Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

**Sterling Archer** · 05-30-2021, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

Azerbaijani (100%) of Mughal originfrom Aşağı Tala, Zaqatala:

Y-DNA: G2

**Leto** · 05-31-2021, 05:14 PM

A Syrian couple from Idlib living in Toronto as refugees. They are also relatives (305 cM shared) which kinda sucks but is not unusual among Muslims. Here is an article about them with a video featuring their three children. They don't look very swarthy. Must be due to the elevated North_European
Syrian families in Toronto eager for start of school year

Gedrosia 19.77 Pct
Siberian 1.93 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.27 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.55 Pct
North_European 11.25 Pct
South_Asian 1.1 Pct
East_African 0.83 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.89 Pct
East_Asian 3.65 Pct
Caucasus 38.76 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Khaled
4.62446754 Azerbaijani_Republic
5.12728973 Turk_Southeast
5.24153603 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.51416358 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.30322531 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.65157500 Turkmen_Iraq
7.73168804 Turk_Central_East
8.03272681 Turk_South
8.18942000 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.97368375 Talysh_Azerbaijan

Distance to: Khaled
2.65399890 82.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 17.80% Bedouin
2.67790500 84.60% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 15.40% Yemenite_Mahra
2.84205496 86.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 13.60% Kuwait2
2.92110058 84.20% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 15.80% Saudi
2.99927586 82.40% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 17.60% Kuwait1
3.15377261 57.00% Iraqi_Baghdad + 43.00% Kumyk
3.28071924 67.00% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 33.00% Syrian_Muslim
3.33377709 93.80% Azerbaijani_Republic + 6.20% Kuwait2
3.42015335 52.00% Ingush + 48.00% Iraqi_Arab
3.45719413 93.00% Azerbaijani_Republic + 7.00% Saudi

Target: Khaled
Distance: 1.7857% / 1.78565356 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.4 Azerbaijani_Republic
25.1 Kumyk
11.8 Saudi
4.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.9 Turk_Southeast

Gedrosia 14.45 Pct
Siberian 0.63 Pct
Northwest_African 2.55 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.33 Pct
Atlantic_Med 14.84 Pct
North_European 5.43 Pct
South_Asian 0.67 Pct
East_African 2.14 Pct
Southwest_Asian 21.06 Pct
East_Asian-
Caucasus 37.89 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Iman
4.43833302 Lebanese_Muslim
6.22012058 Syrian_Muslim
6.48253037 Nusayri_Turkey
7.80139731 Palestinian
8.02960771 Iraqi_Baghdad
8.07699201 Lebanese_Christian
8.82870319 Jordanian_Muslim
9.40520069 Palestinian_Christian
9.51053101 Turk_Cyprus
9.75821705 Syrian_SW_Christian

Distance to: Iman
2.18560637 78.00% Syrian_SW_Christian + 22.00% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.32444850 78.80% Palestinian_Christian + 21.20% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.46331498 19.00% Pamiri_Rushan + 81.00% Syrian_SW_Christian
2.49360367 77.60% Jordanian_Christian + 22.40% Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
2.51838145 81.60% Palestinian_Christian + 18.40% Pamiri_Rushan
2.62411939 43.00% Greek_Rhodes + 57.00% Iraqi_Arab
2.67482682 18.80% Pamiri_Shughnan + 81.20% Syrian_SW_Christian
2.67931530 81.80% Palestinian_Christian + 18.20% Pamiri_Shughnan
2.88703386 43.00% Greek_Kos + 57.00% Iraqi_Arab
2.89793844 80.60% Jordanian_Christian + 19.40% Pamiri_Rushan

Target: Iman
Distance: 1.8265% / 1.82653218 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.2 Nusayri_Turkey
34.2 Syrian_Muslim
17.3 Iraqi_Baghdad
5.3 Irish

**Leto** · 05-31-2021, 05:35 PM

Iranian from Golestan

Gedrosia 32.95 Pct
Siberian 1.03 Pct
Northwest_African 0.92 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.77 Pct
Atlantic_Med 2.12 Pct
North_European 6.17 Pct
South_Asian 6.63 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.41 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 39.83 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.15 Pct

Distance to: Yasaman
2.55730327 Iranian_Mazandaran
8.63648655 Kurd_Feyli
9.17801177 Iranian_Lur
9.39987234 Iranian_Kerman
9.66253590 Iranian_Fars
9.99116610 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.06148597 Kurd_Sorani
11.13025157 Yazidi_Kurd
11.14040394 Iranian_Khorasan
12.57756336 Kurd_Kurmanji

