Post Eurogenes K13 - Fresh thread -

[Blemoir]

For sure you have some substantial minor amazigh moorish ancestry

Yes, for sure I have. It's from my portuguese and south italian ancestors, since they intermixed with north africans from what I understand. I'm not aware of any ancestor that came directly from North Africa.

[Leto]

Yes, for sure I have. It's from my portuguese and south italian ancestors, since they intermixed with north africans from what I understand. I'm not aware of any ancestor that came directly from North Africa.

South Italians score 0-2% NE African as far as I know. The same amount Ashkenazi Jews would score.

[Blemoir]

South Italians score 0-2% NE African as far as I know. The same amount Ashkenazi Jews would score.

I thought they scored higher. So my NA admixture is from the portuguese mostly.

[Leto]

Bump for any potential new members

[J.S.]

Distance to: J.S.(French)
6.52469923 French
7.60161167 France_south
8.24820587 France_Central
8.91601368 Southwest_French
9.46554277 Spanish_Cantabria
9.71231177 Spanish_Cataluna
10.38442102 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
10.87896594 France_north-east
11.25215535 Spanish_Galicia
11.28945969 Spanish_Aragon
11.37175888 Pennsylvania_Dutch
11.50466862 Spanish
11.62449139 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
11.97215937 Italian_Aosta_Valley
12.00908823 France_south-west
12.15744628 Spanish_Valencia
12.19465457 Belgian
12.20428204 Portuguese
12.30683956 France_north-west
12.57774622 Spanish_Murcia
12.61691325 Swiss_German2
12.66334079 Flemish
12.85152131 Dutch_South
13.32647740 German_South
13.44856870 Swiss_German


Target: J.S.(French)
Distance: 2.1378% / 2.13778665
35.3 French_Basque
35.3 Swedish
22.7 Spanish_Aragon
3.3 Swiss_Italian
3.3 Yemenite_Jewish
0.1 Papuan


Target: J.S.(French)
Distance: 2.6618% / 2.66181095 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.9 Dutch_Central
26.6 Spanish_Aragon
22.7 France_south-west
13.8 Southwest_French

[GalenStark]

This is the K13 for kit SRS8752864 from the Turkish study of 600+ samples being added to yfull. He is likely Pomak/Balkan Turk judging by his results. Sample is under analysis on yfull. His Y-DNA is R-L1029>Y39054. There is another Balkan Turk/Pomak in this branch with origin from Razgrad as well(not on yfull).

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y44160/

SRS8752864,20.46,23.81,15.94,12.25,20.01,2.54,0,0, 3.67,0.77,0.56,0,0


Target: SRS8752864
Distance: 1.1255% / 1.12548512 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.7 Bulgaria_Northcentral
24.0 Pomak_Greece
23.9 Bulgaria_Northeastern
9.3 Turk_Makedonya
4.1 Selkup

[J.S.]

Distance to: J.S.(French)
6.52469923 French
7.60161167 France_south
8.24820587 France_Central
8.91601368 Southwest_French
9.46554277 Spanish_Cantabria
9.71231177 Spanish_Cataluna
10.38442102 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
10.87896594 France_north-east
11.25215535 Spanish_Galicia
11.28945969 Spanish_Aragon
11.37175888 Pennsylvania_Dutch
11.50466862 Spanish
11.62449139 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
11.97215937 Italian_Aosta_Valley
12.00908823 France_south-west
12.15744628 Spanish_Valencia
12.19465457 Belgian
12.20428204 Portuguese
12.30683956 France_north-west
12.57774622 Spanish_Murcia
12.61691325 Swiss_German2
12.66334079 Flemish
12.85152131 Dutch_South
13.32647740 German_South
13.44856870 Swiss_German


Target: J.S.(French)
Distance: 2.1378% / 2.13778665
35.3 French_Basque
35.3 Swedish
22.7 Spanish_Aragon
3.3 Swiss_Italian
3.3 Yemenite_Jewish
0.1 Papuan


Target: J.S.(French)
Distance: 2.6618% / 2.66181095 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.9 Dutch_Central
26.6 Spanish_Aragon
22.7 France_south-west
13.8 Southwest_French

Is Dutch-Central some kind of Belgian-Walloon-like cluster? By the way, there is neither Belgian/Walloon coordinate nor French-North in the K13 spreadsheet.

[Petalpusher]

Is Dutch-Central some kind of Belgian-Walloon-like cluster? By the way, there is neither Belgian/Walloon coordinate nor French-North in the K13 spreadsheet.

Those have been added to the original spreadsheet by ...who knows


Dutch_Central looks very close to North Dutch, barely 1% difference on the main components:

Dutch_Central,49.50,25.39,11.62,4.77,3.79,1.37,0.9 5,0.45,0.46,0.65,0.47,0.24,0.27
Dutch_North,50.24,26.40,10.76,4.82,3.25,0.77,0.88, 0.36,0.55,0.70,0.49,0.31,0.42

The thing is you are not 1/4 Aragon, so it has to compensate with something quite northern. Either Swede or North Dutch like, but you might have something SW/Basque like overall.

Similar effect with my mom, she s not almost half Basque and neither half Norwegian/Pole or what have you.


Target: Petalpusher_mother(French)
Distance: 1.3961% / 1.39611400
42.7 French_Basque
24.8 Norwegian
18.2 South_Polish
5.7 Georgian_imereti
5.3 Greek_Northern-Thrace
3.3 Southwest_Finnish

It's really mathematical randomess how much these models are gonna polarize themselves or not, like in regular oracles.

[J.S.]

It's really mathematical randomess how much these models are gonna polarize themselves or not, like in regular oracles.

I think so too but, i do not have the mathematical basics to explain/understand it as for PCA and distance discrepancies.

[Sharpshooter]

Born and raised in England, parents are both Irish:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.63
2 Baltic 26
3 West_Med 12.78
4 West_Asian 8.26
5 East_Med 3.14
6 Red_Sea 1.55
7 South_Asian 0.47
8 Amerindian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_German 3.16
2 North_Dutch 3.71
3 Danish 4.2
4 Orcadian 4.92
5 Irish 5.1
6 Southeast_English 5.47
7 Norwegian 5.53
8 West_Scottish 6.12
9 Southwest_English 6.33
10 South_Dutch 6.58
11 Swedish 6.62
12 West_German 7.29
13 Austrian 10.76
14 East_German 11.16
15 North_Swedish 12.23
16 French 12.67
17 Hungarian 15.47
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.73
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.31
20 Croatian 20.65

Irish ranks 5th. And I'm closer to Danish and other germanic groups for some reason.