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    Quote Originally Posted by FroZzenMind View Post
    The source of the image is an abridged version of J. Philippe Rushton's book "Race, Evolution, and Behavior". Reasons why the gap between Asians and whites is so low might be that that many of the adopted Asian children were malnourished, or that the Asians included Southeast Asians (https://www.euvolution.com/library/R...n_Behavior.pdf):

    Chart 9 summarizes the results for Oriental children adopted into White middle-class homes. Korean and Vietnamese babies from poor backgrounds, many of whom were malnourished, were adopted by White American and Belgian families. When they grew up, they excelled in school. The IQs of the adopted Oriental children were 10 or more points higher than the national average for the country they grew up in. Trans-racial adoption does not increase or decrease IQ. The three-way pattern of race differences in IQ remains.

    From the full version of "Race, Evolution, and Behavior" (https://philipperushton.net/wp-conte...havior-ocr.pdf):

    In the second, Winick, Meyer, and Harris (1975) found 141 Korean children adopted as infants by American families exceeded American children in both IQ and achievement scores when they reached 10 years of age. Many of these Korean infants were malnourished and the interest of the investigators was on the possible effects of early malnutrition on later intelligence. When tested, those who had been severely malnourished as infants obtained a mean IQ of 102; a moderately well nourished group obtained a mean IQ of 106; and an adequately nourished group obtained a mean IQ of 112.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    The source of the image is an abridged version of J. Philippe Rushton's book "Race, Evolution, and Behavior". Reasons why the gap between Asians and whites is so low might be that that many of the adopted Asian children were malnourished, or that the Asians included Southeast Asians (https://www.euvolution.com/library/R...n_Behavior.pdf):

    Chart 9 summarizes the results for Oriental children adopted into White middle-class homes. Korean and Vietnamese babies from poor backgrounds, many of whom were malnourished, were adopted by White American and Belgian families. When they grew up, they excelled in school. The IQs of the adopted Oriental children were 10 or more points higher than the national average for the country they grew up in. Trans-racial adoption does not increase or decrease IQ. The three-way pattern of race differences in IQ remains.

    From the full version of "Race, Evolution, and Behavior" (https://philipperushton.net/wp-conte...havior-ocr.pdf):

    In the second, Winick, Meyer, and Harris (1975) found 141 Korean children adopted as infants by American families exceeded American children in both IQ and achievement scores when they reached 10 years of age. Many of these Korean infants were malnourished and the interest of the investigators was on the possible effects of early malnutrition on later intelligence. When tested, those who had been severely malnourished as infants obtained a mean IQ of 102; a moderately well nourished group obtained a mean IQ of 106; and an adequately nourished group obtained a mean IQ of 112.
    10 points higher? damn. On the iq tests they usually score around 5 points higher than western countries and i dont think theyre more malnourished than us and are racially more homogenic and pure.

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    Idk who has more potential, but at this point in time they do seem more intelligent. Whites try to destroy their own countries, that is enough to see who is more intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Not really, it's Central Asians like Kazakhs, who tend to have biggest brain-size. East-Asians have similar or a bit lower brain volumes to North Europeans, though southerners have samller.
    But we have almost exactlly equal IQ´s even though having a shitty education and higher kid malnourishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    East Asians have higher genotypic IQ than whites based on the polygenic scores calculated by Davide Piffer (https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ng_Recent_Data):



    Average weighted EDU3 scores of racial groups:

    1.39 - East Asian (Chinese, Bejing; Chinese, South; Japan)
    1.14 - Southeast Asian (Chinese Dai; Vietnam)
    1.10 - North Eurasian (Finland)
    0.59 - European (British, GB; Iberian, Spain; Toscani, Italy; Utah Whites)
    0.07 - South Asian (Bengali Bangladesh; Gujarati Indian, Tx; Indian Telegu, UK; Punjabi, Pakistan; Sri Lankan, UK)
    -0.24 - Latin American (Colombian; Mexican in L.A.; Peruvian, Lima; Puerto Rican)
    -1.33 - African (Afr. Car. Barbados; Esan, Nigeria; Gambian; Luhya, Kenya; Mende, Sierra Leone; US Blacks; Yoruba, Nigeria)
    Do we have data for Slavs (probably not)? I guess we are in North Eurasian category.

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    How do amerindians score in IQ test? Do peruvian or mayans have higher IQ than Plains people or Amazon Natives for example? Are there any studies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by michal3141 View Post
    Do we have data for Slavs (probably not)? I guess we are in North Eurasian category.
    He posted R code he used on his blog (https://topseudoscience.wordpress.com/): https://rpubs.com/Daxide/279148. The URL for downloading the external files required by the code doesn't work though.

    Those categories like "North Eurasian" are something that I made up. I though it was funny how disaggregating Finns from whites made us seem like a unique race with half an SD higher intelligence than whites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    East Asians have higher genotypic IQ than whites based on the polygenic scores calculated by Davide Piffer (https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ng_Recent_Data):



    Average weighted EDU3 scores of racial groups:

    1.39 - East Asian (Chinese, Bejing; Chinese, South; Japan)
    1.14 - Southeast Asian (Chinese Dai; Vietnam)
    1.10 - North Eurasian (Finland)
    0.59 - European (British, GB; Iberian, Spain; Toscani, Italy; Utah Whites)
    0.07 - South Asian (Bengali Bangladesh; Gujarati Indian, Tx; Indian Telegu, UK; Punjabi, Pakistan; Sri Lankan, UK)
    -0.24 - Latin American (Colombian; Mexican in L.A.; Peruvian, Lima; Puerto Rican)
    -1.33 - African (Afr. Car. Barbados; Esan, Nigeria; Gambian; Luhya, Kenya; Mende, Sierra Leone; US Blacks; Yoruba, Nigeria)
    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    East Asians have higher genotypic IQ than whites based on the polygenic scores calculated by Davide Piffer (https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ng_Recent_Data):



    Average weighted EDU3 scores of racial groups:

    1.39 - East Asian (Chinese, Bejing; Chinese, South; Japan)
    1.14 - Southeast Asian (Chinese Dai; Vietnam)
    1.10 - North Eurasian (Finland)
    0.59 - European (British, GB; Iberian, Spain; Toscani, Italy; Utah Whites)
    0.07 - South Asian (Bengali Bangladesh; Gujarati Indian, Tx; Indian Telegu, UK; Punjabi, Pakistan; Sri Lankan, UK)
    -0.24 - Latin American (Colombian; Mexican in L.A.; Peruvian, Lima; Puerto Rican)
    -1.33 - African (Afr. Car. Barbados; Esan, Nigeria; Gambian; Luhya, Kenya; Mende, Sierra Leone; US Blacks; Yoruba, Nigeria)
    East Asian IQ a hundred years ago was lower than now. I also remember Chinese immigrants in the USA scoring 90 on average or so. Not sure, but I think they were poor. The IQ of NW Europeans was way higher than now. According to one study measuring reflexes it was 14 points higher in Victorian times than now.

    Heredity of IQ increases with age (Wilson effect). Even though you might have certain genes as a child they will either activate or they won't as you grow up, change (mutate) or stay the same. Unless you think genes related to intelligence fall from sky.

    It is quite evident that East Asians push their kids hard to excell. I guess their hieroglyphs and adaptation to Western alphabet and English language is also quite stimulating.

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    No. They are much more disciplined and have a hard work ethic instilled in them at a young age.

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