Distance to: Yasaman
1.86387065 94.80% Iranian_Mazandaran + 5.20% Nuristani
1.88098500 96.80% Iranian_Mazandaran + 3.20% West_Bengal_Brahmin
1.88303445 95.00% Iranian_Mazandaran + 5.00% Kalash
1.88823549 96.00% Iranian_Mazandaran + 4.00% Kashmiri
1.89049108 95.60% Iranian_Mazandaran + 4.40% Punjabi_Khatri
1.89059635 95.40% Iranian_Mazandaran + 4.60% PAK_Kohistani
1.89238207 97.20% Iranian_Mazandaran + 2.80% Lambadi
1.89419703 95.40% Iranian_Mazandaran + 4.60% Sindhi_Hindu
1.89461606 95.00% Iranian_Mazandaran + 5.00% Kho
1.90375318 3.60% Gujarati_Brahmin + 96.40% Iranian_Mazandaran

Target: Yasaman
Distance: 1.4256% / 1.42557365 | ADC: 0.25x RC
86.2 Iranian_Mazandaran
7.8 Nuristani
6.0 Georgian_Svan

**Sterling Archer** · 05-31-2021, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

A Syrian couple from Idlib living in Toronto as refugees. They are also relatives (305 cM shared) which kinda sucks but is not unusual among Muslims. Here is an article about them with a video featuring their three children. They don't look very swarthy. Must be due to the elevated North_European

Gedrosia 19.77 Pct
Siberian 1.93 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.27 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.55 Pct
North_European 11.25 Pct
South_Asian 1.1 Pct
East_African 0.83 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.89 Pct
East_Asian 3.65 Pct
Caucasus 38.76 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

This one is so northern! Very unusual.
Can he be Turkmen or Kurd? They do occasionally score high NE.

**Impaler** · 05-31-2021, 06:36 PM

South_Ossetian from my GEDmatch list:

Distance to: South_Ossetian
3.32209271 Ossetian_South
5.58524843 Ossetian
5.75551040 Abkhazian
6.38425407 Adyghe
8.65964202 Karachay
8.82422235 Georgian_Svan
9.00274958 Circassian
9.25072430 Georgian
9.38248368 Georgian_Gurian
9.63582378 Ingush
9.86189130 Balkar
9.95906622 Abazin
10.34646316 Turk_Ahiska
11.28240666 Georgian_Mingrelian
11.60773880 Georgian_Imereti
12.01662182 Kabardin
12.07187227 Chechen
13.53282306 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.54374025 Kumyk
14.47314755 Georgian_Adjara

Target: South_Ossetian
Distance: 2.3190% / 2.31897382 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.3 Ossetian_South
17.9 Georgian_Mingrelian
4.2 Albanian
1.6 Algerian

Target: South_Ossetian
Distance: 2.6765% / 2.67651283 | ADC: 0.5x RC
73.2 Ossetian_South
21.1 Abkhazian
5.7 Greek_Fournoi

Distance to: South_Ossetian
2.77277893 6.00% Greek_Icaria + 94.00% Ossetian_South
2.77858031 94.80% Ossetian_South + 5.20% Sephardic_Jews
2.79424718 7.80% Greek_Cappadocia + 92.20% Ossetian_South
2.80231736 84.60% Georgian_Mingrelian + 15.40% Udmurt
2.82430237 4.60% Morocco_Jews + 95.40% Ossetian_South
2.83221913 16.40% Besermyan_Udmurtia + 83.60% Georgian_Mingrelian
2.83396649 6.20% Greek_Rhodes + 93.80% Ossetian_South
2.84401118 5.80% Greek_Cypriot + 94.20% Ossetian_South
2.84924034 9.20% Greek_Pontus + 90.80% Ossetian_South
2.86373007 30.60% Georgian_Mingrelian + 69.40% Ossetian
2.86890868 97.40% Ossetian_South + 2.60% Sardinian
2.87069971 6.00% Greek_Kos + 94.00% Ossetian_South
2.87983831 4.80% Italian_Jews + 95.20% Ossetian_South
2.88142186 89.80% Ossetian_South + 10.20% Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.90033502 4.80% Italian_Calabria + 95.20% Ossetian_South
2.91985157 5.40% Greek_Izmir + 94.60% Ossetian_South
2.92678749 10.00% Laz + 90.00% Ossetian_South
2.93059744 4.80% Moldovan_Jewish + 95.20% Ossetian_South
2.93427262 5.60% Greek_Crete + 94.40% Ossetian_South
2.93474080 4.60% Ashkenazi_Jews + 95.40% Ossetian_South

**Sterling Archer** · 05-31-2021, 06:58 PM

Azerbaijani with roots from Fizuli, Baku and Goychay. Relatively high East Asian admixture (7.8%).
Y-DNA: R1a-Z93

Gedrosia 18.35
Siberian 5.25
Northwest_African 1.6
Southeast_Asian 0
Atlantic_Med 7.2
North_European 9.05
South_Asian 0.61
East_African 0.22
Southwest_Asian 11.78
East_Asian 2.57
Caucasus 42.83
Sub_Saharan 0.55

