Asian: 4.77
    East_African: 0.00
    SW_Asian: 11.72
    East_Asian: 2.46
    Caucasus: 38.17
    SSA: 0.00

    Distance to: Azeri_Hamedan/Baku
    3.58770121 Azerbaijani_Iran
    4.04226422 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
    4.52414633 Azerbaijani
    4.85943412 Iran_Central
    4.86053495 Kurd_Kurmanji
    5.10786648 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    5.39308817 Yazidi_Kurd
    5.47056670 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    5.64756585 Kurd_Sorani
    6.38047020 Azerbaijani_Northwest
    6.71025335 Turkmen_Iraq
    6.85824322 Iranian_Fars
    7.07199406 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    7.09279917 Kurd_Feyli
    7.43682728 Iranian_Lur
    7.92899741 Turk_Southeast
    8.01970698 Iranian_Khorasan
    8.75054855 Iranian_Kerman
    9.83521225 Udi_Azerbaijan
    10.76788280 Turk_Central_East
    11.03167258 Turk_South
    11.04666465 Turk_East
    11.20721643 Iranian_Mazandaran
    12.12254099 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    12.26681703 Iraqi_Baghdad

    Target: Azeri_Hamedan/Baku
    Distance: 0.9198% / 0.91979223 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    40.3 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    30.6 Iranian_Khorasan
    23.2 Turk_Southeast
    5.9 Kumyk


    Father (Azeri from Hamedan):


    Interesting because there isn't any other Azeri result from this far south:

    Gedrosia: 25.06
    Siberian: 3.01
    NW_African: 0.00
    SE_Asian: 1.49
    Atlantic_Med: 8.99
    North_European: 6.98
    South Asian: 5.54
    East_African: 0.00
    SW_Asian: 9.87
    East_Asian: 2.52
    Caucasus: 35.52
    SSA: 1.02

    Distance to: Azeri_Hamedan
    5.62307745 Iran_Central
    6.32166908 Azerbaijani_Iran
    6.49622968 Iranian_Khorasan
    6.85311608 Iranian_Fars
    6.88692239 Yazidi_Kurd
    6.94332773 Azerbaijani
    7.20467904 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
    7.41586812 Kurd_Kurmanji
    7.42948854 Azerbaijani_Northwest
    7.71657955 Iranian_Kerman
    7.79374108 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    7.82925922 Kurd_Sorani
    8.21290448 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    8.46452007 Iranian_Lur
    8.68057602 Turkmen_Iraq
    9.13794835 Kurd_Feyli
    9.56040271 Turk_Southeast
    9.89805031 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    11.92404294 Iranian_Mazandaran
    12.04406493 Turk_South
    12.27979642 Turk_Central_East
    12.87238517 Turkmen_TM
    12.98082817 Udi_Azerbaijan
    13.23086921 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    13.42929261 Turk_Central_West

    Target: Azeri_Hamedan
    Distance: 3.0018% / 3.00182213 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    50.7 Iranian_Khorasan
    21.6 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    21.4 Yazidi_Kurd
    6.3 Iran_Central


    Mother (Azeri from Baku with partly Tat ancestry):

    Gedrosia: 21.92
    Siberian: 2.33
    NW_African: 0.26
    SE_Asian: 0.56
    Atlantic_Med: 7.20
    North_European: 9.81
    South Asian: 3.10
    East_African: 0.30
    SW_Asian: 12.09
    East_Asian: 1.36
    Caucasus: 41.08
    SSA: 0.00

    Distance to: Azeri_Baku
    2.62360439 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
    3.41531843 Azerbaijani_Iran
    3.86899212 Azerbaijani_Turkey
    4.19200429 Azerbaijani
    4.73408914 Kurd_Kurmanji
    4.77682949 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    6.26977671 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
    6.27705345 Udi_Azerbaijan
    6.48661699 Azerbaijani_Northwest
    6.66132119 Yazidi_Kurd
    6.89557829 Turk_Southeast
    6.96115651 Turkmen_Iraq
    7.08955570 Kurd_Sorani
    7.61432860 Turk_East
    7.99229003 Iran_Central
    8.17715109 Kurd_Feyli
    8.79048918 Turk_Central_East
    8.96187480 Iranian_Lur
    9.94640639 Turk_South
    10.14393908 Iranian_Fars
    10.45300914 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    11.22800071 Turk_Central_West
    11.86279057 Iraqi_Baghdad
    11.96625255 Armenian_East
    12.00480321 Iranian_Khorasan

    Target: Azeri_Baku
    Distance: 1.4523% / 1.45229003 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    50.5 Talysh_Azerbaijan
    28.2 Turk_Southeast
    14.2 Kumyk
    7.1 Udi_Azerbaijan
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    50% (p) Iranian Azerbaijani from Hamedan 50% (m) Azerbaijani from Baku
    Is it me or is there a duplicate? The result seems to be identical to that of his/her mother's.

    Gedrosia: 25.06
    Siberian: 3.01
    NW_African: 0.00
    SE_Asian: 1.49
    Atlantic_Med: 8.99
    North_European: 6.98
    South Asian: 5.54
    East_African: 0.00
    SW_Asian: 9.87
    East_Asian: 2.52
    Caucasus: 35.52
    SSA: 1.02
    These numbers are unusual, especially South Asia. I assume that is why this person matches first with the central Iranians rather than Azerbaijanis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post
    Is it me or is there a duplicate? The result seems to be identical to that of his/her mother's.


    These numbers are unusual, especially South Asia. I assume that is why this person matches first with the central Iranians rather than Azerbaijanis.
    You are right. My mistake. I edited the mother's result now.

    Yeah he's very southern (somewhat could be expected because of his region). Although he also is the most turkic out of the three. Also interestingly low SW_Asian for his region (my father has low too, might be common among Azeris from this area Zanjan/Hamedan etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Also interestingly low SW_Asian for his region
    Noticed that too. Very interesting, especially taking into account that he is from Iran.

    (my father has low too, might be common among Azeris from this area Zanjan/Hamedan etc.)
    Yeah, but if I remember correctly, your father also has a fairly decent NE too, which is on the very high end for Iran.

    Does this person have any tribal affiliation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Archer View Post

    Does this person have any tribal affiliation?

    No but on Anthrogenica he mentioned that among his father's local lore they came from Anatolia in the 1600s. So I'm assuming they are some Qizilbash tribe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    I don't if has been posted here:

    50% (p) Iranian Azerbaijani from Hamedan 50% (m) Azerbaijani from Baku

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    Gedrosia 21.09 Pct
    Siberian 2.98 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 1.04 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 5.8 Pct
    North_European 9.07 Pct
    South_Asian 4.34 Pct
    East_African 0.23 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 13.66 Pct
    East_Asian 2 Pct
    Caucasus 39.54 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.23 Pct

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