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Thread: Map of Europe showing WHG, Baltic HG, Yamnaya and Neolithic ancestry

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    something like this...

    So it seems most archaic West Eurasian groups went extinct and there was a bottleneck from which the WHGs came out victorious until the EEFs took them over in numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    So it seems most archaic West Eurasian groups went extinct and there was a bottleneck from which the WHGs came out victorious until the EEFs took them over in numbers.
    exactly. but the Sunghir/Kostenki cluster also survived, trough ANE, which ended up being the most succesful and widespread stone age population.

    70% Sunghir/Kostenki + 30% East Eurasian -> ANE

    70% ANE + 30% UHG -> EHG
    30% ANE + 70% Dzudzuana -> CHG
    50% ANE + 50% something similar to Dzudzuana in Iran -> Iran Mesolithic
    50% ANE + 50% East Eurasian -> Amerindians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    So it seems most archaic West Eurasian groups went extinct and there was a bottleneck from which the WHGs came out victorious until the EEFs took them over in numbers.
    What is unknown Hunter gatherer? And why does it make 50 percent of Natufian dna? Was it spread throughout Middle East or was it a European group that back migrated into Middle East?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG View Post
    What is unknown Hunter gatherer?
    it's something related to WHG.

    Quote Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG View Post
    And why does it make 50 percent of Natufian dna? Was it spread throughout Middle East or was it a European group that back migrated into Middle East?
    I think currently option 1 is more popular. But we don't have enough samples to say for certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    it's something related to WHG.


    I think currently option 1 is more popular. But we don't have enough samples to say for certain.


    Is this component also present in Anatolian Hunter Gatherers? What can they be modelled as?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG View Post
    Is this component also present in Anatolian Hunter Gatherers? What can they be modelled as?
    Yes, Anatolian HG and Dzudzuana are identical. Later CHG is Dzudzuana+ANE.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG View Post
    Is this component also present in Anatolian Hunter Gatherers? What can they be modelled as?
    AHG were similar to Dzudzuana, so around 50/50 UHG/Basal.

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    In my case it's exactly like G25's default run:

    Target: Gil_Vicente
    Distance: 4.0115% / 0.04011473
    52.0 TUR_Barcin_N
    32.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    10.4 WHG
    3.4 MAR_Taforalt
    1.6 Yoruba


    1] "distance%=4.0205"
    Anatolia_Barcin_N,52.2
    Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,32.4
    WHG,10.4
    MAR_Iberomaurusian,3.2
    Yoruba,1.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damião de Góis View Post
    In my case it's exactly like G25's default run:

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    Excepting that 0.4% Ju_hoan_North of my father, that formerly was part of his Ibero-Maurissian.

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