Distance to: azerb
5.16336131 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.70673287 Azerbaijani_Republic
6.19745109 Turk_East
6.72159951 Turk_Central_East
6.86734301 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.98191951 Turk_Southeast
7.39343628 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.40264817 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.92220929 Turk_South
8.77489601 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.06555569 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.35373188 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.53162106 Turk_Central_West
9.64445437 Turkmen_Iraq
10.49458908 Armenian_East
10.92981244 Yazidi_Kurd
11.63411363 Kurd_Sorani
11.63591423 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.99851241 Turk_Ahiska
12.15517585 Turk_Southwest
12.19961885 Adyghe
12.23183551 Kurd_Feyli
12.28489316 Azeri_Jew
12.45037349 Abazin
12.53423312 Armenian_West

**Dr_Maul** · 05-31-2021, 10:11 PM

Samarkand Tajik, high Atlantic Med. Possible Jewish ancestry?
L-M27

Gedrosia 22.32 Pct
Siberian 5.61 Pct
Northwest_African 1.01 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.55 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.48 Pct
North_European 13.85 Pct
South_Asian 4.84 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.67 Pct
East_Asian 14.62 Pct
Caucasus 22.68 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.36 Pct

Distance to: PA3859277
6.71832568 Turkmen_Iran
8.86364485 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
9.41925156 Turkmen_TM
11.04787762 Tajik_Mountain
12.58610742 Uzbek
13.80670489 Tajik_Lowland
15.19184321 Tajik_Herat
15.44624874 Uzbeki
16.39937804 Turkmen_Afghanistan
17.59045764 Iranian_Khorasan
17.79577197 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
19.66693672 Turk_Northwest
19.90269831 Turk_Southwest
20.47473077 Nogai
20.50016097 Pamiri_Shughnan
20.77827952 Turk_South
20.81451897 Pamiri_Rushan
20.90634353 Tajik_Kabul
21.15591170 Iranian_Kerman
21.33658126 Azerbaijani_Iran
21.34324483 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
21.52460453 Pamiri_Ishkashim
21.83718388 Iranian_Fars
21.91029895 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
22.12788060 Turk_Southeast

Target: PA3859277
Distance: 1.4763% / 1.47634104 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.4 Tajik_Mountain
21.7 Turkmen_Iran
14.2 Iraqi_Arab
8.9 Japanese
0.8 Saudi

Target: PA3859277
Distance: 1.6494% / 1.64941059 | R3P
53.2 Pamiri_Shughnan
28.8 Iraqi_Jew
18.0 Xibo

**Leto** · 05-31-2021, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Samarkand Tajik, high Atlantic Med. Possible Jewish ancestry?
L-M27

Gedrosia 22.32 Pct
Siberian 5.61 Pct
Northwest_African 1.01 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.55 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.48 Pct
North_European 13.85 Pct
South_Asian 4.84 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.67 Pct
East_Asian 14.62 Pct
Caucasus 22.68 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.36 Pct

Distance to: PA3859277
6.71832568 Turkmen_Iran
8.86364485 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
9.41925156 Turkmen_TM
11.04787762 Tajik_Mountain
12.58610742 Uzbek
13.80670489 Tajik_Lowland
15.19184321 Tajik_Herat
15.44624874 Uzbeki
16.39937804 Turkmen_Afghanistan
17.59045764 Iranian_Khorasan
17.79577197 Yaghnobi_Tajikistan
19.66693672 Turk_Northwest
19.90269831 Turk_Southwest
20.47473077 Nogai
20.50016097 Pamiri_Shughnan
20.77827952 Turk_South
20.81451897 Pamiri_Rushan
20.90634353 Tajik_Kabul
21.15591170 Iranian_Kerman
21.33658126 Azerbaijani_Iran
21.34324483 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
21.52460453 Pamiri_Ishkashim
21.83718388 Iranian_Fars
21.91029895 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
22.12788060 Turk_Southeast

Target: PA3859277
Distance: 1.4763% / 1.47634104 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.4 Tajik_Mountain
21.7 Turkmen_Iran
14.2 Iraqi_Arab
8.9 Japanese
0.8 Saudi

Target: PA3859277
Distance: 1.6494% / 1.64941059 | R3P
53.2 Pamiri_Shughnan
28.8 Iraqi_Jew
18.0 Xibo

Do you mean Southwest Asian? Yes, it is. Also relatively low North European.
There were Arabs around Samarkand as late as 20-30 years ago (not sure about 2021 though), so that'd be more likely than Jewish.

**Dr_Maul** · 05-31-2021, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Do you mean Southwest Asian? Yes, it is. Also relatively low North European.
There were Arabs around Samarkand as late as 20-30 years ago (not sure about 2021 though), so that'd be more likely than Jewish.

I think both Atlantic and SW Asia are a bit atypical, as for that yeah you are probably right because Uzbekistan Jew would be more Iranian shifted compared to these which seem to be Arab/Levantine proper at least.

**Leto** · 05-31-2021, 10:50 PM

5-6% Atlantic Med is totally normal in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. It reduces as you go east and south of those countries (Kyrgyzstan and Afghanistan).